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Printablematthewgrant said: brooksie said: Why are people so upset that others are now getting interested in MJ? How illogical. MJ's music hasn't been played much on radio in 10+ years, his vids not much seen, and his name has been tarred in the mainstream media for just as long, but y'all complain that people are "jumping on the bandwagon"?
I think it's a great thing that people are now getting interested (or as in my case REinterested) in him. I have a funny feeling that some who are complaining about bandwagons weren't even around during the height of MJ's fame.  it is a great thing people are interested in his ART again. the problem with most of those people is they were no where to be seen except to bad mouth and laugh at the man. i know this to be true from the people I've seen bumping his tracks over the past week. I was made fun of in school for being as outspoken about my love for MJ music, no one's laughing at me now because they all "love" him 
and if some of us weren't around when Mike wasn't in his hey day it's no fault of our own but atleast we didn't wait for him to be dead. I was only 5 or 6 when the molestation allegations first started and i grew up THRU IT and stuck with him no matter what people thought of me. [Edited 7/6/09 22:31pm] Oh I see, this is some high school stuff.  People change their minds. As I pointed out, MJ's ART hasn't been the focus for a long time and now that it is, folks are feeling it again. All to the good.
Would you prefer the reverse?
The big tragedy of MJ was that other things started to overshadow his talent and time moved on, but now people are revisiting a great. Sad it takes someone's death, but many people come to something after the greatness has passed. | |
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Damn I didn't know The Jackson's song this song first!!!
All I Do Is Thing of You Troop- All I Do Is Think of You I thought it was their original song... The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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brooksie said: matthewgrant said: it is a great thing people are interested in his ART again. the problem with most of those people is they were no where to be seen except to bad mouth and laugh at the man. i know this to be true from the people I've seen bumping his tracks over the past week. I was made fun of in school for being as outspoken about my love for MJ music, no one's laughing at me now because they all "love" him
and if some of us weren't around when Mike wasn't in his hey day it's no fault of our own but atleast we didn't wait for him to be dead. I was only 5 or 6 when the molestation allegations first started and i grew up THRU IT and stuck with him no matter what people thought of me. [Edited 7/6/09 22:31pm] Oh I see, this is some high school stuff. People change their minds. As I pointed out, MJ's ART hasn't been the focus for a long time and now that it is, folks are feeling it again. All to the good.
Would you prefer the reverse?
The big tragedy of MJ was that other things started to overshadow his talent and time moved on, but now people are revisiting a great. Sad it takes someone's death, but many people come to something after the greatness has passed. That's the point, people now wanna pay tribute.  I don't know what's so commendable about suddenly remembering the greatness of someone, remember it when you're here, not dead when you can't smell the roses. I didn't mind the haters anyway.  But now they wanna be sorry for me. "You need haters." [Edited 7/6/09 22:55pm] | |
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brooksie said: matthewgrant said: it is a great thing people are interested in his ART again. the problem with most of those people is they were no where to be seen except to bad mouth and laugh at the man. i know this to be true from the people I've seen bumping his tracks over the past week. I was made fun of in school for being as outspoken about my love for MJ music, no one's laughing at me now because they all "love" him
and if some of us weren't around when Mike wasn't in his hey day it's no fault of our own but atleast we didn't wait for him to be dead. I was only 5 or 6 when the molestation allegations first started and i grew up THRU IT and stuck with him no matter what people thought of me. [Edited 7/6/09 22:31pm] Oh I see, this is some high school stuff. People change their minds. As I pointed out, MJ's ART hasn't been the focus for a long time and now that it is, folks are feeling it again. All to the good.
Would you prefer the reverse?
The big tragedy of MJ was that other things started to overshadow his talent and time moved on, but now people are revisiting a great. Sad it takes someone's death, but many people come to something after the greatness has passed. oh give me a break. how and wear I was treated was an example. take a look at the media for the passed how many years vs. how they're looking at him now for another. I haven't seen his full name printed out on the front of magazines so many times in a long time. (Waco Jacko ring a bell?) We understand the reality of people coming back to the part of his life he willingly gave us (his music) in the time of his death but that doesn't mean we're not gonna call 'em on it hear and now. [Edited 7/6/09 23:26pm] 12/05/2011 
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Timmy84 said: brooksie said: Oh I see, this is some high school stuff. People change their minds. As I pointed out, MJ's ART hasn't been the focus for a long time and now that it is, folks are feeling it again. All to the good.
Would you prefer the reverse?
