lazycrockett said: Timmy84 said: You know? And you know something else that has me mad: people trying to "confirm" that he was 100% healthy. Now looking back, I think he wasn't at all well (hell he probably didn't know himself). Well then throw in the fact that he DIDNT know the exact address, the house had no landlines, and seemed no one else was around till he ran down and told the chef to get security who then made the 911 call. Strange. Yes that's VERY weird. | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: I really starting liking Nancy when she went after Paris Hilton with both barrels. She wanted to see that little goodie two shoes princess locked up and so did I. When that sherriff let Paris go home and be on house arrest, Nancy had her people outside the gates of her mansion filming the caterers bringing pink cupcakes to the mansion. The public raised so much hell, that they hauled that little bitch off to jail the very next day kicking and screaming. And then, after she was locked up, Nancy herself was out in the grass outside the prison with her hair blowing in the wind filming a story on it. I said then, this is a bitch! I love her! I didn't know the bitch did that. It was real windy out there that day and that bitch's blonde hair was blowing in the wind like one of those models in a photo shoot that have a fan blowing their hair. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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optimus said: Will.I.Am talks MJ & Prince
----- It's from a German magazine. He played with Prince on stage and watched the rest of the show with MJ Here is the translation I found: Quote: Sp: You've also worked with Prince? The man has shocked the recording industry, by giving away his new CD in Great Britain for free with a newspaper. Will.i.am: A visionaire. I performed with him. A few months ago,I was with the Black Eyed Peas in Las Vegas. Prince calls me, he played in a Casino and asks ", you want to perform with me tonight?" Sure, I say, of course! On the next day his assistant called me and said: "Prince would like to know if you want to come along this evening too." Want to? What's more cool than to play with Prince? Right, to play with him two days in a row! A few minutes later I get a further call: "Hey, it's Mike, wat are you doing?" Mike? Michael Jackson? Wow! He had changed studios at that time, from Ireland to Las Vegas. I say: "Hey, I'm playing with Prince here tonight." - "Prince? That is great!" - "you should come!" - "really? That would be cool!" - "that would be really cool!" - "Okay, I'll come." Imagine that : I'm playing with Prince, and Michael Jackson sits in the audience! Holy ish! What chance is there to get a call from Prince and then one from Michael Jackson within ten minutes ? Sp: that chance is zero. Will.i.am: Right. Okay, I head for the concert in the early evening and - get stuck in traffic! I think by myself, @#$%, this is the worst time to be stuck ! So I jump out of the car and start to run. I make it at the last second into the club. Everything goes smoothly, after three minutes I 'm back from the stage, Prince still yells in the microphone "Give it up for Will.i.am!", I creep into the hall and sit down to the table of - Michael Jackson. So he really came! "What did you think of me?", I ask him. He answers: "I did not know that you rapped." Now I ask you? The man lets me fly to bloody Ireland for a few photographs , and he doesn't even know that I am not only a producer, but also a rapper! I say: "Have you never heard my music, or looked at my videos? I @#$#%' am the main rapper of the Black Eyed Peas!" Anyways. Besides Michael Jackson sits the actor Chris Tucker, and then Prince comes down from the stage to us... Sp: ... and sees Michael Jackson sitting at the table with you? Will.i.am: Yo. He had his bass still strapped on and stops at our table. So there we sit : Michael Jackson, Chris Tucker and I. Prince stands directly before Michael Jackson and improvises on the bass: Slap! He does nothing- nothing! - and says nothing! Simply plays . What a scene! When Prince is again back on stage, Michael Jackson says to me: "Prince played his bass in the middle of my face! What's up with that?" Now now, I say: "you are finally incognito here! Imagine that Prince would have said: ', and by the way Michael Jackson sits here.' The people are already excited because of Prince, let alone, they would know that you are also here!" Yep, that was it then, the craziest night of my life. Sp: And when you tell this story, nobody believes you. Will.i.am: I would not even believe it! But I have to say: It is true. Each word. The next morning I had breakfast with Michael Jackson, we worked a bit on songs together - and that was the last time that I have seen him. So I'm confused. Was Michael in disguise? How could people not know he was there. I don't really understand what Will.i.am is saying | |
