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Reply #870 posted 07/04/09 12:02pm

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The ghost story is explained. As much as I miss Michael, that wasn't his ghost,its a shadow. I do believed that his spirits are forever present tho.
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Reply #871 posted 07/04/09 12:10pm

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graecophilos said:

midiscover said:



eek eek eek

I think it's MJ you'll!!!
He's trying to tell us something



head down. like on Billie Jean or he's really sad. Probably he's pissed at our behaviour.


No, The fact that some Mj fans got crazed to the point that they start to see things that do not exist, the man is dead , move the hell on and accpet this fact.
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MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #872 posted 07/04/09 12:45pm

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seeingvoices12 said:

graecophilos said:




head down. like on Billie Jean or he's really sad. Probably he's pissed at our behaviour.


No, The fact that some Mj fans got crazed to the point that they start to see things that do not exist, the man is dead , move the hell on and accpet this fact.
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I respect your sensitivity. BUT: You have to assume that most of us are not hardcore MJ fans. At least, we all like Prince. He's another important musician in our life and I have many more.

Considering that, it's okay to discuss in a way that might offend your grieving because it's unnatural to act like we're his family or in a church. Why not the occasional joke? In an actual MJ forum it would be different, but here?
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Reply #873 posted 07/04/09 12:48pm

Timmy84

Y'all seeing things.
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Reply #874 posted 07/04/09 12:50pm

babybugz

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ghost? Mike is gone sadly
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Reply #875 posted 07/04/09 1:08pm

seeingvoices12

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graecophilos said:

seeingvoices12 said:



No, The fact that some Mj fans got crazed to the point that they start to see things that do not exist, the man is dead , move the hell on and accpet this fact.
[Edited 7/4/09 12:11pm]


I respect your sensitivity. BUT: You have to assume that most of us are not hardcore MJ fans. At least, we all like Prince. He's another important musician in our life and I have many more.

Considering that, it's okay to discuss in a way that might offend your grieving because it's unnatural to act like we're his family or in a church. Why not the occasional joke? In an actual MJ forum it would be different, but here?


whatthe hell lol


LOL,Re-read what I Have posted, you misunderstood what I wrote,I was citisizing Mj's fans for see things that do not exist, seeing a ghost of MJ eek I said that they should accept that fact that he is gone and move on, seeing a ghost of Mj is the last thing i want to hear,thats silly and stupid.
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MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #876 posted 07/04/09 1:32pm

midiscover

graecophilos said:

midiscover said:



eek eek eek

I think it's MJ you'll!!!
He's trying to tell us something



head down. like on Billie Jean or he's really sad. Probably he's pissed at our behaviour.


He's saying get the fuck out of my house! lol
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Reply #877 posted 07/04/09 1:33pm

Timmy84

midiscover said:

graecophilos said:




head down. like on Billie Jean or he's really sad. Probably he's pissed at our behaviour.


He's saying get the fuck out of my house! lol


evillol

He's also saying "leave me the fuck alone! Y'all were just talking shit about me, now you wanna mourn me? FUCK YOU!" evillol
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Reply #878 posted 07/04/09 1:34pm

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midiscover said:

graecophilos said:




head down. like on Billie Jean or he's really sad. Probably he's pissed at our behaviour.


He's saying get the fuck out of my house! lol

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P*$$y so bad, if u throw it into da air, it would turn into sunshine!!! whistle
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Reply #879 posted 07/04/09 1:35pm

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Timmy84 said:

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He's saying get the fuck out of my house! lol


evillol

He's also saying "leave me the fuck alone! Y'all were just talking shit about me, now you wanna mourn me? FUCK YOU!" evillol
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MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #880 posted 07/04/09 1:39pm

midiscover

Timmy84 said:

midiscover said:



He's saying get the fuck out of my house! lol


evillol

He's also saying "leave me the fuck alone! Y'all were just talking shit about me, now you wanna mourn me? FUCK YOU!" evillol


falloff

I bet he is!
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Reply #881 posted 07/04/09 1:40pm

Timmy84

midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:



evillol

He's also saying "leave me the fuck alone! Y'all were just talking shit about me, now you wanna mourn me? FUCK YOU!" evillol


falloff

I bet he is!


