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Reply #420 posted 07/02/09 7:17pm

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touched
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Reply #421 posted 07/02/09 7:18pm

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Swa said:

Timmy84 said:

My favorite J5 song ever:


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Interesting side note - Michael went on to record backing vocals on a Stevie Wonder track of the same name "All I do (is think about you)"

Swa


nod Alongside Eddie Levert, Walter Williams (both of the O'Jays) and Betty Wright.
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Reply #422 posted 07/02/09 7:21pm

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Reply #423 posted 07/02/09 7:23pm

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Michael Jackson Left 'Endless' Supply Of Unreleased Music



July 02, 2009 11:39 AM ET

Michael Jackson had a mountain of unreleased recordings in the vault when he died — music that is almost certain to be packaged and repackaged for his fans in the years to come.

The material includes unused tracks from studio sessions of some of Jackson's best albums, as well as more recently recorded songs made with Senegalese R&B singer and producer Akon and Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am.

Billboard's Full continuing Michael Jackson coverage, including video, charts and more.

"There are dozens and dozens of songs that did not end up on his albums," said Tommy Mottola, who from 1998 to 2003 was chairman and CEO of Sony Music, which owns the distribution rights to Jackson's music. "People will be hearing a lot of that unreleased material for the first time ever. There's just some genius and brilliance in there."

The releases, Mottola said, "could go on for years and years — even more than Elvis."

Since Jackson's death Thursday, there has been an enormous, almost unprecedented demand for the King of Pop's music. Nielsen SoundScan said Wednesday that three of his records — "Number Ones," "Essential Michael Jackson" and "Thriller — were the best-selling albums of the week, and 2.3 million tracks of his have been downloaded in the U.S. alone.

When a music star of Jackson's stature dies, labels typically comb through their archives to pull out anything they can release. New compilations of recordings by performers such as Elvis, Tupac and Jeff Buckley are still released nearly every year.


Mottola, who has described himself as the "shepherd and gatekeeper" of Jackson's catalog and is familiar with it better than anyone, said that for every album Jackson made — including classics like 1979's "Off the Wall" and 1982's "Thriller" — he recorded several tracks that didn't make it onto the records.

(Mottola had only laudatory things to say about Jackson, who criticized Mottola in 2002 as a racist. Among those who defended Mottola at the time was the Rev. Al Sharpton.)

The details of who owns Jackson's unreleased music and concert footage are not entirely clear. Sony Music declined to comment. A person involved with the label who requested anonymity said no new projects or compilations are being planned yet.

The Jackson family has not publicly discussed plans for Jackson's catalog. In a 2002 will filed in court Wednesday, the pop star left his entire estate to a family trust, with his mother and his children named as beneficiaries.

Steve Gordon, an entertainment lawyer and author of "The Future of the Music Business," worked at Sony Music during the 1990s. He said he was at Sony when Jackson's last contract was negotiated, though he acknowledged it could have recently been updated.

Gordon said Jackson owns some of his master recordings, while others are owned in partnership with Sony. Regardless, he said, Sony retains exclusive distribution rights for anything Jackson produced during the term of their contract.

Gordon said he expects Sony's Legacy Recordings division to do something similar to what it did with Elvis and create a division purely for Jackson's catalog.

"They've done every kind of configuration to try to squeeze more money out of the catalog with Elvis and they'll do it with Michael Jackson — be sure of it," Gordon said. "I imagine that there's a ... load of concert recordings that may or may not have been released."

Jackson's last original album was 2001's "Invincible." His 2005 child molestation trial and other controversies distracted him from recording, but he was active in recent years.

He died just weeks before he was to perform 50 concerts at London's O2 arena in what was supposed to be his comeback. He had also begun working on new material.

Two weeks before he died, he wrapped up work on an elaborate production dubbed the "Dome Project," which could be the final finished video piece overseen by Jackson. Two people with knowledge of the project confirmed its existence Monday to The Associated Press on condition they not be identified because they signed confidentiality agreements.