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vainandy said: It was real windy out there that day and that bitch's blonde hair was blowing in the wind like one of those models in a photo shoot that have a fan blowing their hair. Now that's some Dynasty shit! The fuck she thought she was, Alexis?! | |
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vainandy said: If a child shows his little ass, he needs to get his ass whipped. If you don't whip it, he'll be spitting in your face later. But there's discipline and there's abuse. My mother, grandmother, aunts, and uncles used to whip my little ass when I acted up and I deserved it because I was a mean little devil. But my father used to beat it. There's a difference in whipping and beating. LOL, well my father used to beat my ass. I think mothers giving "whoopins" and fathers give "beatins". It's just the way it is | |
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JackieBlue said: bboy87 said: Jackie my friend, I rarely use this word but... FUCK THAT BITCH yeah, I said bitch.....she's the worse kind of journalist on TV. I see her as the Perez Hilton of CNN. hey, you! Yeah, eff that b! Fans have had it out for her since 2003. I stopped the media then because she had "experts" who would be on other shows saying one thing but then show up on her program practically echoing what she said I'm still wondering why none of the fans haven't mollywhopped her or Diane Dimond's asses. They get enough threats from the fans I'm not talking about "we're gonna kill you" kind. I'm talking about "Don't let us see you chillin' outside cuz we will whoop dat ass" I stayed blocking the phone from my mom during the trial so she wouldn't call in and cuss her out "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Arnotts said: optimus said: Will.I.Am talks MJ & Prince
----- It's from a German magazine. He played with Prince on stage and watched the rest of the show with MJ Here is the translation I found: Quote: Sp: You've also worked with Prince? The man has shocked the recording industry, by giving away his new CD in Great Britain for free with a newspaper. Will.i.am: A visionaire. I performed with him. A few months ago,I was with the Black Eyed Peas in Las Vegas. Prince calls me, he played in a Casino and asks ", you want to perform with me tonight?" Sure, I say, of course! On the next day his assistant called me and said: "Prince would like to know if you want to come along this evening too." Want to? What's more cool than to play with Prince? Right, to play with him two days in a row! A few minutes later I get a further call: "Hey, it's Mike, wat are you doing?" Mike? Michael Jackson? Wow! He had changed studios at that time, from Ireland to Las Vegas. I say: "Hey, I'm playing with Prince here tonight." - "Prince? That is great!" - "you should come!" - "really? That would be cool!" - "that would be really cool!" - "Okay, I'll come." Imagine that : I'm playing with Prince, and Michael Jackson sits in the audience! Holy ish! What chance is there to get a call from Prince and then one from Michael Jackson within ten minutes ? Sp: that chance is zero. Will.i.am: Right. Okay, I head for the concert in the early evening and - get stuck in traffic! I think by myself, @#$%, this is the worst time to be stuck ! So I jump out of the car and start to run. I make it at the last second into the club. Everything goes smoothly, after three minutes I 'm back from the stage, Prince still yells in the microphone "Give it up for Will.i.am!", I creep into the hall and sit down to the table of - Michael Jackson. So he really came! "What did you think of me?", I ask him. He answers: "I did not know that you rapped." Now I ask you? The man lets me fly to bloody Ireland for