The big tragedy of MJ was that other things started to overshadow his talent and time moved on, but now people are revisiting a great. Sad it takes someone's death, but many people come to something after the greatness has passed. That's the point, people now wanna pay tribute. I don't know what's so commendable about suddenly remembering the greatness of someone, remember it when you're here, not dead when you can't smell the roses. I didn't mind the haters anyway. But now they wanna be sorry for me. "You need haters."
[Edited 7/6/09 22:55pm] Most of Micheal's family was HATERS! Michael knew how to work the media to get attention as well. His antics kept people wondering what he was gonna do next! Michael wanted to keep us all guessing whether we liked him or NOT! A stupid man’s report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. | |
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brooksie said: Why are people so upset that others are now getting interested in MJ? How illogical. MJ's music hasn't been played much on radio in 10+ years, his vids not much seen, and his name has been tarred in the mainstream media for just as long, but y'all complain that people are "jumping on the bandwagon"?
I think it's a great thing that people are now getting interested (or as in my case REinterested) in him. I have a funny feeling that some who are complaining about bandwagons weren't even around during the height of MJ's fame. Yeah, I think it's only natural for people to revisit an artist or memory after a death. Call it what you will. And I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say they are absolutely sick of hearing about Michael Jackson and a lot of other downright mean things. So, I am happy for those who are discovering him or perhaps remembering what they used to like about him in the first place. Much respect due to the great art he made over the years. Michael's music was a big part of my life during my formative years and that will remain. However, I have not liked the music or image I've seen/heard from him in a long time and that will not change because he passed away. I've always had a soft spot for MJ, though. I could never bring myself to diss him and it hurt to see him unravel so....so painful to see, so I tried to look away. I remember being mad at MTV when it seemed like they tried to clown him with that birthday/"Artist of the Millennium" fiasco.
Btw, TMZ is reporting that MJ's body will be at Staples tomorrow after all? That can't be right, can it?  "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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GirlBrother said: Siedah Garrett sings 'Man In The Mirror' as a personal tribute...
[Edited 7/6/09 12:51pm] "I have the distinct honor of writing one of Michael Jacksons all-time favorite songs," says Saieda Garrett. "Michael's compassion and generosity taught the world to sing with one voice and his amazing talent lives in the hearts of people everywhere." God Bless you Mike may you R.I.P. thanks for the post  Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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matthewgrant said: brooksie said: Oh I see, this is some high school stuff. People change their minds. As I pointed out, MJ's ART hasn't been the focus for a long time and now that it is, folks are feeling it again. All to the good.
Would you prefer the reverse?
The big tragedy of MJ was that other things started to overshadow his talent and time moved on, but now people are revisiting a great. Sad it takes someone's death, but many people come to something after the greatness has passed. oh give me a break. how and wear I was treated was an example. take a look at the media for the passed how many years vs. how they're looking at him now for another. I haven't seen his full name printed out on the front of magazines so many times in a long time. (Waco Jacko ring a bell?) We understand the reality of people coming back to the part of his life he willingly gave us (his music) in the time of his death but that doesn't mean we're not gonna call 'em on it hear and now. [Edited 7/6/09 23:26pm] You brought up your high school shit, but whining is the name of the game here.
I've seen his name printed out in FULL many times over the years, it all depended on what media you were reading. Not all of the media went that route, but as I said...his personal problems outstripped his career after a certain point. Let's get real here, his performing career has basically been dead in the water for most of the 00s. Much of this was by his choice and his actions. Let's not pretend that the public was being so unfair to him. | |
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Timmy84 said: brooksie said: Oh I see, this is some high school stuff. People change their minds. As I pointed out, MJ's ART hasn't been the focus for a long time and now that it is, folks are feeling it again. All to the good.
Would you prefer the reverse?
The big tragedy of MJ was that other things started to overshadow his talent and time moved on, but now people are revisiting a great. Sad it takes someone's death, but many people come to something after the greatness has passed. That's the point, people now wanna pay tribute. I don't know what's so commendable about suddenly remembering the greatness of someone, remember it when you're here, not dead when you can't smell the roses. I didn't mind the haters anyway. But now they wanna be sorry for me. "You need haters."
