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WaterInYourBath said: Marrk said: That's what i thought initially. Been reading some freaky shit though, no doubt about it, if he couldn't do these 50 dates fully, he was finished in the short-term, no way would he generate money (at least until his death as an old man) for SONY, but they're drowning in it now, free to bring out whatever they can lay their hands on, and make more money. The dodgy 911 call, did they place Mike on the floor when told to? the next to useless Doctor (cardioligist who doesn't know the basics?) who apparently didn't know where he was, what he was doing, no mobile phone? the amount of time between the call and MJ's time of death (didn't he live just a few miles from the Hospital?). Even if MJ was abusing crazy drugs it's not too much of a stretch to see a guy could possibly be paid off to administer more than he should, then go walkabout instead of watching Mike sleep as he was apparently paid by Mike to do. AEG saying Mike insited on Dr Murray over their recommendations, that could easily be a lie, The fact Mike passed his medical with flying colours, testimony from dancers and other folks saying Mike was stoked and insisting "i can do this", Dileo saying Mike said "It's our time again" while grinning from ear to ear. The mysterious return of John Branca just in time for the publication of the Will. People have every right to think something fishy happened if they want to IMO.  I thought the exact same thing when I heard he was back in the picture. Same with Dileo. But then I figured MJ wanted them back to help make the promotional aspect of the shows 100% successful, as they had before....?I remember how overjoyed Frank was when he landed a part in 'Goodfellas', not suggesting nothing, well maybe, just maybe, Frank was a fantasist who got to live his dream. I'd really hope not, i actually like him and wish Mike didn't fire him in '89, but the cigar chomper was getting too big for his boots i guess. Frank became a bit of a star himself, equated to Elvis's Colonel Tom Parker. Mike didn't like that apparently. Maybe a drugged MJ could be manipulated a lot easier than a coherent one. "Hey Mike, remember the good times?, we can bring that back!" Mike, "Oh! Great!" possibly. |
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the fans are even worse than the tabloid media in coming up with the sensationalism and conspiracy theories and speculation...  | |
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errant said: the fans are even worse than the tabloid media in coming up with the sensationalism and conspiracy theories and speculation...
 i don't know what to think to be honest with u. | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: TonyVanDam said: How about the possibility that MJJ was murder?!? How about Michael Jackson did this to himself? Spoiled star who can't take no for an answer to the point of owning that ridiculous medical sedative that he had no business or right having in his possession? why don't we wait until the toxicology reports come back. | |
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errant said: the fans are even worse than the tabloid media in coming up with the sensationalism and conspiracy theories and speculation...
I'm sorry if it seems OTT. I believe MJ ultimately was killed against his wishes. |
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Marrk said: errant said: the fans are even worse than the tabloid media in coming up with the sensationalism and conspiracy theories and speculation...
I'm sorry if it seems OTT. I believe MJ ultimately was killed against his wishes. while he may not have wanted to die, but by all accounts, he was doing everything he could to make it happen.  | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: babybugz said: it's true nobody cared about him when he was alive the only postive (not really one at all)is he's in no more pain out of his misery smh .people don't appreciate anything till it's gone
 and they would only appreciate him for thriller and act like that was the only album he came out with. It was absolutely disturbing how the media treated him...it was like a lynch mob. And you wonder why some mj fans are so defensive.FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video."  "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
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i see we're entering the anger phase of grief. | |
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WaterInYourBath said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: and they would only appreciate him for thriller and act like that was the only album he came out with. It was absolutely disturbing how the media treated him...it was like a lynch mob. And you wonder why some mj fans are so defensive.FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video." Bad was great, Dangerous was really good, but HIStory was average at best. Everything since has been substandard. HIStory sold what it did because it was coupled with Michael's first "Best Of" as an adult solo artist. Everyone I know bought it for the greatest hits portion. |
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WaterInYourBath said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: and they would only appreciate him for thriller and act like that was the only album he came out with. It was absolutely disturbing how the media treated him...it was like a lynch mob. And you wonder why some mj fans are so defensive.FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video."  i guess it would depend on how old the celebs are. his cohorts at Motown (real stars) remember all of Mike. Paris and Britney types only knew what? It's nice they're saying stuff and all, but beyond folk like Usher and JT who obviously were influnced by the man, only folk like Berry, Gladys, Stevie, Diana and Lionel etc hold any water with me.