a few photographs , and he doesn't even know that I am not only a producer, but also a rapper! I say: "Have you never heard my music, or looked at my videos? I @#$#%' am the main rapper of the Black Eyed Peas!" Anyways. Besides Michael Jackson sits the actor Chris Tucker, and then Prince comes down from the stage to us... Sp: ... and sees Michael Jackson sitting at the table with you? Will.i.am: Yo. He had his bass still strapped on and stops at our table. So there we sit : Michael Jackson, Chris Tucker and I. Prince stands directly before Michael Jackson and improvises on the bass: Slap! He does nothing- nothing! - and says nothing! Simply plays . What a scene! When Prince is again back on stage, Michael Jackson says to me: "Prince played his bass in the middle of my face! What's up with that?" Now now, I say: "you are finally incognito here! Imagine that Prince would have said: ', and by the way Michael Jackson sits here.' The people are already excited because of Prince, let alone, they would know that you are also here!" Yep, that was it then, the craziest night of my life. Sp: And when you tell this story, nobody believes you. Will.i.am: I would not even believe it! But I have to say: It is true. Each word. The next morning I had breakfast with Michael Jackson, we worked a bit on songs together - and that was the last time that I have seen him. So I'm confused. Was Michael in disguise? How could people not know he was there. I don't really understand what Will.i.am is saying Coming from the same man who said quote, unquote, "Michael and I rode on horses together." IN IRELAND! | |
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it seems that these poor children asked to see their father in the ER after he passed and was granted their wish. poor kids... LOVE HARD. | |
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lazycrockett said: Timmy84 said: You know? And you know something else that has me mad: people trying to "confirm" that he was 100% healthy. Now looking back, I think he wasn't at all well (hell he probably didn't know himself). Well then throw in the fact that he DIDNT know the exact address, the house had no landlines, and seemed no one else was around till he ran down and told the chef to get security who then made the 911 call. Strange. This might be a stretch but in an emergency, if the address is not known, can't they trace the call? All I know is I would NOT want to be in his position. Even if completely innocent I wouldn't want this weight on me and I wouldn't want to live with the fact that I couldn't save him. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: vainandy said: If a child shows his little ass, he needs to get his ass whipped. If you don't whip it, he'll be spitting in your face later. But there's discipline and there's abuse. My mother, grandmother, aunts, and uncles used to whip my little ass when I acted up and I deserved it because I was a mean little devil. But my father used to beat it. There's a difference in whipping and beating. LOL, well my father used to beat my ass. I think mothers giving "whoopins" and fathers give "beatins". It's just the way it is But see like you said we don't know about Joe, we don't know about the siblings either. Some of the siblings (according to one of Jermaine's ex-girlfriends' book) recounted being scared of their father. Jackie and Tito reportedly began sobbing when talking about their father during their childhood. Janet ached when Joe demanded she call him "Joseph" instead of daddy. You can forgive but you can't forget. You could say it was corporal punishment but when you do it with malice I dunno if I can get behind that. There's a lot of fathers who are as bad as Joe. [Edited 6/29/09 19:37pm] | |
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Evvy said: it seems that these poor children asked to see their father in the ER after he passed and was granted their wish. poor kids...
What would possess these small babies to wanna do that? That'll probably scar them for life. I never wanna go to funerals or to see my dying relatives because their bodies are already gone. [Edited 6/29/09 19:36pm] | |
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Evvy said: it seems that these poor children asked to see their father in the ER after he passed and was granted their wish. poor kids...
