I'm just a musician and a record producer. I'm not a psychiatrist. I don't understand all that stuff. We all got problems. But there's a great book out called Too Soon Old, Too Late Smart. Did you see that? That book says the statute of limitations has expired on all childhood traumas. Get your stuff together and get on with your life, man. Stop whinin' about what's wrong, because everybody's had a rough time, in one way or another.

Quincy Jones Why not say that when he was alive asshole! I just hate traders, they already ripping Mike up now one of his close friends

Chic35 said:

you know what's ironic about this? right before nina simone died she gave an interview in which she ripped quincy a new one for influencing mj not to like black women. i'm going to see if it's still in salon's archives.

quincy is entitled to opinion about mj, of course. but i think i would have had more respect for him if he had been more forthcoming when mj was alive. did he ever try to sit his 'brother' down and tell him about that book? it just seems so cold to me. i wouldn't want a 'friend' speaking about me like that publicly. whatever he said to me in private, especially if i really needed to hear it, is one thing. to be so insensitive in public is something else.

JackieBlue said:

yeah but i think its kinda foul that he would share that with the press during this time, if he really felt like that and he spoke to mj about it thats something personal between him and the man he cried and called' his lil brother'.the part about him bringin up the kids puzzles me since quincy has kids as white as blanket n nem. mj had some serious issues with himself but i cant say he hated bein black because he never turned his back on the black community.we will never know what demons and issues he had,god got him now so quincy and everybody else need to let it go imo

kibbles said:

i'm not saying that quincy jones is any great enlightened pillar of humanity, and quite honestly i don't think quincy jones is trying to say that about himself, either. i just think it's kind of a failed comparison to say that Quincy Jones is a hypocrite for making comments about michael's skin color just because Q married a white woman. i don't think conflating one's issues with personal appearance is the same thing as what attracts you to someone else's personal appearance. as for why he didn't say all this when michael was alive...who knows? maybe he did make certain comments. maybe he didn't make comments like this to the press because he didn't want michael dealing with the fallout of second-hand criticism. who knows? it's one of those "walk a mile in his shoes" situations, i think. you probably had to be there to understand the whole story. again, i don't think quincy jones is any great philosophical guru, but i do think the interview posted on this thread with him was pretty deep and candid. i appreciated it.

Michael and Debbie Rowe


Michael Jackson and his children


Michael and Elizabeth Taylor

Copycat said:

The first thing I thought when I heard about this was...will they now sell his funeral as well? Anybody who knows if u can buy tickets 2 this "special event"??

tamewar said:

He did....more than once.

IS IT TRUE THAT THE BOY THAT ACCUSED MICHAEL JACKSON OF MOLESTATION RECANTED HIS STORY??

Jordan Chandler Admits He Lied about Michael Jackson
June 29, 2009 by antonio
Filed under Celebrities
Finally, Jordan Chandler admits he lied about Michael Jackson of indecency, which became the pilot to the court case against the “King of Pop”. Jordan Chandler the child that accused Michael for misbehaving with him finally came forward to tell that the case was based on lies. Evan Chandler was the father of the kid, he never approved the friendship between Jordan and Michael Jackson, and he is the one who accused “King of Pop” for having an unnatural relationship with his son.

Michael and Jordan were friends but Jordan’s father never approved their friendship, encouraged by his father Jordan charged “MJ” for the indecency in their relation. The case hit the streets, newspapers and tabloids and the only names people knew back then were Michael Jackson, Jordan and Evan Chandler, and media and law firms are hounding Michael Jackson.

It would be better if I do not make it all in favor of Michael Jackson, but it seems like we might never be able to know the truth. It is very much possible that Michael or his family have used their money to bribe or buy Even and Jordan and they have changed their statements, but who knows.
Anyway, these are the rumors I have heard over the internet and decided to write about it. After Michael Jackson’s death, Chandler has come forward and said that he made up the story just to insult the “King of Pop” for the money.
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Graycap23 said:

He did when?

tamewar said:

Its not Q's fault. I'm sure they discussed this before. A person has got to seek help to get help and admit that they have a problem to begin with.

totaldiva said:

STEVE HARVEY DISCUSSED THIS ON HIS MORNING SHOW

lowkey said:

Actually I was commenting on Q's statements on what manifests on the inside shows up on the outside. I was purposely leaving that particular comment alone.

While he shouldn't have said it publicly people really get hot when that comes up as if it couldn't possibly be true. Others feel actions speak louder than words so I think there's a real place where that belief comes from.

