midnightmover said:

You are aware that Prince's former band members had to sign confidentiality agreements, right? Prince had no such agreements with James Brown's musicians.
Besides, it's not like Brown's musicians went public with what they shared with Prince. They share this story with people they know.

I could give you specific names of these musicians, but this is a public message board, and they did not only see Prince do drugs, they did it with him. I won't put them in the position to make their names public. I've probably already said more than I should have.

In the end, it's up to you to believe it or to not believe it. But are you honestly trying to tell me that you believe Prince never touched drugs? Also, if you have ever been around people using this particular drug, one look at the footage may not be proof alone, but certainly strongly supports the experiences of Brown's musicians.

MrSoulpower said:

Nigger please! Those "agreements" were all broken years ago.

Calling me *igger doesn't exactly validate your point, or lack of.

Vanity specifically said one reason she and Prince spilt up was because she was doing drugs and he didn't approve. She had to make sure her next rock star boyfriend was a junkie so they could snort together.

I can imagine Prince saying that to her. He's a hypocrit, after all. A guy who lives by the formula "Don't do as I do, do as I say." Look, I'm not trying to suggest that Prince was a junkie. All I said is that Brown's bandmembers told me that they got high with him that day.

If JB's musicians told you this shit, has it ever ocurred to you they might be..... bullshitting?

No. Why. I've known a lot of those guys for years. I'm close friends with some of them, to this day. Their story always matched, and unless there was a conspiracy to create a matching story and spread it (not even in public), there is no reason to believe that they are not speaking the truth. Why would they all make up a story but never tell it in public? Makes no sense to me.

I speak from personal experience here.

You do? Do you know anyone in James Brown's band? If not, you don't speak from personal experience.

Drug addict musicians are the BIGGEST BULLSHITTERS UNDER THE SUN! Anyone that's ever been around a drug addict musician will tell you that.

Okay. Now you are breaking your own standards of truth here. Have you seen these musicians do drugs? Do you have quotes? If not, you have no proof, and you should - how did you say earlier - GTFOH. You asked me to deliver proof, but now you are calling people "drug addicts" without having proof yourself?

As for the performance, that was Prince's schtick at the time. Watch his guitar solo during "Head" on the Dirty Mind Tour. Watch the weird, almost satanic shit he's doing in some sections of the Purple Rain Tour. It's exactly the same kind of thing he's doing in that JB performance. Even in early interviews he would do this. It was an act. One black interviewer tells the story of how Prince was saying all this weird shit, dead serious, and the journalist laughed out loud so P told him to turn off the tape recorder. As soon as it was off P burst out laughing himself. Then they put the tape recorder back on and he went right back into his routine. He kept that as part of his act right up until the Parade Tour when he COMPLETELY DROPPED it. It's never been seen since.

I don't doubt that Prince had a schtick. In fact, he had lots of schticks. But he still snorted coke with members of the James Brown band that night. Look, I don't know you, and from what I understand, you were not backstage that night. There is absolutely now way that you know that this didn't happen. I hope you understand that I prefer to believe those who were there that night. Okay? You may choose not to believe it. Isn't that beautiful?

The only difference with the JB performance was..... CONTEXT. It's fine pulling that shit when you're playing your own music to your own audience. But doing that on JB's stage with his band and his audience? It just didn't fit. At all. The pole falling at the end just put the cap on it. P just didn't really know how to adapt to that scenario. I'll give him one thing though. To pull that shit on JB's stage took some balls and P has never lacked that!

Yeah, and you know all of that how? Because you crawled into Prince's brain that night? Gosh, I love it when people claim to know what people were thinking who they don't even know in real life. Bottom line, you weren't there that night, you have absolutely no idea what really went on. I wasn't there either, but I know people who were part of the whole thing. I'd take their word over yours any day, no offense.

Why would they all make up a story but never tell it in public? Makes no sense to me.

Okay. Now you are breaking your own standards of truth here. Have you seen these musicians do drugs? Do you have quotes?

Yeah, and you know all of that how? Because you crawled into Prince's brain that night? Gosh, I love it when people claim to know what people were thinking who they don't even know in real life. Bottom line, you weren't there that night, you have absolutely no idea what really went on. I wasn't there either, but I know people who were part of the whole thing. I'd take their word over yours any day, no offense.

MrSoulpower said:

Err, maybe because it would be exposed as bullshit if they went public with it? Duh!

Okay, they collectively make up a story, but chose to not go public with this, because it would be exposed as bullshit? By who, you?

I have quotes from YOU saying they got high with him. So let me be more precise. If you're telling the truth then they are at least drug takers, if not addicts. Either way, drug taking musicians love to bullshit. Believe me, I know all about that shit.

So, drug users love to bullshit. While people who don't do drugs don't love to bullshit. Let me ask you, how far removed from reality are you?


I know it because I've watched P's performances, interviews, acceptance speeches, etc. I'm not making this shit up. Go and look for yourself. Have you seen all the mad speeches he did on the PR tour? He had a schtick back then. Just look at his acceptance speeches from that time.

So you actually believe that Prince is the person he wants you to think that he is?

Bottom line. In thirty years there has never been a single shred of evidence that P is or was a drug user. If you want to believe he is then go ahead, but some proof would be nice. The fact is you don't have any.

There are hints. Prince himself even hinted that drug use was his reason for shelving the Black Album. But I agree, there isn't solid evidence. Prince was always very careful about it. Which indicates that he was never a true addict. But do you sincerely believe that Prince has never, ever tried any drug? A creative guy like him who constantly pushed himself to the edge? Are you serious?
But anyway, no need to speculate. You were not there that night at the James Brown show. People who were there spoke about what happened, and I see no reason why they should have made it up. Their stories match. And you have the choice not to believe it. It's that easy.

So you actually believe that Prince is the person he wants you to think that he is?

There are hints. Prince himself even hinted that drug use was his reason for shelving the Black Album. But I agree, there isn't solid evidence. Prince was always very careful about it. Which indicates that he was never a true addict. But do you sincerely believe that Prince has never, ever tried any drug? A creative guy like him who constantly pushed himself to the edge? Are you serious?