[Edited 7/6/09 22:55pm] Whoever said it was "commedable", but what good will complaining about it do? (However it's certainly "commedable" for his back catalog and heirs, n'est-ce pas?) I think it IS good that people are starting to give the art a chance again. Only a true music snob would have issues w/ people getting into the music of a great artist, by whatever means and whatever time they do. Many people got into EC because of "Unplugged" and the death of his son. Is this somehow wrong? [Edited 7/6/09 23:42pm] | |
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Jackson memorial sideshow is a real circus -- complete with elephants, zebras and tigers 7:26 PM | July 6, 2009 Authorities are trying to keep the Michael Jackson memorial from turning into a circus. But at the same time, they are preparing for a real circus -- the type with animals and ringmasters. Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey, which starts a five-day engagement at Staples on Wednesday, is scheduled to undertake the circus tradition of marching its elephants into town. A passel of elephants will start walking from Union Station to Staples Center at 3:30 a.m. Tuesday, according to Kathy Davis, interim manager of the city's Animal Services department, which issued the permit to Ringling Bros. The circus has already trucked 12 tigers into place on a back lot behind Staples Center. Five zebras were spotted this afternoon around Staples. Ringling Bros. will also truck in three ponies and 30 dogs. -- Geoff Boucher at Staples Center and Carla Hall ---- | |
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brooksie said: matthewgrant said: oh give me a break. how and wear I was treated was an example. take a look at the media for the passed how many years vs. how they're looking at him now for another. I haven't seen his full name printed out on the front of magazines so many times in a long time. (Waco Jacko ring a bell?) We understand the reality of people coming back to the part of his life he willingly gave us (his music) in the time of his death but that doesn't mean we're not gonna call 'em on it hear and now. [Edited 7/6/09 23:26pm] You brought up your high school shit, but whining is the name of the game here.
I've seen his name printed out in FULL many times over the years, it all depended on what media you were reading. Not all of the media went that route, but as I said...his personal problems outstripped his career after a certain point. Let's get real here, his performing career has basically been dead in the water for most of the 00s. Much of this was by his choice and his actions. Let's not pretend that the public was being so unfair to him. you don't have to defend the people I was ranting about, it wasn't against everyone who's listening to his music again. it was an inside conversation you missed and wouldn't be on the same wave length with even if you caught it when it was still going on because you still don't understand when we've tried to answer your question and explain. ya'll can join to party, don't worry   [Edited 7/6/09 23:47pm] 12/05/2011
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matthewgrant said: brooksie said: You brought up your high school shit, but whining is the name of the game here.
I've seen his name printed out in FULL many times over the years, it all depended on what media you were reading. Not all of the media went that route, but as I said...his personal problems outstripped his career after a certain point. Let's get real here, his performing career has basically been dead in the water for most of the 00s. Much of this was by his choice and his actions. Let's not pretend that the public was being so unfair to him. you don't have to defend the people I was ranting about, it wasn't against everyone who's listening to his music again. it was an inside conversation you missed and wouldn't be on the same wave length with even if you caught it when it was still going on. ya'll can join to party, don't worry Exactly, just don't talk shit when you leave. And we're all cool. This was just to certain folks who were going on believing that bullshit, lol. [Edited 7/6/09 23:47pm] | |
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Some people were scared to admit they liked MJ because of peer pressure, it wasn't cool to like MJ, now it is. Face it, this is how Thriller sold so many millions, causal band wagon fans.
All I know is I've always been in to Michael and proud to say it, I'm a music fan first and foremost. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Heavy .... Hope someones got Prince's back, now MJ has gone the media will be after him Da, Da, Da....Emancipation....Free..don't think I ain't..! London 21 Nights...Clap your hands...you know the rest..
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bettybop said: brooksie said: Why are people so upset that others are now getting interested in MJ? How illogical. MJ's music hasn't been played much on radio in 10+ years, his vids not much seen, and his name has been tarred in the mainstream media for just as long, but y'all complain that people are "jumping on the bandwagon"?
I think it's a great thing that people are now getting interested (or as in my case REinterested) in him. I have a funny feeling that some who are complaining about bandwagons weren't even around during the height of MJ's fame. Yeah, I think it's only natural for people to revisit an artist or memory after a death. Call it what you will. And I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say they are absolutely sick of hearing about Michael Jackson and a lot of other downright mean things. So, I am happy for those who are discovering him or perhaps remembering what they used to like about him in the first place. Much respect due to the great art he made over the years. Michael's music was a big part of my life during my formative years and that will remain. However, I have not liked the music or image I've seen/heard from him in a long time and that will not change because he passed away. I've always had a soft spot for MJ, though. I could never bring myself to diss him and it hurt to see him unravel so....so painful to see, so I tried to look away. I remember being mad at MTV when it seemed like they tried to clown him with that birthday/"Artist of the Millennium" fiasco.
