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Reply #1200 posted 07/08/09 1:42pm

danzakairos

I am really sad that Michael is gone, he seemed like a wonderful person. I think in hindsight he was accused of so many things untrue, but also a victim of his own bad choices at some points of his life. As he said in one of his many interviews "the truth will come out".

The world can be a very cruel place, and Michael brought a little kindness into it, during the short time that he was here. I missed him the moment I remember hearing on the news that he passed away. I loaded some of his songs unto my Ipod last night currently playing over and over again really loving the song, "Stranger in Moscow" this song along with the video really captures the emotion of what he was feelings most of his life.
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Reply #1201 posted 07/08/09 1:44pm

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danzakairos said:

I am really sad that Michael is gone, he seemed like a wonderful person. I think in hindsight he was accused of so many things untrue, but also a victim of his own bad choices at some points of his life. As he said in one of his many interviews "the truth will come out".

The world can be a very cruel place, and Michael brought a little kindness into it, during the short time that he was here. I missed him the moment I remember hearing on the news that he passed away. I loaded some of his songs unto my Ipod last night currently playing over and over again really loving the song, "Stranger in Moscow" this song along with the video really captures the emotion of what he was feelings most of his life.


SIM is so sad that I can't listen to it. Not at the moment..

How does it feel?
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Reply #1202 posted 07/08/09 1:49pm

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moussemaker said:

EBONY Commemorative Issue




Beautiful.

Everytime I think I'm O.K. with this and reality has set in, I start crying again. bawl
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Reply #1203 posted 07/08/09 1:51pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

jillybean said:

Did y'all see that Mariah apologized for her performance?? Can't find the link now, but it was on msn.com.

Yeah, she Twittered about it. She said she was overcome with grief and didnt perform as well as she wanted.

She's trying to cover up for her shitty vocals. Hell, some singers do their best when they feel emotional about something. Not saying she couldn't have been "overcome w/ grief" but what's her excuse for the other times she's sounded like ass?? hammer
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Reply #1204 posted 07/08/09 1:53pm

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Cosign Joe has never shown one sign of remorse for the way he treated Mike or any of those children.
In addition, despite what the many anti-religious people my think I bet Mike’s religion gave him what little comfort he had in life it was the verbal and physical abuse from his father that scared him and I doubt Joe was ever all that religious.

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Arnotts said:

I kind of feel sorry for Joe with the way some people were reacting to him at the memorial. I know people feel he was one of the biggest reasons Michael was so damaged, but its still his son and he obviously loved him. And I know most people will hate what I'm going to say but I actually think Katherine had just as much a negative effect on Michael as Joe did. I think the religion in which she insisted on raising him in helped elevate so many of his emotional problems. The lack of celebration and 'normal' events, the supressing of his sexuality, and the keeping quiet on abuse was what I felt were his main problems.

shrug The memorial was one moment in time. The bigger concern was how he treated his son in LIFE, which he didn't seem to give too much of a fuck about sadly. Some news show just showed that old clip of Joe saying, "I didn't know he got sick [at the sight/presence of me], regurgitated but he regurgitated all the way to the bank." neutral I'm paraphrasing, but that's the gist of what he said. He didn't seem to care about ANYTHING but the $ Mike could generate. So if he was treated funny @ the memorial, that's his own doing...



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Reply #1205 posted 07/08/09 1:56pm

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Evvy said:

scriptgirl said:

What is CNN bitching about now?

they got this fool Dr. Klein talkin about he aint the babies daddy. they sound so stupid- i guess he puttin it out there in the street that him and Debbie were screwin....


No the report I saw was bout mj's riddled body. Collapsed veins in both arms, bald, lily white skin, etc, etc. The report is by Randi something, some lady reporter, overall its pretty harsh.
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Reply #1206 posted 07/08/09 2:00pm

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lazycrockett said:

Evvy said:


they got this fool Dr. Klein talkin about he aint the babies daddy. they sound so stupid- i guess he puttin it out there in the street that him and Debbie were screwin....