Four sets were constructed for Jackson's production, including a cemetery recalling his famous "Thriller" video. Shooting for the project lasted from June 1 to June 9. Now in post-production, the project is expected to be completed next month.

Last year, Jackson released "Thriller 25," an album marking the 25th anniversary of the album. It included the new song "For All Time," as well as five remixes that involved will.i.am, Kanye West, Akon and Fergie.

The Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am has said he and Jackson recorded several songs together. He told the BBC on Monday that Jackson had possession of their demos, and that the songs "demanded all the people to the dance floor."
Akon had hoped to complete an album with Jackson once he finished his London concerts. The singer said they used to meet in Las Vegas whenever they had the time, and would talk on the phone constantly about ideas for the album.

Akon said they never actually completed a song except for "Hold My Hand," which leaked last year. "All the other songs were just ideas," Akon said.

He said he will keep the song fragments — a chorus here, a verse there — "locked up in the vault" until the Jackson family decides how to proceed. He said it could be worked into a tribute album.

"It was all positive records — songs to uplift people, songs to make people think about the problems in life," Akon said. "It was all about bringing people together."


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I don't want you to think like me. I just want you to think.
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Reply #424 posted 07/02/09 7:24pm

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Image from the patent filed by Michael Jackson to describe the method of leaning beyond the centre of gravity, as seen in the pop video "Smooth Criminal". Date Patent filed on October 26 1993.


Abstract of US 5255452 (A)



A system for allowing a shoe wearer to lean forwardly beyond his center of gravity by virtue of wearing a specially designed pair of shoes which will engage with a hitch member movably projectable through a stage surface. The shoes have a specially designed heel slot which can be detachably engaged with the hitch member by simply sliding the shoe wearer's foot forward, thereby engaging with the hitch member.


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Reply #425 posted 07/02/09 7:30pm

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If I'm gonna buy a DVD, somebody better put together a DVD for this fucking tour! cool
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Reply #426 posted 07/02/09 7:33pm

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Live at the Rainbow Theater in London, 1979
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Reply #427 posted 07/02/09 7:38pm

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Timmy84 said:

Technically this song could be a Michael Jackson solo joint:


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Yes it is. I can remember this song as a freshman in high school. We used
to jam to this on the way home from school. It was a prelude to Thriller.
He did all the vocals on Heartbreak Hotel. If you listen to the Victory
album, Be Not Always and State of Shock can be considered MJ solo songs
as well. I remember right before the release of Victory, MJ spoke of Be Not
Always and how the song would always make him cry.
Let me add for someone brings it up. lol
I know State of Shock is a duet with Mick Jagger but i'm calling it
a MJ solo record because although it was on the Jacksons album i'm
willing to bet the other brothers had no involvement in this record.
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This funk is a serious joint
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If I'm gonna buy a DVD, somebody better put together a DVD for this fucking tour! cool

lol exactly
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Reply #429 posted 07/02/09 7:41pm

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I worked with Michael on many occasions...first in 1979 shortly following the release of "Off The Wall", which was recorded at my old studio, Image Recording, when it was owned by its former owner, Allen Zentz.

I then spent some time in 1980 (or 81?) with Michael recording demo's for Thriller. This was great, because it was just the two of us and whoever Michael had coming in. "John, we have Jonathan Moffit coming at12:00, then Greg Phillinganes at 1:00...oh, and we're recording strings at 4:00 !". Wow, what a great experience working so closely with him. I had him on the mic for some days recording vocals, and it was an amazing experience...he would be dancing up a storm while singing and doing all of those "grunts, oohs, ahhs" vocal sounds that would pepper his tracks. He asked me to take up the carpet so he could dance, and in between takes, he would sing other popular songs of the day just freestyle and acapella and we would talk about the music we liked.