Btw, TMZ is reporting that MJ's body will be at Staples tomorrow after all? That can't be right, can it? Yup, when Frank Sinatra, Johnny Cash, Syd Barrett, Ray Charles, etc died, people started getting into them and their music. Their music hadn't been mainstream in decades upon their deaths, so for some folks, it was their 1st experience of it. Why is that a bad thing and why should people resent it? The heirs benefit and people are (re)introduced to great sounds. Win-win as far as I can see. Seems petty to sit up and pull "I'm the better fan" when your beloved artist is starting to get love.
I didn't care for much of MJ's later stuff either. Sometimes you as listener and the artist part ways. Such is life. Nothing lasts forever. 
It was VERY painful to watch what was happening over the years w/ him, very. It was hard to see someone you admired so much just falling apart. | |
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lilgish said: Some people were scared to admit they liked MJ because of peer pressure, it wasn't cool to like MJ, now it is. Face it, this is how Thriller sold so many millions, causal band wagon fans.
All I know is I've always been in to Michael and proud to say it, I'm a music fan first and foremost. Good friggin' point. | |
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lilgish said: Some people were scared to admit they liked MJ because of peer pressure, it wasn't cool to like MJ, now it is. Face it, this is how Thriller sold so many millions, causal band wagon fans.
All I know is I've always been in to Michael and proud to say it, I'm a music fan first and foremost. Exactly. His Thriller album and subsequent appeal happened AFTER several big events like M25 and his world premiere vids. If it hadn't been for more casual fans or those who just liked the whole Thriller bit, it would have never blown up so big nor would he had. | |
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brooksie said: bettybop said: Yeah, I think it's only natural for people to revisit an artist or memory after a death. Call it what you will. And I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say they are absolutely sick of hearing about Michael Jackson and a lot of other downright mean things. So, I am happy for those who are discovering him or perhaps remembering what they used to like about him in the first place. Much respect due to the great art he made over the years. Michael's music was a big part of my life during my formative years and that will remain. However, I have not liked the music or image I've seen/heard from him in a long time and that will not change because he passed away. I've always had a soft spot for MJ, though. I could never bring myself to diss him and it hurt to see him unravel so....so painful to see, so I tried to look away. I remember being mad at MTV when it seemed like they tried to clown him with that birthday/"Artist of the Millennium" fiasco.
Btw, TMZ is reporting that MJ's body will be at Staples tomorrow after all? That can't be right, can it? Yup, when Frank Sinatra, Johnny Cash, Syd Barrett, Ray Charles, etc died, people started getting into them and their music. Their music hadn't been mainstream in decades upon their deaths, so for some folks, it was their 1st experience of it. Why is that a bad thing and why should people resent it? The heirs benefit and people are (re)introduced to great sounds. Win-win as far as I can see. Seems petty to sit up and pull "I'm the better fan" when your beloved artist is starting to get love.
I didn't care for much of MJ's later stuff either. Sometimes you as listener and the artist part ways. Such is life. Nothing lasts forever.
It was VERY painful to watch what was happening over the years w/ him, very. It was hard to see someone you admired so much just falling apart. The difference between MJ and the rest of them was I saw the media treat them with more respect than they did MJ. They NEVER were called anything but legends because they had no ammo for them to talk their shit but MJ did. It shouldn't be common to do that either. I mean, you never were loved when you're alive, now people treat you like you save their momma. My own momma touched on that, she often compared MJ with her with not having a good childhood and not being loved (or respected) as well as she should. Before, people didn't think his shit was good after "Thriller", now they wanna rave about "Bad". 
Shit, I'd get over it in a minute but double standards suck.
"I think he's a freak...but I love his albums!"