No the report I saw was bout mj's riddled body. Collapsed veins in both arms, bald, lily white skin, etc, etc. The report is by Randi something, some lady reporter, overall its pretty harsh.


it's all speculation- hell I have track marks after leaving the ER because they could not get the iv right- and what dead perosn is not pale? hello- the blood is no longer circulating in the body.
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Reply #1207 posted 07/08/09 2:01pm

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Evvy said:

lazycrockett said:



No the report I saw was bout mj's riddled body. Collapsed veins in both arms, bald, lily white skin, etc, etc. The report is by Randi something, some lady reporter, overall its pretty harsh.


it's all speculation- hell I have track marks after leaving the ER because they could not get the iv right- and what dead perosn is not pale? hello- the blood is no longer circulating in the body.



I find this media craze about his dead body endlessly tasteless. But I haven given up.
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Reply #1208 posted 07/08/09 2:04pm

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Phishanga said:

Evvy said:



it's all speculation- hell I have track marks after leaving the ER because they could not get the iv right- and what dead perosn is not pale? hello- the blood is no longer circulating in the body.



I find this media craze about his dead body endlessly tasteless. But I haven given up.



it's disgusting- its like talkin about someone under their clothes- no respect.

it would be different if the news was factual information about why he passed away
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Reply #1209 posted 07/08/09 2:05pm

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bboy87 said:

it seems everyone is making fun of Darryl Phinnessee


OMG eek
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Reply #1210 posted 07/08/09 2:06pm

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Why the hell does the public need to know that condition of his dead body?? I am outraged that this information is being flung out into the public arena. Its disgusting!!!! mad

There is NO reason for it!
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Reply #1211 posted 07/08/09 2:06pm

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noimageatall said:

Someone said they thought Prince tweeted for the first time and all I found was this...although who knows if it is really him? shrug

http://twitter.com/Prince_Music

Whomever owns this Twitter account misspelled Michael's name.

nod And if it was Prince he would have said, "The world will miss U greatly." wink Although I never got the feeling that Prince is a great speller. boxed
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Reply #1212 posted 07/08/09 2:07pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

bboy87 said:

it seems everyone is making fun of Darryl Phinnessee


OMG eek

The more I look @ this, the funnier it gets lol I didn't even hear this mf sing falloff
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Reply #1213 posted 07/08/09 2:08pm

BoOTyLiCioUs

Evvy said:

Phishanga said:




I find this media craze about his dead body endlessly tasteless. But I haven given up.



it's disgusting- its like talkin about someone under their clothes- no respect.

it would be different if the news was factual information about why he passed away


like how big his dick was lol
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Reply #1214 posted 07/08/09 2:11pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Evvy said:




it's disgusting- its like talkin about someone under their clothes- no respect.

it would be different if the news was factual information about why he passed away


like how big his dick was lol

eek
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Reply #1215 posted 07/08/09 2:13pm

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CalhounSq said:

seeingvoices12 said:


OMG eek

The more I look @ this, the funnier it gets lol I didn't even hear this mf sing falloff


LOL.. lol

Sorry but he scares the hell out of me for some reason eek lol
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Reply #1216 posted 07/08/09 2:15pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

bboy87 said:

it seems everyone is making fun of Darryl Phinnessee


OMG eek


He looks like one of those guys that visited the electric chair too long just to feel its shocks and then just left the scene looking distorted. Look like he got the heebie jeebies and shit. lol
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Reply #1217 posted 07/08/09 2:19pm

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noimageatall said:

dreamfactory313 said:


Whomever owns this Twitter account misspelled Michael's name.

nod And if it was Prince he would have said, "The world will miss U greatly." wink Although I never got the feeling that Prince is a great speller. boxed



OMG! I was about to say that!

LOL! lol
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Reply #1218 posted 07/08/09 2:19pm

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lazycrockett said:

Evvy said:


they got this fool Dr. Klein talkin about he aint the babies daddy. they sound so stupid- i guess he puttin it out there in the street that him and Debbie were screwin....


