japanrocks said: soul men?
oki doki so that includes white females too? seriously, bruh? I mean, come on... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Don't know if this has been posted:
Drs. Cornel West and Michael Eric Dyson speaking to Tavis Smiley about Michael, June 30, 2009 http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/p...8s2b61qa2d "You put water into a cup, it becomes the cup...Now water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend." - Bruce Lee
"Water can nourish me, but water can also carry me. Water has magic laws." - JCVD | |
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THE MICHAEL JACKSON STORY debuts on TV ONE July 26th. I knowthis will be good. PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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floetcist said: Someone here awhile ago made a video compilation of MJ dancing to this song I have no idea who sang, or what the title was, or even the lyrics (in other words, I'm shit for luck). It went something like...or it sounded like 's w one' over and over again, and in the beginning of the song they're counting '1...2...3...' Any idea? help??? White Americans, what? Nothing better to do? Why don't you kick yourself out? You're an immigrant too. -White Stripes | |
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babynoz said: Wow, a week already...
Sadly, but not surprisingly, the circus is in full effect for the forseeable future. I've watched and read a lot of the coverage and comments and I noticed one thing...with a few exceptions, there's hasn't been much in the way of balanced commentary. He's being remembered either as a saint or the devil incarnate...as usual, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, and we may never know all of it. A few thoughts... If I were Katherine Jackson the fans would be SOL. I'm sorry, but Mike gave and gave to his fans his whole life and I would be putting a stop to it right here and right now. I'd have a private service and burial and that would be it. Period. No Staples Center, (AEG), no Neverland, no interviews, no cameras, nada. Let people do and say whatever, because they're gonna do it anyway. I'd bury my child in peace and whoever didn't like it could kiss my butt. Anyone who wanted to have a memorial like they did at the Appollo could do so on their own. I would designate one representative to speak for the family and order the rest to shut up till my son was buried and the investigation is concluded...or else. As for Quincy Jones, he may very well have had some insight but I'm not convinced that he was any more of a friend to Mike than anyone else who worked closely with him. It wasn't so much what he said as the way he said it and his timing. At least let the man be laid to rest before you decide you gotta "keep it real". Why the rush? My thoughts about Joe Jackson are not fit to repeat in polite conversation. I'm no doctor but I doubt Mike could have pulled off those 50 shows without a hitch and I tend to believe the reports that he initially agreed to far less. AEG's attempts to fatten their golden goose failed tragically. I am not persuaded otherwise by the few moments of footage they released today either...that's called marketing for the upcoming dvd. AEG is owned by a "Limbaugh type" conservative and it shows in the fact that the company cares about nothing but their bottom line. I'm sick to death of people questioning how the President, Prince or any other public figure have chosen to respond. They are under no obligation whatsoever to do so and the more people that express their condolences privately to avoid this feeding frenzy, the better IMO. More than anything, as a fan from the early days it makes me sad to think how many vultures and opportunists basically contributed to the destruction of a very gifted, sensitive and troubled soul. I always held some small hope that Mike would get it together one day so he could depart this life at peace with himself. I don't pretend to know the extent of his issues and I wouldn't give a damn if he never performed another show, but I would like to have seen him healthy again. I feel for his loved ones and hope that somehow he's at peace finally. That was lovely. Like you I am mainly a fan of the very early days. There was nothing better than seeing Michael with his brothers and that how I will be remembering him, out front with his brothers with the biggest fro and that heart melting smile. I hope by Tuesday evening everything is over and there is closure for everyone and Michael can finally rest in peace. [Edited 7/2/09 22:38pm] | |
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serpan99 said: The only way I could try and accept the ticket selling is if the money goes 2 a good cause...but dayum?!