By the way, scroll further up, there's that demo of your favorite song, brook. Enjoy.  [Edited 7/7/09 0:00am] | |
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Brooke Shields talks about `asexual' Jackson
5 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AP) — Brooke Shields was 13 when she first met Michael Jackson and the two "instantly became friends" — mainly because sexual tension was off the table. "Nothing was jaded about him," the 44-year-old actress told Rolling Stone magazine for a special commemorative issue about the King of Pop, on sale Friday. Shields said the two became close since sexuality wasn't a part of their friendship. She describes her young self as "the most celebrated virgin ever" at a time when women "wanted to throw themselves at (Jackson) and feel like they were going to teach him." Shields said that as Jackson grew up, "the more asexual he became to me." But he was curious about her early relationships. "He was like a little kid who talked about the bases — what first base was, what second base was," Shields said. "It sounded very odd to the outside, I can imagine, but to the inside, to someone who's never really left his bubble, you can understand how he would be curious." Shields said she last saw Jackson in 1991, at Elizabeth Taylor's most recent wedding. "We snuck in and took pictures of ourselves next to her dress," Shields recalled. "We always seemed to revert to being little kids." Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. | |
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ehuffnsd said: Ottensen said: I don't think you understand what I'm saying. Not only did he not create the dance, but with understanding more about regional differences in my country,we often have several names for one thing and it's not important who came up with what name. The main idea here is that this movement was something popular back in the days of my 77 year old father and his jazz cohorts, no matter what you choose to recognize it as. People are so caught up in their idolatry of a pop figure that they blatantly disrespect and discount the history of Mochael's and my ancestors. It's a pity because it comes off as insulting. Next I suppose on Madonna's passing people will argue that she invented the Jeté when she made the video for Holiday, but I guess we'll,cross that bridge when we come to it.  even though Drag Queens had been voguing for years Madonna created the Vogue get it right!!! Yannno? | |
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CalhounSq said: You mfs spent a PAGE arguing about the damn moonwalk/backslide/camel walk! That was my fault. I posted that video to try and teach that dern whippersnapper some his'try  | |
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Timmy84 said: Brooke Shields talks about `asexual' Jackson
5 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AP) — Brooke Shields was 13 when she first met Michael Jackson and the two "instantly became friends" — mainly because sexual tension was off the table. "Nothing was jaded about him," the 44-year-old actress told Rolling Stone magazine for a special commemorative issue about the King of Pop, on sale Friday. Shields said the two became close since sexuality wasn't a part of their friendship. She describes her young self as "the most celebrated virgin ever" at a time when women "wanted to throw themselves at (Jackson) and feel like they were going to teach him." Shields said that as Jackson grew up, "the more asexual he became to me." But he was curious about her early relationships. "He was like a little kid who talked about the bases — what first base was, what second base was," Shields said. "It sounded very odd to the outside, I can imagine, but to the inside, to someone who's never really left his bubble, you can understand how he would be curious." Shields said she last saw Jackson in 1991, at Elizabeth Taylor's most recent wedding. "We snuck in and took pictures of ourselves next to her dress," Shields recalled. "We always seemed to revert to being little kids." Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. 1991? what about them hanging out 2 years after that? [Edited 7/7/09 0:09am] "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Timmy84 said: The difference between MJ and the rest of them was I saw the media treat them with more respect than they did MJ. They NEVER were called anything but legends because they had no ammo for them to talk their shit but MJ did. It shouldn't be common to do that either. I mean, you never were loved when you're alive, now people treat you like you save their momma. My own momma touched on that, she often compared MJ with her with not having a good childhood and not being loved (or respected) as well as she should. Before, people didn't think his shit was good after "Thriller", now they wanna rave about "Bad".
Shit, I'd get over it in a minute but double standards suck.
"I think he's a freak...but I love his albums!"
By the way, scroll further up, there's that demo of your favorite song, brook. Enjoy.
[Edited 7/7/09 0:00am] Frank Sinatra got the MJ treatment as much as could have been for the era he was in. He was the 1st superstar singer in the modern sense. Of course, by the time he passed this was long before, but Frank dealt w/ tons of disrespect. Much of the dirt flung at him stuck and stayed apart of his legacy. Johnny Cash (prison), Ray Charles, (addiction), Syd Barrett (permanent acid trip)...these were apart of their media images for decades. The media, upon death, did the same volte face w/ them as they are doing w/ MJ now. they weren't always untarnished legends. Clearly you know little about those stars and their reps over the decades. Think MJ had the 1st celeb mugshot? Frank's precedes his by nearly 50 years!
It's also possible to like someone's music and not like them or think they're weird. Ever heard of Lou Reed?
Timmy...what IS your problem? Yeah, I got a song title wrong, but you seem to bring it up when I make a point you can't refute. Grow up a bit, will ya. [Edited 7/7/09 0:14am] | |
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I have been wondering what to say personally on the subject of Michael's death. Being a life long fan it's been hard to put it all down - so I have tried to just report articles and such. I think post tomorrow I will be able to formulate my thoughts.