No the report I saw was bout mj's riddled body. Collapsed veins in both arms, bald, lily white skin, etc, etc. The report is by Randi something, some lady reporter, overall its pretty harsh.

This was from last night. It wouldn't surprise me if he was bald due to the Pepsi incident. Some dude from Inside Edition said the DEA is involved and they don't get involved for "no reason". lol Yeah, right.
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Reply #1219 posted 07/08/09 2:23pm

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trueiopian said:

bboy87 said:

it seems everyone is making fun of Darryl Phinnessee



LMFAO! I was confused as hell when he started singing

There was an audible gasp in the room where I was watching when he took the stage. He looks ill.
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Reply #1220 posted 07/08/09 2:24pm

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midnightmover said:

harbars said:



Without a shadow of a doubt, the Bad Tour in US/Europe '88 is Michael at his live peak. All songs live (although some bg vocals are looped).

First leg of the bad tour (Japan and Australia) was the same show as Victory with a new band, no brothers and a couple new songs. Very good also, but not a touch on the second leg.

By the end of the Bad tour (he went back to Japan and a few rescheduled dates in the US) he began to use loops on Man In the Mirror and Smooth Criminal.

The Dangerous Tour in 1992 was also a great show. However many songs were entirely looped.

Of course the Jacksons tour of 81 was also outstanding, and the Victory tour in 84 was decent.

However no good video of the full Bad Tour 88 is available. Your best bet is the yokohama concert from 1987, or the Dangerous show in Buharest in 92.

Nope. The last two songs were mimed, and it stayed that way throughout the tour. It was only in the first 1987 leg of the tour that he sang completely live, but as you mentioned the show was just The Victory Tour with two new songs tacked on the end. Unfortunately that meant there never was a perfect Bad concert, since his voice was damaged by the time it really became The Bad Tour in 1988. Still, his performances were great.

The Way You Make Me Feel and Man In The Mirror were live in the first US dates of the Bad Tour, so was Smooth Criminal
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Reply #1221 posted 07/08/09 2:25pm

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Timmy84 said:

seeingvoices12 said:


OMG eek


He looks like one of those guys that visited the electric chair too long just to feel its shocks and then just left the scene looking distorted. Look like he got the heebie jeebies and shit. lol

OMG lol , Look at his eyes eek lol eek eek
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Reply #1222 posted 07/08/09 2:26pm

Serena

bboy87, do I remember you saying that MJ had recently been 'reborn'?

I wonder if he did know that something was seriously wrong. Especially if what you said is true along with the in-house doc, others being brought back into the fold and the Enquirer's prediction, it's all a little strange.

I've read conflicting reports about whether or not he had Lupus. I don't know much about the disease, but does it damage the immune system or cause organ damage? Then adding painkillers to his system would be even harder on his body.

But, if he did have Lupus, wouldn't that conflict with the 'he has no diseases and is perfectly healthy' mantra that Randy Phillips was spouting?
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Reply #1223 posted 07/08/09 2:28pm

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Evvy said:

lazycrockett said:



No the report I saw was bout mj's riddled body. Collapsed veins in both arms, bald, lily white skin, etc, etc. The report is by Randi something, some lady reporter, overall its pretty harsh.


it's all speculation- hell I have track marks after leaving the ER because they could not get the iv right- and what dead perosn is not pale? hello- the blood is no longer circulating in the body.


yes, at this point it's speculation. lapd issued a statement earlier that a lot of info was not coming from them. plus, wouldn't the initial autopsy have stated that there were needle tracks on his arms? i thought it said that the body showed no signs of trauma? (maybe that means something different, like if he had been beaten up or had some sort of injury.)

i have to say i'm puzzled. the doctor denies any wrongdoing, no intraveneous drug use witnessed by him. the other doc - mr. i'm not the father - says he too didn't notice anything amiss, although he was worried about past drug abuse. no one else around him noticed anything out of the ordinary, except perhaps his weight. yet he had tons of drugs in the house, apparently. my brother said he'd heard that there was an accidental overdose rider on the insurance policy taken out by aeg. if they were afraid of him overdosing, how did he get coverage? how could mj have passed a physical? i'm confused.