Fans To Be Charged $25 To Attend Michael Jackson's Memorial Service Los Angeles, CA (CNS) - Fans can now attend Michael Jackson's memorial service for only $25! The star-studded memorial service at the Staples Center in Los Angeles on Tuesday would reportedly charge fans for the event. RadarOnline.com has learned that the general public will be asked to pay $25 to sit in the stands, while the King of Pop's family and friends and other VIPs will sit on the main floor of the venue. To those who wish to attend will have their money's worth, however. The memorial service will reportedly feel like a concert production featuring guest speakers. Elizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross, two of the "Thriller" hitmaker's closest friends are expected to attend. There will be a lot of music and video screens inside and outside Staples. An elephant parade with circus performers will take place immediately after the service. His now-canceled "This Is It" tour t-shirts will be sold outside the venue for people who would enter the place. Michael Jackson's memorial service will be held from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. PST. http://www.allheadlinenew...%20Service [Edited 7/2/09 21:58pm] Really why not just slice him into thin little pieces and have Joe selling them roadside. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. | |
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Wow! Love the last 4 or 5 pages of this thread. To see a celebration of Michael's musical legacy is far more healing than getting wrapped up in the media circus. His music speaks for itself with far better than any commentary by someone canonizing or tearing him down.
Aside from celebrating the change in focus of this thread, I also want to clarify my earlier rant. I certainly didn't mean to say people shouldn't by new music or performances that be released, just that people should be careful not to support the same people/companies that are doing/saying such despicable things right now. | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: THE MICHAEL JACKSON STORY debuts on TV ONE July 26th. I knowthis will be good.
Don't tell me it's a movie, but a documentary "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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kalelvisj said: Wow! Love the last 4 or 5 pages of this thread. To see a celebration of Michael's musical legacy is far more healing than getting wrapped up in the media circus. His music speaks for itself with far better than any commentary by someone canonizing or tearing him down.
Aside from celebrating the change in focus of this thread, I also want to clarify my earlier rant. I certainly didn't mean to say people shouldn't by new music or performances that be released, just that people should be careful not to support the same people/companies that are doing/saying such despicable things right now. Yeah I did what Michael did or try to anyway: I made a change. | |
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Timmy84 said: kalelvisj said: Wow! Love the last 4 or 5 pages of this thread. To see a celebration of Michael's musical legacy is far more healing than getting wrapped up in the media circus. His music speaks for itself with far better than any commentary by someone canonizing or tearing him down.
Aside from celebrating the change in focus of this thread, I also want to clarify my earlier rant. I certainly didn't mean to say people shouldn't by new music or performances that be released, just that people should be careful not to support the same people/companies that are doing/saying such despicable things right now. Yeah I did what Michael did or try to anyway: I made a change. They say change is good! Too many papers to grade to watch it all right now...but soon! Thanks for all the great clips! | |
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kalelvisj said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I did what Michael did or try to anyway: I made a change. They say change is good! Too many papers to grade to watch it all right now...but soon! Thanks for all the great clips! You're welcome! | |
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rare- Bad Tour in Houston
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: rare- Bad Tour in Houston
My dad was there, unless he did more than one show here for that tour? PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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kalelvisj said: Timmy84 said: Yeah I did what Michael did or try to anyway: I made a change. They say change is good! Too many papers to grade to watch it all right now...but soon! Thanks for all the great clips! Yes change is good, and because of what I have seen over the last week I am changing my prospective on a certain thing. When MJ was alive I was one of those who felt he should grow up and take responsibility for his actions, instead of harping on about his father & his childhood. But with Joe recent actions I have come to realize that Joe completely stripped MJ of any childhood, he saw his son purely as a cash cow and for MJ to go through life knowing that is what he was even to his own father must have been heartbreaking. I still believe certain things could have been done differently , however I also understand clearly now why things ended up as they did. Sleep tight Michael. | |
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Timmy84 said: To this day one of my top 5 Mj jams! Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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lazycrockett said: serpan99 said: The only way I could try and accept the ticket selling is if the money goes 2 a good cause...but dayum?!