Over the next year or two, I hosted the Jacksons many times, recording various tracks, claps (we had a jacuzzi room which they loved to use for the massive white-noise claps that people liked back then). I got to know all the brothers.

Bruce Swedien came back to Image Recording to record a song (or two?) for the Jackson's "Victory" record in about 1983. Another great experience, as Bruce did (as I recall) a string quartet and (perhaps) Michael's vocal at the same time. Bruce IS the best of all time, by the way. BEST.

I believe there were a couple of sundry Jacksons sessions over the next couple of years, but by that time, Michael was hugely popular and I didn't see him as much. The next time was really in 1995, when Robmix and I worked on the HIStory album. Rob worked on this for quite a long time (2 years?), while I worked on it for a few months. We were all holed up in Larrabee North, where Bruce had a room (or were you guys at Record One, Rob?)...Eddie Delena was recording quite a lot Michael's vocals at Larrabee in one room, and I was put in another room to engineer for whomever needed it...my most memorable session being some days with Dallas Austin and on one day, recording The Notorious B.I.G. for his rap on "This Time Around". There I was, standing in a room with Dallas, Biggie and Michael. I'll never forget it.

The final days of that album were made interesting, by Bruce giving me the task to sequence the album and edit it down to a size that we could fit onto a CD. This was no small undertaking, as about 7 minutes needed to be trimmed somewhere. I laid this all out in Sound Tools and came to know every bar of every song very intimately. I found places where songs could be tightened up and came up with many suggestions. On the night of mastering, I was put in a room at Bernie Grundman's with my Sound Tools rig, and in this room, I would have to "negotiate" with Michael about what to take out. I'll never forget this night...Michael came in, and Bruce told MJ that we would have to remove either 1) one whole song or 2) edit the others to fit onto a CD. We chose the latter...I started with song one and played Michael my edits, "Oh no, we can't take THAT out...it's my favorite part of the album!". OK. Let's try another, "Oh no, we MUST keep those four bars". OK...let's go to the vamp, which carries on for two minutes...how about removing these eight bars, "Oh no, that's my favorite part of the vamp!". Well, you get the picture. Meanwhile, Jimmy Jam was in with us, telling Michael that all these edits were killer and actually make things better. And over the course of about 5 hours, we got it down. By this time, it was probably 3:00am, and I was wiped out. Bruce walked in..."Okay, John, I want you to make all these edits on the 1/2" masters right now!". My first thought was, "You've GOT to be kidding!" I had used some crossfades in Tools and such, plus I was worn out from "bartering" with Michael. But, into Bernie's room we went, and with Bruce over my shoulder, I cut the1/2 " tapes. As I recall, this took a couple of hours, and we were done. By the way, video footage of my "bartering session" with Michael exists, although I was never able to get a copy. Perhaps someday!

After that album's completion, we were all invited to The Neverland Ranch with spouses and kids for a day of fun, with Michael as our host. What a memorable day that I will recount in another post...my arms hurt now!


I was fortunate enough to work with MJ early in my career. He was an incredible artist. Talented beyond your wildest dreams. Extremely generous, and a hard worker. I actually went from a staff assistant at the Hit Factory in NYC to freelance engineer under Swedien and MJ. They were due to start in Los Angeles when the Northridge earthquake hit so they moved to New York. One room was all Bruce, the second room was the writing room. I started assisting Bruce's writing partner Rene Moore. I would track stuff with Rene, and Bruce would come in and tell me what I did wrong, sit in for a few hours and set us straight. After a couple months MJ arrived and the entire tour rig was moved in along with Brad Buxer, Andrew Scheps, and Eddie Delena. I continued to assist them until the whole crew moved to L.A., they decided to take me with them. I would assist Bruce during the day, and help out every where else at night - assisting, engineering, programming, and on one song playing guitar. We had two rooms at Record One, and two rooms at Larrabee where I met John. At one point in NYC we had just about every room at the Hit Factory. The crew was great, and I learned so much from all of them. I learned to engineer from Bruce Swedien, John, and Eddie, and got to sit in with producers like MJ, Jam And Lewis, Babyface, David Foster, Teddy Riley, and Dallas Austin.