I bet you he's doing this right now - " flipped off " lol
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Reply #882 posted 07/04/09 1:42pm

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Timmy84 said:

midiscover said:



falloff

I bet he is!


I bet you he's doing this right now - " flipped off " lol



lol

It's so stupid how everyone that didn't like him is all listening to his music and shit! I never liked MJ's music but I respect his artistry but that doesn't mean I will start listening just because he died! Give me a fucking break! It's stupid! Just a few weeks back when he was rocking cheetah pants people were calling him nuts and etc. now they are praising him UGHHHHH!
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Reply #883 posted 07/04/09 1:44pm

Timmy84

midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:



I bet you he's doing this right now - " flipped off " lol



lol

It's so stupid how everyone that didn't like him is all listening to his music and shit! I never liked MJ's music but I respect his artistry but that doesn't mean I will start listening just because he died! Give me a fucking break! It's stupid! Just a few weeks back when he was rocking cheetah pants people were calling him nuts and etc. now they are praising him UGHHHHH!


Yeah I can't stand it when people stab your back, then try hard to get their knives off the corpse. lol
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Reply #884 posted 07/04/09 2:08pm

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midiscover said:

Timmy84 said:



I bet you he's doing this right now - " flipped off " lol



lol

It's so stupid how everyone that didn't like him is all listening to his music and shit! I never liked MJ's music but I respect his artistry but that doesn't mean I will start listening just because he died! Give me a fucking break! It's stupid! Just a few weeks back when he was rocking cheetah pants people were calling him nuts and etc. now they are praising him UGHHHHH!


If only people realized this about Michael earlier that he wasn't as nuts as they thought. lol
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Reply #885 posted 07/04/09 2:08pm

Timmy84



Check the last few moments, remind you of something?
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Reply #886 posted 07/04/09 2:11pm

Timmy84

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midiscover said:




lol

It's so stupid how everyone that didn't like him is all listening to his music and shit! I never liked MJ's music but I respect his artistry but that doesn't mean I will start listening just because he died! Give me a fucking break! It's stupid! Just a few weeks back when he was rocking cheetah pants people were calling him nuts and etc. now they are praising him UGHHHHH!


If only people realized this about Michael earlier that he wasn't as nuts as they thought. lol


No I bet they'll still think he was nuts "but he was a great performer during the Thriller era" they say. lol
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Reply #887 posted 07/04/09 2:23pm

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I think michael been dead to alot of people but not to me though , but yeah everybody jumping on the bandwagon now lol
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Reply #888 posted 07/04/09 2:25pm

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OH LAAAAAWD JEEEEESUS!!!!! disbelief
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #889 posted 07/04/09 2:28pm

Timmy84

CalhounSq said:

Copycat said:



OH LAAAAAWD JEEEEESUS!!!!! disbelief


I look at that and actually felt my butt feel a sting. OUCH! confused

@babybugz, well if you're a fan I can understand but yeah lots of folks are jumping on the fucking bandwagon. JUST STOP! lol
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Reply #890 posted 07/04/09 2:29pm

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Timmy84 said:

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If only people realized this about Michael earlier that he wasn't as nuts as they thought. lol


No I bet they'll still think he was nuts "but he was a great performer during the Thriller era" they say. lol


But they're finally seeing the human side of Michael and all the home videos of Michael showing him as a loving father.

lol
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Reply #891 posted 07/04/09 2:32pm

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suga10 said:

Timmy84 said:



No I bet they'll still think he was nuts "but he was a great performer during the Thriller era" they say. lol


But they're finally seeing the human side of Michael and all the home videos of Michael showing him as a loving father.

lol
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sad they didn't realized that only after he died disbelief
MICHAEL JACKSON
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مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #892 posted 07/04/09 2:33pm

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Timmy84 said:

CalhounSq said:



OH LAAAAAWD JEEEEESUS!!!!! disbelief


I look at that and actually felt my butt feel a sting. OUCH! confused

@babybugz, well if you're a fan I can understand but yeah lots of folks are jumping on the fucking bandwagon. JUST STOP! lol

lol yeah i'm a fan but sadly i wasn't born to witness the thriller era i have youtube lol
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Reply #893 posted 07/04/09 2:38pm

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Timmy84 said:

CalhounSq said:



OH LAAAAAWD JEEEEESUS!!!!! disbelief


I look at that and actually felt my butt feel a sting. OUCH! confused

@babybugz, well if you're a fan I can understand but yeah lots of folks are jumping on the fucking bandwagon. JUST STOP! lol

Honestly, the look on her face & her posture is disturbing me more than the damn tat! falloff
heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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Reply #894 posted 07/04/09 2:38pm

Timmy84

babybugz said:

Timmy84 said:



I look at that and actually felt my butt feel a sting. OUCH! confused

@babybugz, well if you're a fan I can understand but yeah lots of folks are jumping on the fucking bandwagon. JUST STOP! lol

lol yeah i'm a fan but sadly i wasn't born to witness the thriller era i have youtube lol


Then you get my sympathy then. thumbs up! hug lol
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Reply #895 posted 07/04/09 2:39pm

Timmy84

CalhounSq said:

Timmy84 said:



I look at that and actually felt my butt feel a sting. OUCH! confused

@babybugz, well if you're a fan I can understand but yeah lots of folks are jumping on the fucking bandwagon. JUST STOP! lol

Honestly, the look on her face & her posture is disturbing me more than the damn tat! falloff


Yeah that IS disturbing. confused lol
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Reply #896 posted 07/04/09 2:41pm

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...kson_tohme

Dr. Tohme Tohme, an advisor to Michael Jackson, stands in front of a painting of AP – Dr. Tohme Tohme, an advisor to Michael Jackson, stands in front of a painting of Jackson titled 'The …


By LINDA DEUTSCH, AP Special Correspondent Linda Deutsch, Ap Special Correspondent – 37 mins ago

LOS ANGELES – Dr. Tohme Tohme vividly remembers the first time he met with Michael Jackson to discuss the pop star's finances. It's not the money talk that stays with him now, but his enchantment at entering Jackson's world of love.

"I saw how kind he was and what a wonderful human being," Tohme said in an interview. "I saw him with his children and I had never seen a better father. ... I decided to do what I could to help him."

Tohme, a financier with a murky past, had been contacted by Jackson's brother, Jermaine, who asked if Tohme could help to save Jackson's beloved Neverland ranch from foreclosure. Tohme said he traveled with Jermaine to Las Vegas, where Jackson was living after years of wandering the world following his acquittal on child molestation charges.

They bonded instantly. "For the last year and a half I was the closest person to Michael Jackson," Tohme said. He contacted Tom Barrack, the chairman of Colony Capital and a close personal friend. "He was hesitant to get involved, but I said, 'Let's go see Michael,'" Tohme recalled.

After the meeting he said Barrack, who was impressed with Jackson's "intelligence and focus," bought the note for Neverland. But that was just the beginning of a business relationship that culminated in the London concerts that were to have begun next week.

Wearing a suit with no tie, Tohme, Jackson's last business manager and spokesperson, granted his first interview Friday to The Associated Press in the office of a lawyer friend.

Tohmen, listed in public records as being in his late 50s, has been portrayed as something of a mystery man in the Jackson brain trust.

"I hate the words 'mystery man,'" he said. "I'm a private man. A lot of people like the media and I don't. I respect the privacy of other people but lately nobody respects mine."

As he spoke, his cell phone rang constantly. He took only a few calls, one of them from Jesse Jackson.

He has been stung by allegations that he was involved with the Nation of Islam, which he said was untrue.

"I have nothing against anybody," he said, "But I don't know anyone from the Nation of Islam. When I took over Michael Jackson's affairs, I fired some people from the Nation of Islam."

It is known that he is of Lebanese descent. His double name — pronounced toh-MAY' — is not uncommon in the Middle East. But he declined to go into detail about his own life and career other than to say he is a U.S. citizen who was raised in Los Angeles and, "I'm a self-made man. I'm in the world of finance."