Sophia, Liz and Liza too. |
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WaterInYourBath said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: and they would only appreciate him for thriller and act like that was the only album he came out with. It was absolutely disturbing how the media treated him...it was like a lynch mob. And you wonder why some mj fans are so defensive.FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video." They refuse to study because they still live in the stone ages. You have many kinds of fans: 1-Ones who believe that Mj was finsihed when he left the jacksons 2-Ones who believe that Mj was finihsed after thriller 3-Ones who believe that MJ was finsihed when he left Quincy Jones 4-Ones who believe that Everything post Bad is pure shit. 5-Ones who believe that Thriller is the only best Mj album 6-Ones who believe that Bad is not cohesive album and hasn't aged well 7-ones who believe that Thriller is the best music video and anything else is shit 8-Ones who believe that the History album is Pure shit 9-I despise all of the above. MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P مايكل جاكسون للأبد 1958 | |
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Se7en said: WaterInYourBath said: FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video." Bad was great, Dangerous was really good, but HIStory was average at best. Everything since has been substandard. HIStory sold what it did because it was coupled with Michael's first "Best Of" as an adult solo artist. Everyone I know bought it for the greatest hits portion. i love everything up to history. Off the wall, Dangerous and HIStory are my favorite albums of his. | |
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Se7en said: WaterInYourBath said: FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video." Bad was great, Dangerous was really good, but HIStory was average at best. Everything since has been substandard. HIStory sold what it did because it was coupled with Michael's first "Best Of" as an adult solo artist. Everyone I know bought it for the greatest hits portion. I heard that alot from the music press, but i've always called bullshit on it. Disc two was what folk were after. After all the shit that went down. his first new music since his troubles of '93, what were his thoughts? what was he saying? etc. We all owned the so-called 'greatest' hits already right?  [Edited 7/9/09 17:04pm] |
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Marrk said: Se7en said: Bad was great, Dangerous was really good, but HIStory was average at best. Everything since has been substandard. HIStory sold what it did because it was coupled with Michael's first "Best Of" as an adult solo artist. Everyone I know bought it for the greatest hits portion. I heard that alot from the music press, but i've always called bullshit on it. Disc two was what folk were after. After all the shit that went down. his first new music since his troubles of '93, what were his thoughts? what was he saying? etc. We all owned the so-called 'greatest' hits already right?
[Edited 7/9/09 17:04pm] "Stranger In Moscow” was Good enough to murder his entire catalogue, Lyrics and melody, everything about it, and that was after Thriller, Bad and Dangerous MICHAEL JACKSON
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Timmy84 said: markpeg said: I've always been confused about the birth order of the Jackson family. Is Jackie the oldest? Is Janet the youngest? Can anyone set me straight on this with a complete list from oldest to youngest? Sorry to be such a dweeb.
That's OK: 1950 - Rebbie (Maureen) 1951 - Jackie (Sigmund) 1953 - Tito (Tariano) 1954 - Jermaine 1956 - LaToya 1957 - Marlon, Brandon (twins; Brandon died of stillbirth) 1958 - Michael 1961 - Randy (Steven Randall) 1966 - Janet THANK YOU 
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seeingvoices12 said: WaterInYourBath said: FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video." They refuse to study because they still live in the stone ages. You have many kinds of fans: 1-Ones who believe that Mj was finsihed when he left the jacksons 2-Ones who believe that Mj was finihsed after thriller 3-Ones who believe that MJ was finsihed when he left Quincy Jones 4-Ones who believe that Everything post Bad is pure shit. 5-Ones who believe that Thriller is the only best Mj album 6-Ones who believe that Bad is not cohesive album and hasn't aged well 7-ones who believe that Thriller is the best music video and anything else is shit 8-Ones who believe that the History album is Pure shit 9-I despise all of the above.
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errant said: i see we're entering the anger phase of grief.