Fans To Be Charged $25 To Attend Michael Jackson's Memorial Service Los Angeles, CA (CNS) - Fans can now attend Michael Jackson's memorial service for only $25! The star-studded memorial service at the Staples Center in Los Angeles on Tuesday would reportedly charge fans for the event. RadarOnline.com has learned that the general public will be asked to pay $25 to sit in the stands, while the King of Pop's family and friends and other VIPs will sit on the main floor of the venue. To those who wish to attend will have their money's worth, however. The memorial service will reportedly feel like a concert production featuring guest speakers. Elizabeth Taylor and Diana Ross, two of the "Thriller" hitmaker's closest friends are expected to attend. There will be a lot of music and video screens inside and outside Staples. An elephant parade with circus performers will take place immediately after the service. His now-canceled "This Is It" tour t-shirts will be sold outside the venue for people who would enter the place. Michael Jackson's memorial service will be held from 10 a.m. to 12 p.m. PST. http://www.allheadlinenew...%20Service [Edited 7/2/09 21:58pm] Really why not just slice him into thin little pieces and have Joe selling them roadside. Music washes away from the soul the dust of everyday life. ~Berthold Auerbach | |
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Midnightmover said: Why do you think President Obama has made no direct statement about such a huge incident? The White House issued a perfunctory written statement, yet when Bob Hope died a few years ago, George Bush went on TV from the Oval Office and delivered a personal eulogy. There's been nothing like that for MJ. Why do you think that is? Not all of us can brush aside paedophilia as easy as you.... (from a follow up post) The point is Obama is not giving Jacko the treatment a legend of his magnitude would usually merit. The reason for that is obvious and I mention it simply to point out that I am not alone in my views. If I was, then Obama would be seen on television praising Mike in the same way that George Bush did with Bob Hope.
Jul 2 2009 3:24 PM EDT President Obama Remembers 'Music Icon' Michael Jackson 'I still have all his stuff on my iPod,' the president tells The Associated Press. By Jocelyn Vena On June 26, the day after Michael Jackson passed away, President Obama issued a statement on the singer's tragic death though his press agent. Now in a new interview with The Associated Press on Thursday (July 2), Obama is remembering the legendary pop star for everything he has contributed to the world of pop culture. "I'm glad to see that he is being remembered primarily for the great joy that he brought to a lot of people through his extraordinary gifts as an entertainer," he said, adding, "I still have all his stuff on my iPod." When news broke of the singer's death on June 25, a lot of people were wondering why the President didn't release a statement sooner. Obama didn't see why people felt it was controversial of him not to and he also commented on whether or not the African-American community felt dissatisfied with Jackson over the years. "I know a lot of people in the black community, and I haven't heard that," Obama told the AP. Jackson, whose career was marked by both incredible highs and tragic lows, has left an indelible mark on pop culture. "I think that Michael Jackson will go down in history as one of our greatest entertainers," Obama said. "His brilliance as a performer also was paired with a tragic and, in many ways, sad personal life." In a statement last week, Obama remembered Jackson as "a spectacular performer and a music icon," adding, "I think everybody remembers hearing his songs, watching him moonwalk on television during Motown's 25th anniversary." You can see vision of his interview here: http://www.mtv.com/news/a...hael.jhtml "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: bboy87 said: rare- Bad Tour in Houston
My dad was there, unless he did more than one show here for that tour? He did 3 shows in Houston: April 8th, 9th, and 10th "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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I miss you Michael! | |
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bboy87 said: LittleBLUECorvette said: My dad was there, unless he did more than one show here for that tour? He did 3 shows in Houston: April 8th, 9th, and 10th This is fu.... awsome! Hopefully this will make it to an Blu Ray! A friend of mine saw this tour in GEermany and SOT too, he said it was simply the best he ever experienced! | |
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The BAD tour was the first time I got to see Michael live. It was an amazing show, an artist in his true element.