I was actually asked to leave the project early on because there were too many people around and MJ didn't know me. Luckily, I was rehired about 10 days later. At the wrap party MJ apologized profusely, and expressed his gratitude. Truly the most sincere man you will ever meet.

Some random memories:


One morning MJ came in with a new song he had written overnight. We called in a guitar player, and Michael sang every note of every chord to him. "here's the first chord first note, second note, third note. Here's the second chord first note, second note, third note", etc., etc. We then witnessed him giving the most heartfelt and profound vocal performance, live in the control room through an SM57.

He would sing us an entire string arrangement, every part. Steve Porcaro once told me he witnessed MJ doing that with the string section in the room. Had it all in his head, harmony and everything. Not just little eight bar loop ideas. he would actually sing the entire arrangement into a micro-cassette recorder complete with stops and fills.

At one point Michael was angry at one of the producers on the project because he was treating everyone terribly. Rather than create a scene or fire the guy, Michael called him to his office/lounge and one of the security guys threw a pie in his face. No further action was needed . . . . .

During the recording of "Smile" on HIStory, Bruce thought it would be great if Michael would sing live with the orchestra. But of course, we didn't tell the players that. We set him up in a vocal booth off to the side. They rehearsed a bit without vocals in, then during the first take Michael sang, just about knocked them out of their chairs.

His beatboxing was without parallel, and his time was ridiculous.

His sense of harmony was incredible. Never a bad note, no tuning, even his breathing was perfectly in time.

Once, while we were taking a break, I think we were actually watching the OJ chase on TV, there was a news program talking about him being in Europe with some little boy. I was sitting next to the guy while the news is making this crap up. He just looked at me and said this is what I have to deal with.

I spent close to 3 years working with him, and not once did I question his morals, or ever believe any of the allegations. I wasn't even a fan then. I saw him interact with his brothers kids, other people's children, and at one point my own girlfriend's kids. I got to spend a day at Neverland with them. A completely incredible human being, always looking for a way to make all children's lives better. Every weekend at Neverland was donated to a different children's group - children with AIDS, children cancer, etc., and most of the time he wasn't there.

He was simply living the childhood he never had. In many ways he never grew up.

I was assisting Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis while they recorded the background vocals for "Scream" with MJ and Janet. The two of them singing together was amazing. Super tight, no bad notes. One part after another. When they took a break they sang the showtunes they used to sing as kids. Again, perfect harmony. Mj refused to sing the "stop f*ckin' with me part" because he would NOT curse.

I was the tape op for the recording of the background vocals on "Stranger in Moscow". Scared the hell out me. Michael was dropping in and out on syllables, rearranging the notes and timing as he put it down. No Pro Tools at the time, just 2" tape, and my punches.

I erased a live keyboard overdub that he played one night. He came in the next morning, replaced it, and never uttered another word about it.

I was there when Lisa Marie was around. They acted like two kids in love. Held hands all the time, and she hung out at the studio for quite a while. I never questioned their love for each other.

We recorded a Christmas song during the summer of '94 that needed a children's choir. Michael insisted that the entire studio be decorated with xmas lights, tree, fake snow and a sled for their recording. And he bought presents for everyone.

The last weekend of recording on HIStory he came to me and Eddie Delena, and said "I'm sorry, but I don't think any of us are going to sleep this weekend. There's a lot to get done, and we have to go to Bernie on Monday morning". He stayed at the studio the entire time, singing, and mixing. I got to spend a couple quiet moments with him during that time. We talked about John Lennon one night as he was gearing up to sing the last vocal of the record - the huge ad libs at the end of "earth song". I told him the story of John singing "twist and shout" while being sick, and though most people think he was screaming for effect, it was actually his voice giving out. He loved it, and then went in to sing his heart out. . . .