"I don't want to talk about me," he said. "I'm a nobody. I'm not important. I want to talk about Michael Jackson."

At times he appeared on the verge of tears as he discussed Jackson's death, saying, "It's unbelievable ... I'm devastated ... God bless his soul."

He said that by talking about Jackson, he was fulfilling one of the star's wishes.

"He always said to me, 'I want people to really know who I am after I'm gone.'"

He would only briefly discuss Jackson's finances. During his time with the superstar, Tohme said, he was paid nothing but was able to negotiate lucrative business deals that would secure the future of Jackson's children. He followed a long line of business managers and spokespeople who had come and gone from Jackson over the years. In the final year, he said he played a pivotal role in turning things around.

His negotiations for Jackson included a Broadway show with the Nederlander organization, an animated TV show based on "Thriller," a line of clothing including "moonwalk shoes," and more. He said he was working with others to renegotiate the terms of Jackson's main assets, his share of the Sony-ATV Music Publishing Catalog — which includes music by the Beatles — and the catalog of Mijac, the company that controls Michael Jackson's own music.

"I am not in the music business. I'm a stranger to this business," Tohme said, noting that he had stiff competition from others who wanted to take over Jackson's finances.

"I built a fence around Michael to keep people out," he said, acknowledging that he cut costs by firing many members of the Jackson staff, including security guards. And he twice fired the children's nanny, Grace Rawaramba, on Jackson's orders.

"I was trying to do what we could to maximize his profits and minimize spending. I wanted to find a way to reel in all the loans he had.

"We had an agreement," Tohme continued. "I would never interfere with his creative decisions and he wouldn't interfere with my business decisions."

Tohme said he abandoned everything he was doing in his own life to concentrate his time and effort on Jackson's affairs. He points with pride to the crown jewel of his and the new Jackson team's efforts: the contract with AEG for concerts at the 02 arena in London.

He said Jackson was looking forward to the concerts because he wanted his children to see him perform.

Like others before him, Tohme was caught up in the excitement of Jackson's world. He traveled with him to London, where they saw the play "Oliver" and were mobbed by fans. "I had never seen fans who loved anyone so much and he loved them just as much," Tohme said.

Tohme uses the title "Dr." and apparently has a medical degree, though there is no record that he has practiced in the United States. He said he was convinced that Jackson was in perfect health the last time he saw him, two days before he died. He said the star kept himself and his children on a healthy diet, never ate red meat, didn't drink and, as far as he knew, never took drugs.

He said he is disappointed that Jackson won't be buried at Neverland but hopes that may change: "He deserves to be buried in the wonderful world he created."

In Jackson's final months, Tohme said they talked about his wish to create "a special place ten times bigger than Graceland" where fans could come to see Jackson's memorabilia and awards. Jackson even talked about creating a veritable city for children.

"He wanted to be remembered as a great human being and he wanted to create as many happy places for the children of the world as he could," said Tohme.

The day Jackson died, as Tohme rushed to the hospital unsure if his friend was alive or dead, he said he remembered precious moments: Jackson bringing his children to Tohme's house for Thanksgiving dinner; Jackson and his children singing "Happy Birthday" to Tohme on the phone; the last time he saw Jackson at Staples Center, rehearsing for his big comeback.

And he remembered Jackson's last words to him that day: "I love you."
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #897 posted 07/04/09 2:44pm

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Timmy84 said:

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lol yeah i'm a fan but sadly i wasn't born to witness the thriller era i have youtube lol


Then you get my sympathy then. thumbs up! hug lol
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lol
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Reply #898 posted 07/04/09 2:49pm

suga10

I wasn't even born during the Thriller era- it was all Bad era and Dangerous era for me cool
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Reply #899 posted 07/04/09 2:50pm

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suga10 said:

I wasn't even born during the Thriller era- it was all Bad era and Dangerous era for me cool

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heart prince I never met you, but I LOVE you & I will forever!! Thank you for being YOU - my little Princey, the best to EVER do it prince heart
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