Hopefully one day this tour will get a proper DVD release. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Swa said: The BAD tour was the first time I got to see Michael live. It was an amazing show, an artist in his true element.
Hopefully one day this tour will get a proper DVD release. Swa I really hope so too. I'd love to see a boxset of his tours from the Triumph tour to HIStory "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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This may sound crazy but I think Michael was murdered. Not intentionally. I honestly think that doctor gave him that sleeping medicine, whatever it is called that is not allowed to be adminstred unless by an iv. They said anyone who adminstered that by home method can be charged with manslaugter. | |
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Michael had so many yes men around him that never cared for him as we know so what makes us think that this doctor cared. | |
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BoOTyLiCioUs said: Michael had so many yes men around him that never cared for him as we know so what makes us think that this doctor cared.
Don't let the upset take you over. Foul play has already been ruled out. That we know. The rest post that is all speculation. Let's all wait and see what the results say. Swa "I'm not human I'm a dove, I'm ur conscience. I am love" | |
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Swa said: The BAD tour was the first time I got to see Michael live. It was an amazing show, an artist in his true element.
Hopefully one day this tour will get a proper DVD release. Swa i wish i would of been able to see him in concert. I had tickets to see him at the o2. | |
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I don't know if I've posted this already...
http://www.metro.us/us/ar.../index.xml INTERVIEW. Seth Riggs was a friend and a teacher of Michael Jackson for 21 years. Riggs saw Michael in both bad and good times. Riggs opened up about some of Jackson’s secrets to Metro. Q: You were in Russia when you learned of Michael’s death? A: Yes, and my first thought was, I need to come back to London immediately. It was very strange feeling. I saw Mike just three months ago. He was feeling good. No complaints. Q: Did you talk to his relatives? A: A lot of his friends were mine, too. It’s our tragedy. As soon as I knew about his death, I grabbed my phone. I felt that I needed to call everybody who cared about him, who loved him as much as I do. Q: What do you think was the real reason for his death? A: Mike was killed! It was a real murder. Look, his doctor ran away. If there were no doctors around him, he would be OK! He shouldn’t have died! Q: Had he ever thought about death? A: You know, there was one moment. I was playing a piano, and he was standing next to me. All of a sudden, he stretched his hands, looking upwards. It seemed to me that it was very important to him. That’s why I left the room and switched the light off. After half an hour I came back to the room. He was whispering: “Thank you for my talent. Thank you for everything I’ve got. Thank you for all the people who love me. Tell me what I should do, and I’ll do it.” It seemed to me that it was the moment of his communication with God. "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Swa said: BoOTyLiCioUs said: Michael had so many yes men around him that never cared for him as we know so what makes us think that this doctor cared.
Don't let the upset take you over. Foul play has already been ruled out. That we know. The rest post that is all speculation. Let's all wait and see what the results say. Swa they also said that about marilyn monroe. I believe marilyn monroe was murdered....she knew too much. I know that but I believe that michael was murdered not intentionly....meaning he was adminstered that drug that wasn't supposed to be for in home use. I just have a feeling. | |
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The one thing that hasn't really been touched on and why I think Michael's family decided to have a public memorial for him. As I've been hearing and seeing so, so many things about Michael the one constant besides the music was his love for his fans. It seems to me that he really did love his fans and not in that "I love you, just keep spending your money on me." kind of way either. I think it was truly genuine. One prime example of that is that he'd give handwritten love notes to fans camped out at his hotels. Sure it's not a grand gesture or anything but to me for him to take just a moment and do that himself and not get any of his flunkies says a lot about how much he really appreciated his fans.
"I truly love all of you; I am recording tonight, for all of you, you are my true inspiration forever. I am living for you, and the children. Be alive, be free, feel consciousness, subconscious, being God. I love you. M. Jackson and Family." "You make me sooo happy. I can feel your energy through the walls. The sky is the limit. Higher consciousness always. Working hard, as always. Music, film, performance. I love you. Michael Jackson." I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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