Later that night, while mixing, everyone left the room so MJ could turn it up. This was a common occurrence during the mixes, and I was left in the room with ear plugs, and hands over my ears, in case he needed something. This particular night, all the lights were out and we noticed some blue flashes intermittently lighting up the room during playback. After a few moments we could see that one of the speakers (custom quad augspuergers) was shooting blue flames. Mj liked this and proceeded to push all the faders up . . . .

MJ liked hot water while he was singing. I mean really hot !!!!! It got to the point that I would melt plastic spoons to test it.

Bruce and I were talking about walking to the studio everyday in NYC, and what routes we took. Michael looked at us and said we were so lucky to be able to do that. He couldn't walk down the street without being harassed. It was a sad moment for all of us.

The studio crew got free tickets to the Janet show so we all went right from work one night. About halfway through the show we see this dude with a long beard, dressed in robes dancing in the aisle behind. I mean really dancing . . . it was Mj in disguise. Kind of like the costume Chevy Chase wears in Fletch while roller skating.

He got one of the first playstations from sony in his lounge . . . we snuck in late at night to play the games that hadn't been released yet.

A couple people on the session hadn't seen Jurassic Park while it was out, so MJ arranged a private screening for us at Sony.

He was a huge fan of Nine Inch Nails Downward Spiral . . . .

I was lucky enough over the course of 3 years to have access to the multitrack masters for tour prep, videos, and archive purposes. To be able to pull these tracks apart was a huge lesson in production, and songwriting. A chance to look into the minds of geniuses.

Of all the records I've worked on, MJJ was the only company to give platinum award records.

One day we just all sat in the studio listening to his catalog with him for inspiration. He loved the process, he loved the work.


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By the way, to elaborate a bit on the Notorious B.I.G. session, it was kinda like this. Michael used to call people to ask them to participate on albums. It was interesting knowing that nearly anyone on the planet would come to the phone if it were Michael calling. Anyway, I heard rumors that B.I.G. was going to come, and I was excited about that! I knew that I would be the one to record that, as I had recorded nearly all of that tune, "This Time Around".

So, Dallas and I were expecting him any minute, and pretty much on time, Notorious strolls in. He was quite an imposing figure when he walked in, as he was quite popular at the time. I had no idea what to expect from him in terms of attitude, but he seemed nice when he walked in. No problem. But almost immediately, he blurted out, "Yo, Dallas, can I meet Mike?" To which, Dallas replied that he thought so. Biggie went on to talk about how much this opportunity meant to him, as Michael was his hero. Anyway, Dallas tells him that we're going to lay down the rap first, so Biggie heads in the booth, we get some headphone levels and get ready to start recording.

So, we hit the big red button (on a Sony 3348 machine), and away we go. During his first take, Dallas and I looked at each other, because it was spot on. wow. I was impressed, and so was Dallas. We listened back, and Dallas was like, "Wow, I think we got it". As I recall, we took another take for good measure, but I'm fairly certain that we ended up using the first take. So, Notorious comes in, and asks if he can meet Michael now. We sent word to the back room where Michael was working that Biggie was finished and wanted to meet him.

Simply for security, Michael's security would enter and make sure that no one was in the room that shouldn't be, and once that was confirmed (it was just me, Biggie and Dallas), Michael came in. Biggie nearly broke out in tears...I could tell how much this meant to him. Well, Michael could have this effect on anyone, even the most hardcore rappers! Biggie was tripping up on his words, bowing down and telling Michael how much his music had meant to him in his life. Michael was, as always, very humble and kept smiling while Biggie just went on and on how much he loved Michael. I watched Biggie just become this big butterball of a man, and it was really very sweet to witness. After all, we are all just people.