I do however welcome people re/discovering his music. For too long the focus was on how the media wanted to portray him and not on the actual music. Like others have noted, it is natural to want to go back and celebrate music you may have missed or forgotten about. And to hear people talk about Michael now with respect for his craft is a positive thing. Some might see it as bandwagoning, but is that just because we as fans want to keep Michael extra special and exclusive to us? Personally, if people are relistening and re-evaluating his music or being introduced to it then I am all for it, after all this is the legacy he has left and how his music will live on. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: Brooke Shields talks about `asexual' Jackson
5 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AP) — Brooke Shields was 13 when she first met Michael Jackson and the two "instantly became friends" — mainly because sexual tension was off the table. "Nothing was jaded about him," the 44-year-old actress told Rolling Stone magazine for a special commemorative issue about the King of Pop, on sale Friday. Shields said the two became close since sexuality wasn't a part of their friendship. She describes her young self as "the most celebrated virgin ever" at a time when women "wanted to throw themselves at (Jackson) and feel like they were going to teach him." Shields said that as Jackson grew up, "the more asexual he became to me." But he was curious about her early relationships. "He was like a little kid who talked about the bases — what first base was, what second base was," Shields said. "It sounded very odd to the outside, I can imagine, but to the inside, to someone who's never really left his bubble, you can understand how he would be curious." Shields said she last saw Jackson in 1991, at Elizabeth Taylor's most recent wedding. "We snuck in and took pictures of ourselves next to her dress," Shields recalled. "We always seemed to revert to being little kids." Copyright © 2009 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. 1991? what about them hanging out 2 years after that? [Edited 7/7/09 0:09am] Must have MJ-nesia. | |
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Ottensen said: CalhounSq said: You mfs spent a PAGE arguing about the damn moonwalk/backslide/camel walk! That was my fault. I posted that video to try and teach that dern whippersnapper some his'try and I stayed out of it, and I usually join in immediately when it comes to dance moves! "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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Swa said: I have been wondering what to say personally on the subject of Michael's death. Being a life long fan it's been hard to put it all down - so I have tried to just report articles and such. I think post tomorrow I will be able to formulate my thoughts.
I do however welcome people re/discovering his music. For too long the focus was on how the media wanted to portray him and not on the actual music. Like others have noted, it is natural to want to go back and celebrate music you may have missed or forgotten about. And to hear people talk about Michael now with respect for his craft is a positive thing. Some might see it as bandwagoning, but is that just because we as fans want to keep Michael extra special and exclusive to us? Personally, if people are relistening and re-evaluating his music or being introduced to it then I am all for it, after all this is the legacy he has left and how his music will live on. Swa Not knocking that, he has a great legacy and it's not fan-only. You just gotta be honest and just admit you fell into the media hype. And there's more reasons for the bandwagon, it ain't just his music, people crediting him with the economy, people talking about him on the sports channel, getting 24-hour media coverage (did Sinatra even get that? I'm sure Elvis did but it was on only three stations)...
I even heard his image was gonna be put in BUTTER and shit. | |
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brooksie said: Timmy84 said: The difference between MJ and the rest of them was I saw the media treat them with more respect than they did MJ. They NEVER were called anything but legends because they had no ammo for them to talk their shit but MJ did. It shouldn't be common to do that either. I mean, you never were loved when you're alive, now people treat you like you save their momma. My own momma touched on that, she often compared MJ with her with not having a good childhood and not being loved (or respected) as well as she should. Before, people didn't think his shit was good after "Thriller", now they wanna rave about "Bad".
Shit, I'd get over it in a minute but double standards suck.
"I think he's a freak...but I love his albums!"
By the way, scroll further up, there's that demo of your favorite song, brook. Enjoy.
[Edited 7/7/09 0:00am] Frank Sinatra got the MJ treatment as much as could have been for the era he was in. He was the 1st superstar singer in the modern sense. Of course, by the time he passed this was long before, but Frank dealt w/ tons of disrespect. Much of the dirt flung at him stuck and stayed apart of his legacy. Johnny Cash (prison), Ray Charles, (addiction), Syd Barrett (permanent acid trip)...these were apart of their media images for decades. The media, upon death, did the same volte face w/ them as they are doing w/ MJ now. they weren't always untarnished legends. Clearly you know little about those stars and their reps over the decades.
Timmy...what IS your problem? Yeah, I got a song title wrong, but you seem to bring it up when I make a point you can't refute. Grow up a bit, will ya. I ain't mad. I joke to Matt you were on my "shit list". Believe me you're really not. But see, even with all that stuff you're mentioning, they didn't get what Michael got. They were still more respected in life than Michael was. That's all I'm saying. It's cool if people wanna listen to the music, just don't pretend you love him. That's all. Moving on... | |
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