Dayum part 4, and we are not even a Michael fan site, cool.

Anxiety said:

quincy has spoken about people, black people in particular, questioning his racial identity for dating and marrying white women exclusively. talk about walking a mile in someone's shoes? if quincy doesn't like people questioning him about his racial politics, why does he get to question and criticize mj's? so he didn't get his nose done, so what? no chemical peel for him, okay. but quincy knows as well as i do that he has been subjected to the same whithering criticism as he is now directing at mj's corpse, whether you choose to believe the issues should be conflated or not.

suga10 said:

i totally agree. there are pictures that show michael with vitiligo. Michael has done so much for the black community for years. that video with deepak choopra and david gest hit the nail on the head.

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[Edited 7/2/09 11:19am]

kibbles said:

michael dated all different ethinicities of women. He was in love with diana ross for years. Dated Stephanie mills as well as rumoured fling with Tatiana Thumbzten....body language and a kiss doesn't lie

Copycat said:

Okay...that's a good thing

Debbie Rowe wants custody of the two children she had with Michael Jackson.


"I want my children," Rowe said during a 90-minute phone conversation Thursday morning with NBCLA's Chuck Henry.
Rowe said she was willing to submit to any testing, including DNA to prove that she is the children's true biological mother. Rowe also said she would submit to psychological testing.
She also said she would seek a restraining order to keep Jackson's father, Joe Jackson, away from the children.

The agreement does allow for visition, but Rowe said it's a very difficult process.

Jackson, who died at age 50, left behind three children: son Michael Joseph Jr., known as Prince Michael, 12; daughter Paris Michael Katherine, 11; and son Prince Michael II, 7. Rowe was the mother of the two oldest children.
The youngest was born to a surrogate mother, who has never been identified.

Rowe said she was concerned about splitting up the children.

Rowe, who was married to Jackson in 1996 and filed for divorce three years later, surrendered her parental rights. An appeals court later found that was done in error, and Rowe and Jackson entered an out-of-court settlement in 2006.

http://www.nbclosangeles....ldren.html

Debbie Rowe resurfaces. She waived her parental rights for cash and now she's suddenly feeling maternal?
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moussemaker said:

I just pray these children will eventually find peace in all of this

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

I always felt that the only women he had any romance feeling for

kibbles said:

so quincy has had his fair share of criticism throughout his life based on the race of women he's married. and i'm sure he found a way to handle that. did he deny that they were white?

i'm not saying there aren't reasons to criticize quincy jones and the things he says. i'm not trying to be an apologist, beyond saying that i think THAT PARTICULAR INTERVIEW posted on this thread read as a man's honest feelings and opinions. they may not be feelings or opinions some of us agree with, but i don't think he's bullshitting anybody with those comments, and i appreciate that. period.

now if you're saying that you feel that a person has issues with their own racial identity if they choose to have relationships with people outside their own race, then we have a problem, because that's just stinkin' thinkin'.

tamewar said:

and lisa marie...u can tell....tatiana to an extent as well

Debbie Rowe is fighting for custody.

Breaking News


http://www.tmz.com/2009/0.../#comments

President Obama on Michael Jackson:
A week after Michael Jackson's sudden and shocking death, President Obama has finally offered his thoughts, saying the pop icon will "go down in history as one of our greatest entertainers."
"I grew up on his music," said Obama, who, at 47, is three years younger than Jackson. "I still have all his stuff on my iPod."

But the president added in an interview Thursday with the Associated Press that he also felt that Jackson lived a "tragic and in many ways sad personal life."

Controversy

It stirred controversy in the news media - especially at predominantly African-American outlets - when Obama did not release a formal public statement upon Jackson's death last week, something typically done by the White House when a prominent public figure dies.

Instead, Obama quietly sent a private letter of condolence to the Jackson family, the contents of which neither side has disclosed.

Obama waved away any controversy over his weeklong silence, telling AP White House correspondent Jennifer Loven: "Look, you're the first person who's actually asked me about it."

http://www.people.com/peo...24,00.html

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

I think Tatiana was just a tour girl, who thought Mike loved her. He might have liked her, but she thought it was in a romantic way, while he loved her as a friend.

Stephanie Mills and Diana Ross I can believe.
[Edited 7/2/09 11:29am]

suga10 said:

i think he liked her...more than a friend way but it wasn't that serious.

Stephanie Mills talking about Michael Jackson...



She said she was a little too dark skinned for Michael.

I must admitt the Jackson's were kinda color struck!!!