Michael finally asked to hear what we had done, and we popped it up on the big speakers and let her go. Michael LOVED it and was excited to tell Biggie that! "Oh, let's hear it again", I recall Michael saying, and we listened again. Michael just loved it...and thanked Biggie for coming all the way from Philadelphia. Biggie asked rather sheepishly whether he could get a photo, and Michael agreed. A shot was taken, we listened again, and Michael thanked Biggie. Michael said goodbye and stepped out, leaving Biggie standing there looking completely stunned.

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It was amazing how he'd come in with some song he liked and want to capture something about it - the energy, the tone, the mood.

He was really into "Owner of a Lonely Heart" too. So when Yes came to town, I made sure everyone knew it, and we got Trevor Rabin to come down and play some stuff on "They Don't Care About Us".

That was one of the really fun parts about working with MJ. You could call anyone and get them down there. We needed a funk guitar player, and some names were being tossed about. I finally said, hey what about Nile Rogers. Michael was excited for that because they had toured together in the 70's. Of course Nile played some of the funkiest sh*t ever . . . . however, Michael had a very specific part in mind for the song "Money". BTW, strat into a DI, into the SSL, straight to tape. Nothing else.

Slash came over for a couple tracks. Interestingly, there was no alcohol, drugs or cigarettes on the session at all. Only one crew member smoked and he had to go outside to do it. But when Slash came MJ knew it was part of his thing. He said "let him have is alcohol, cigarettes, whatever it takes"

So we setup in another room at the Hit Factory, and Slash had his people send over the list. Jack, vodka, mixers, and marlboro's. The drink of the day was Jack and coffee if I recall correctly . . . . Can't remember which Marshall head, but it was a4x12 marshall cab with B&K 4006's into the HF's 8078 to 2", later comp'ed and bounced to the 3348.

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Michael and Bruce were both nostalgic, and maybe a bit superstitious. We needed to add choir to a couple songs while we were in L.A., so they immediately said it had to be recorded at Westlake D, where "Man in the Mirror" was recorded. Bruce sent me over there with his prized M49's. Everyone on the session was like" he know he's never let them out of his sight, and no one has ever put them up or taken them down but him". Yes, I was scared . . . . . Unfortunately, they crapped out on us halfway through the session, and we had to switch to C12's. But both sets of mics were put through Bruce's 1084's. No compression of course to 2" tape. We always set up Andre Crouche's choir in a circle, the mics in the center in omni. I think Bruce has detailed his choir setup on GS before.
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Reply #431 posted 07/02/09 7:47pm

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His tours in the 1970s and early 1980s were more spontaneous than the later solo tours.
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Reply #432 posted 07/02/09 7:52pm

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Reply #433 posted 07/02/09 7:52pm

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Wow, a week already...

Sadly, but not surprisingly, the circus is in full effect for the forseeable future. I've watched and read a lot of the coverage and comments and I noticed one thing...with a few exceptions, there's hasn't been much in the way of balanced commentary. He's being remembered either as a saint or the devil incarnate...as usual, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, and we may never know all of it. A few thoughts...

If I were Katherine Jackson the fans would be SOL. I'm sorry, but Mike gave and gave to his fans his whole life and I would be putting a stop to it right here and right now. I'd have a private service and burial and that would be it. Period. No Staples Center, (AEG), no Neverland, no interviews, no cameras, nada. Let people do and say whatever, because they're gonna do it anyway. I'd bury my child in peace and whoever didn't like it could kiss my butt. Anyone who wanted to have a memorial like they did at the Appollo could do so on their own. I would designate one representative to speak for the family and order the rest to shut up till my son was buried and the investigation is concluded...or else.

As for Quincy Jones, he may very well have had some insight but I'm not convinced that he was any more of a friend to Mike than anyone else who worked closely with him. It wasn't so much what he said as the way he said it and his timing. At least let the man be laid to rest before you decide you gotta "keep it real". Why the rush?

My thoughts about Joe Jackson are not fit to repeat in polite conversation.