on edit: dileo mentioned that mj called him the night before and said he wasn't feeling well. what did mj mean by that? stomach? tingling or numbness in the arms, which usually portends a heart attack? plus wouldn't the live-in doc have noticed the track marks? it's just so crazy.
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Reply #1224 posted 07/08/09 2:28pm

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Reply #1225 posted 07/08/09 2:29pm

Timmy84

Serena said:

bboy87, do I remember you saying that MJ had recently been 'reborn'?

I wonder if he did know that something was seriously wrong. Especially if what you said is true along with the in-house doc, others being brought back into the fold and the Enquirer's prediction, it's all a little strange.

I've read conflicting reports about whether or not he had Lupus. I don't know much about the disease, but does it damage the immune system or cause organ damage? Then adding painkillers to his system would be even harder on his body.

But, if he did have Lupus, wouldn't that conflict with the 'he has no diseases and is perfectly healthy' mantra that Randy Phillips was spouting?


Can't answer for Jay but if he had lupus then it's no doubt that there was a conflict even though the lupus was still probably not the ultimate factor.
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Reply #1226 posted 07/08/09 2:31pm

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kibbles said:

Evvy said:



it's all speculation- hell I have track marks after leaving the ER because they could not get the iv right- and what dead perosn is not pale? hello- the blood is no longer circulating in the body.


yes, at this point it's speculation. lapd issued a statement earlier that a lot of info was not coming from them. plus, wouldn't the initial autopsy have stated that there were needle tracks on his arms? i thought it said that the body showed no signs of trauma? (maybe that means something different, like if he had been beaten up or had some sort of injury.)

i have to say i'm puzzled. the doctor denies any wrongdoing, no intraveneous drug use witnessed by him. the other doc - mr. i'm not the father - says he too didn't notice anything amiss, although he was worried about past drug abuse. no one else around him noticed anything out of the ordinary, except perhaps his weight. yet he had tons of drugs in the house, apparently. my brother said he'd heard that there was an accidental overdose rider on the insurance policy taken out by aeg. if they were afraid of him overdosing, how did he get coverage? how could mj have passed a physical? i'm confused.


Covering up probably. To be honest, they sound as if they're trying to avoid being investigated. Weren't there at least five search warrants on some of MJ's past doctors?
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Reply #1227 posted 07/08/09 2:33pm

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Evvy said:

lazycrockett said:



No the report I saw was bout mj's riddled body. Collapsed veins in both arms, bald, lily white skin, etc, etc. The report is by Randi something, some lady reporter, overall its pretty harsh.


it's all speculation- hell I have track marks after leaving the ER because they could not get the iv right- and what dead perosn is not pale? hello- the blood is no longer circulating in the body.


I can testify to the truth in that part I put in bold because I was in the hospital a few weeks ago and I still have iv marks on both arms and people looking at me all funny when I wear a sleeveless shirt. confused
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Reply #1228 posted 07/08/09 2:35pm

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Serena said:

bboy87, do I remember you saying that MJ had recently been 'reborn'?

I wonder if he did know that something was seriously wrong. Especially if what you said is true along with the in-house doc, others being brought back into the fold and the Enquirer's prediction, it's all a little strange.

I've read conflicting reports about whether or not he had Lupus. I don't know much about the disease, but does it damage the immune system or cause organ damage? Then adding painkillers to his system would be even harder on his body.

But, if he did have Lupus, wouldn't that conflict with the 'he has no diseases and is perfectly healthy' mantra that Randy Phillips was spouting?

Nah, I don't think I said that....
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Reply #1229 posted 07/08/09 2:35pm

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Interview with Ebony Jet, shows the true Michael Jackson...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/ 08/michael-jackson-interview_n_227642.html

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