i don't see anything wrong with that. it's sad, sure, but people are brought up to deal with grief in different ways and if seeing his body helped them in some way, then i'm glad they were given permission. PERSONALLY, i'm just the opposite. when someone dies, the body is just a shell to me and i don't want to look at it because it just reminds me of all the pain that the person is finally free of. like i said, everyone's different... | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: vainandy said: If a child shows his little ass, he needs to get his ass whipped. If you don't whip it, he'll be spitting in your face later. But there's discipline and there's abuse. My mother, grandmother, aunts, and uncles used to whip my little ass when I acted up and I deserved it because I was a mean little devil. But my father used to beat it. There's a difference in whipping and beating. LOL, well my father used to beat my ass. I think mothers giving "whoopins" and fathers give "beatins". It's just the way it is But did your father call you a fag or a nigger lover on a daily basis while the beatings were occuring? I'm sure my father had a personal agenda that he was going to "straighten me out" no matter how much my mother and her family was "ruining me". Who knows what else was said to Michael by his father when the cameras weren't rolling. Of course, we'll never know because he would never admit it but I can see him saying horrible things to him. When I see him, I feel like I'm looking at a black version of my own father. I can't explain it, it's just a feeling I get. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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bboy87 said: JackieBlue said: hey, you! Yeah, eff that b! Fans have had it out for her since 2003. I stopped the media then because she had "experts" who would be on other shows saying one thing but then show up on her program practically echoing what she said I'm still wondering why none of the fans haven't mollywhopped her or Diane Dimond's asses. They get enough threats from the fans I'm not talking about "we're gonna kill you" kind. I'm talking about "Don't let us see you chillin' outside cuz we will whoop dat ass" I stayed blocking the phone from my mom during the trial so she wouldn't call in and cuss her out Yeah, Diane Dimond is definitely on my list of people I'd like to disappear. I'm being nice. I'd like to punch her in the face. I can now add Dr. Conrad Murray to that growing list. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Anxiety said: Evvy said: it seems that these poor children asked to see their father in the ER after he passed and was granted their wish. poor kids...
i don't see anything wrong with that. it's sad, sure, but people are brought up to deal with grief in different ways and if seeing his body helped them in some way, then i'm glad they were given permission. PERSONALLY, i'm just the opposite. when someone dies, the body is just a shell to me and i don't want to look at it because it just reminds me of all the pain that the person is finally free of. like i said, everyone's different... I'm like you. I ignore the body. I chose to remember them as they live. That being said, I wouldn't be promoting anything in two months or something after a famous relative died. | |
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errant said: WillIAm said: Prince stands directly before Michael Jackson and improvises on the bass: Slap! He does nothing- nothing! - and says nothing! Simply plays . What a scene! When Prince is again back on stage, Michael Jackson says to me: "Prince played his bass in the middle of my face! What's up with that?" that's just awesome i remember reading about this. that must've been a total "clutch the pearls" moment for michael. | |
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vainandy said: But did your father call you a fag or a nigger lover on a daily basis while the beatings were occuring? I'm sure my father had a personal agenda that he was going to "straighten me out" no matter how much my mother and her family was "ruining me". Who knows what else was said to Michael by his father when the cameras weren't rolling. Of course, we'll never know because he would never admit it but I can see him saying horrible things to him. When I see him, I feel like I'm looking at a black version of my own father. I can't explain it, it's just a feeling I get. Hope this doesn't piss you off but Joe Jackson had a strong opinion against homosexuals and when asked if Michael was gay of course he said no my son isn't a homosexual and he (and that idiot savant friend of his, Majestik) ended the interview. I think Majestik cursed at the interviewer too. Joe was already too old to hit someone then tho. | |
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BSK3478 said: errant said: that's just awesome i remember reading about this. that must've been a total "clutch the pearls" moment for michael. That was probably because being in an audience at a club was nouveau to him. If it was an awards show it would've been different. | |
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vainandy said: Children immitate their parents. When his siblings teased him about his nose, I'm sure they had probably heard their father do it first. And everybody jokes around and teases from time to time but when you see that a particular joke strikes a nerve in the child, it's time for that particular joke to stop. And it's up to the parent to notice it struck a nerve and stop it, not encourage it. I can just see Joe now...."Aw hell, that will help make a man out of him". plus being teased by your siblings and by your parents are different. its normal for siblings to tease and make fun of each other, but for a parent to do it is cruel. my brother made fun of me for being chubby. but it never really got to me cause he is my brother. now if my mother had called me fat , that would hurt | |
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ehuffnsd said: suga10 said: The Doctor's lawyer is on Larry King now. He's not looking like a very confident fellow I tell ya His face spells out- bullshitting.