I'm no doctor but I doubt Mike could have pulled off those 50 shows without a hitch and I tend to believe the reports that he initially agreed to far less. AEG's attempts to fatten their golden goose failed tragically. I am not persuaded otherwise by the few moments of footage they released today either...that's called marketing for the upcoming dvd. AEG is owned by a "Limbaugh type" conservative and it shows in the fact that the company cares about nothing but their bottom line.

I'm sick to death of people questioning how the President, Prince or any other public figure have chosen to respond. They are under no obligation whatsoever to do so and the more people that express their condolences privately to avoid this feeding frenzy, the better IMO.

More than anything, as a fan from the early days it makes me sad to think how many vultures and opportunists basically contributed to the destruction of a very gifted, sensitive and troubled soul. I always held some small hope that Mike would get it together one day so he could depart this life at peace with himself. I don't pretend to know the extent of his issues and I wouldn't give a damn if he never performed another show, but I would like to have seen him healthy again.

I feel for his loved ones and hope that somehow he's at peace finally.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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Tim I was just watching the Triumph tour. Amazing.

HALP!

Someone here awhile ago made a video compilation of MJ dancing to this song I have no idea who sang, or what the title was, or even the lyrics (in other words, I'm shit for luck).

It went something like...or it sounded like 's w one' over and over again, and in the beginning of the song they're counting '1...2...3...'

Any idea? eek
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Thanks to Timmy and others for the nice videos. I like remembering Mike with his brothers most of all.

I hope AEG goes bankrupt.
Prince, in you I found a kindred spirit...Rest In Paradise.
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babynoz said:

My thoughts about Joe Jackson are not fit to repeat in polite conversation.


evillol
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #439 posted 07/02/09 8:06pm

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dancing jig
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I know it's been a week already, but it still just don't sound right . neutral



Just beautiful.



His first released composition.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #442 posted 07/02/09 8:14pm

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babynoz said:

Wow, a week already...

Sadly, but not surprisingly, the circus is in full effect for the forseeable future. I've watched and read a lot of the coverage and comments and I noticed one thing...with a few exceptions, there's hasn't been much in the way of balanced commentary. He's being remembered either as a saint or the devil incarnate...as usual, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, and we may never know all of it. A few thoughts...

If I were Katherine Jackson the fans would be SOL. I'm sorry, but Mike gave and gave to his fans his whole life and I would be putting a stop to it right here and right now. I'd have a private service and burial and that would be it. Period. No Staples Center, (AEG), no Neverland, no interviews, no cameras, nada. Let people do and say whatever, because they're gonna do it anyway. I'd bury my child in peace and whoever didn't like it could kiss my butt. Anyone who wanted to have a memorial like they did at the Appollo could do so on their own. I would designate one representative to speak for the family and order the rest to shut up till my son was buried and the investigation is concluded...or else.

As for Quincy Jones, he may very well have had some insight but I'm not convinced that he was any more of a friend to Mike than anyone else who worked closely with him. It wasn't so much what he said as the way he said it and his timing. At least let the man be laid to rest before you decide you gotta "keep it real". Why the rush?

My thoughts about Joe Jackson are not fit to repeat in polite conversation.

I'm no doctor but I doubt Mike could have pulled off those 50 shows without a hitch and I tend to believe the reports that he initially agreed to far less. AEG's attempts to fatten their golden goose failed tragically. I am not persuaded otherwise by the few moments of footage they released today either...that's called marketing for the upcoming dvd. AEG is owned by a "Limbaugh type" conservative and it shows in the fact that the company cares about nothing but their bottom line.

I'm sick to death of people questioning how the President, Prince or any other public figure have chosen to respond. They are under no obligation whatsoever to do so and the more people that express their condolences privately to avoid this feeding frenzy, the better IMO.

More than anything, as a fan from the early days it makes me sad to think how many vultures and opportunists basically contributed to the destruction of a very gifted, sensitive and troubled soul. I always held some small hope that Mike would get it together one day so he could depart this life at peace with himself. I don't pretend to know the extent of his issues and I wouldn't give a damn if he never performed another show, but I would like to have seen him healthy again.