I've been angry. These motherfuckers with there adjectives for MJ. I just want to kill them. They hate it that he's loved so much!!! | |
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errant said: i see we're entering the anger phase of grief.
Guess so. | |
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errant said: Marrk said: I'm sorry if it seems OTT. I believe MJ ultimately was killed against his wishes. while he may not have wanted to die, but by all accounts, he was doing everything he could to make it happen. On CNN it was reported he was spending $48,000 a month on prescription drugs, he owed $100,000 in prescription drugs alone. Way back in 1993 Michael had an anestheologist on tour with him. Who the fuck does that, but an addict??? I give him credit he did try to get help, but not being able to trust anyone, or go outside and get a fresh of air had to be an agonizing world to live in. Now people are wanting to know where is the "King of Pop's body? The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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markpeg said: Timmy84 said: That's OK: 1950 - Rebbie (Maureen) 1951 - Jackie (Sigmund) 1953 - Tito (Tariano) 1954 - Jermaine 1956 - LaToya 1957 - Marlon, Brandon (twins; Brandon died of stillbirth) 1958 - Michael 1961 - Randy (Steven Randall) 1966 - Janet THANK YOU
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WaterInYourBath said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: and they would only appreciate him for thriller and act like that was the only album he came out with. It was absolutely disturbing how the media treated him...it was like a lynch mob. And you wonder why some mj fans are so defensive.FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video." and they say they were such big fans but they only heard 2 songs of his and saw "thriller." I was born in 1985 and I saw a ton of his music videos and heard a ton of his music when i was little. When i was little, I liked his later stuff to the earlier stuff. A lot of ppl who were alive when thriller came out were fans because that's what the media was hyping up...like timmy84 says the "thriller bandwagon". | |
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Chic35 said: errant said: while he may not have wanted to die, but by all accounts, he was doing everything he could to make it happen. On CNN it was reported he was spending $48,000 a month on prescription drugs, he owed $100,000 in prescription drugs alone. Way back in 1993 Michael had an anestheologist on tour with him. Who the fuck does that, but an addict??? I give him credit he did try to get help, but not being able to trust anyone, or go outside and get a fresh of air had to be an agonizing world to live in. Now people are wanting to know where is the "King of Pop's body? I heard that shit. | |
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lilgish said: errant said: i see we're entering the anger phase of grief.
I've been angry. These motherfuckers with there adjectives for MJ. I just want to kill them. They hate it that he's loved so much!!! For real, i told a guy at work who im 'friendly' with not to bother telling MJ jokes in front of me or i will punch him out at least, kept that shit to himself til i went on my break and i wasn't around, he knew i was serious too. I'd shank some motherfucka for disrespecting Mike to my face.  [Edited 7/9/09 17:21pm] |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: WaterInYourBath said: FOR.REAL. Have these people ever studied Bad, or HIStory? You ask any celebrity "fan" what they will remember about MJ, and all of them say "the Thriller video." and they say they were such big fans but they only heard 2 songs of his and saw "thriller." I was born in 1985 and I saw a ton of his music videos and heard a ton of his music when i was little. When i was little, I liked his later stuff to the earlier stuff. A lot of ppl who were alive when thriller came out were fans because that's what the media was hyping up...like timmy84 says the "thriller bandwagon". | |
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Timmy84 said: errant said: i see we're entering the anger phase of grief.
Guess so. after a while it has its own sense of comfort 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Timmy84 said: Guess so. after a while it has its own sense of comfort I see. Funny thing I was angry for the first two weeks. Now I'm mostly calm but the news stories are distressing, lol. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: TD3 said: I don't have the time to go through all the post to know/see if this info has been posted, but here's a link to dowload/print of the -
Michael Jackson Memorial (Booklet) Program. http://www.examiner.com/x...am-Booklet Follow the link(s) below MJ pic and it will download via PDF. Thanks so much for the link. Now that I see what little Blanket was looking at in this picture, my heart truly aches for those babies. 
 yeah, he sees his daddy on the cover...and he misses him. unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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does anyone find it weird that tommy mottola is now bragging along with song about MJ and basically cashing off of him while when MJ was alive, they wanted nothing to do with him. | |
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