I feel for his loved ones and hope that somehow he's at peace finally.


Very well said! clapping
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Reply #443 posted 07/02/09 8:14pm

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Reply #444 posted 07/02/09 8:19pm

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Timmy84 said:

Technically this song could be a Michael Jackson solo joint:


[Edited 7/2/09 19:10pm]


Yes it is. I can remember this song as a freshman in high school. We used
to jam to this on the way home from school. It was a prelude to Thriller.
He did all the vocals on Heartbreak Hotel. If you listen to the Victory
album, Be Not Always and State of Shock can be considered MJ solo songs
as well. I remember right before the release of Victory, MJ spoke of Be Not
Always and how the song would always make him cry.
Let me add for someone brings it up. lol
I know State of Shock is a duet with Mick Jagger but i'm calling it
a MJ solo record because although it was on the Jacksons album i'm
willing to bet the other brothers had no involvement in this record.
[Edited 7/2/09 19:41pm]

Can you or someone download "State of Shock"? Thanks smile
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Reply #445 posted 07/02/09 8:20pm

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Hope this works. This was written and performed by a editor for a news station. I think it's a beautiful tribute,but looking at all the people totally devastated makes me start crying again. sad

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@LBC, "Blues Away" is the BUSINESS. cool
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Reply #447 posted 07/02/09 8:24pm

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Reply #448 posted 07/02/09 8:25pm

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babynoz said:

Wow, a week already...

Sadly, but not surprisingly, the circus is in full effect for the forseeable future. I've watched and read a lot of the coverage and comments and I noticed one thing...with a few exceptions, there's hasn't been much in the way of balanced commentary. He's being remembered either as a saint or the devil incarnate...as usual, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, and we may never know all of it. A few thoughts...

If I were Katherine Jackson the fans would be SOL. I'm sorry, but Mike gave and gave to his fans his whole life and I would be putting a stop to it right here and right now. I'd have a private service and burial and that would be it. Period. No Staples Center, (AEG), no Neverland, no interviews, no cameras, nada. Let people do and say whatever, because they're gonna do it anyway. I'd bury my child in peace and whoever didn't like it could kiss my butt. Anyone who wanted to have a memorial like they did at the Appollo could do so on their own. I would designate one representative to speak for the family and order the rest to shut up till my son was buried and the investigation is concluded...or else.

As for Quincy Jones, he may very well have had some insight but I'm not convinced that he was any more of a friend to Mike than anyone else who worked closely with him. It wasn't so much what he said as the way he said it and his timing. At least let the man be laid to rest before you decide you gotta "keep it real". Why the rush?

My thoughts about Joe Jackson are not fit to repeat in polite conversation.

I'm no doctor but I doubt Mike could have pulled off those 50 shows without a hitch and I tend to believe the reports that he initially agreed to far less. AEG's attempts to fatten their golden goose failed tragically. I am not persuaded otherwise by the few moments of footage they released today either...that's called marketing for the upcoming dvd. AEG is owned by a "Limbaugh type" conservative and it shows in the fact that the company cares about nothing but their bottom line.

I'm sick to death of people questioning how the President, Prince or any other public figure have chosen to respond. They are under no obligation whatsoever to do so and the more people that express their condolences privately to avoid this feeding frenzy, the better IMO.

More than anything, as a fan from the early days it makes me sad to think how many vultures and opportunists basically contributed to the destruction of a very gifted, sensitive and troubled soul. I always held some small hope that Mike would get it together one day so he could depart this life at peace with himself. I don't pretend to know the extent of his issues and I wouldn't give a damn if he never performed another show, but I would like to have seen him healthy again.

I feel for his loved ones and hope that somehow he's at peace finally.


And as another fan from the early days, I completely co-sign. clapping
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Love Lil Mike. sad
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