[Edited 6/29/09 18:34pm] on MSNBC they stated that Michael had lots of doctors, this one was hired in May and just happened to be on the scene. it was the guard on duty, i don't think he had any role but the other doctors he may have been doctor shopping probably had a bigger role. MSNBC has proven to be very unreliable | |
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Timmy84 said: That being said, I wouldn't be promoting anything in two months or something after a famous relative died. man...joe jackson comes from a different time, a different dimension, a different universe altogether. he kinda reminds me of old mister in the color purple. there's that whole code of hardness and a disdain for sentiment that means you're a real man, and you push your children as hard as they can be pushed, and then you push some more. i think it's something that might have at least been considered normal back in the old timey days, but for us in the here and now, it just makes him look like an evil old man (not that he isn't...i'm just sayin'). | |
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cdcgold said: vainandy said: Children immitate their parents. When his siblings teased him about his nose, I'm sure they had probably heard their father do it first. And everybody jokes around and teases from time to time but when you see that a particular joke strikes a nerve in the child, it's time for that particular joke to stop. And it's up to the parent to notice it struck a nerve and stop it, not encourage it. I can just see Joe now...."Aw hell, that will help make a man out of him". plus being teased by your siblings and by your parents are different. its normal for siblings to tease and make fun of each other, but for a parent to do it is cruel. my brother made fun of me for being chubby. but it never really got to me cause he is my brother. now if my mother had called me fat , that would hurt Right. Because Michael had names for some of his siblings too. Jermaine was called "Rocky Road" (he had acne problems even then). Janet was called "Dunk". Janet may have called him "Doo-Doo". But yeah it's harder to take that from your own father. | |
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Anxiety said: Timmy84 said: That being said, I wouldn't be promoting anything in two months or something after a famous relative died. man...joe jackson comes from a different time, a different dimension, a different universe altogether. he kinda reminds me of old mister in the color purple. there's that whole code of hardness and a disdain for sentiment that means you're a real man, and you push your children as hard as they can be pushed, and then you push some more. i think it's something that might have at least been considered normal back in the old timey days, but for us in the here and now, it just makes him look like an evil old man (not that he isn't...i'm just sayin'). He remind me of Big Red from "The Five Heartbeats" for some weird reason. | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: But did your father call you a fag or a nigger lover on a daily basis while the beatings were occuring? I'm sure my father had a personal agenda that he was going to "straighten me out" no matter how much my mother and her family was "ruining me". Who knows what else was said to Michael by his father when the cameras weren't rolling. Of course, we'll never know because he would never admit it but I can see him saying horrible things to him. When I see him, I feel like I'm looking at a black version of my own father. I can't explain it, it's just a feeling I get. Hope this doesn't piss you off but Joe Jackson had a strong opinion against homosexuals and when asked if Michael was gay of course he said no my son isn't a homosexual and he (and that idiot savant friend of his, Majestik) ended the interview. I think Majestik cursed at the interviewer too. Joe was already too old to hit someone then tho. No, that doesn't piss me off because you are just reporting the information. I assumed Joe was like that and that's also why I think that Michael would never have come out of the closet if he was gay. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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JackieBlue said: bboy87 said: Fans have had it out for her since 2003. I stopped the media then because she had "experts" who would be on other shows saying one thing but then show up on her program practically echoing what she said I'm still wondering why none of the fans haven't mollywhopped her or Diane Dimond's asses. They get enough threats from the fans I'm not talking about "we're gonna kill you" kind. I'm talking about "Don't let us see you chillin' outside cuz we will whoop dat ass" I stayed blocking the phone from my mom during the trial so she wouldn't call in and cuss her out Yeah, Diane Dimond is definitely on my list of people I'd like to disappear. I'm being nice. I'd like to punch her in the face. I can now add Dr. Conrad Murray to that growing list. I remember someone putting a hit out on Diane back in 1994 and I think again in 2005. She lives pretty anonymous these days....in New Mexico "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Timmy84 said: Anxiety said: man...joe jackson comes from a different time, a different dimension, a different universe altogether. he kinda reminds me of old mister in the color purple. there's that whole code of hardness and a disdain for sentiment that means you're a real man, and you push your children as hard as they can be pushed, and then you push some more. i think it's something that might have at least been considered normal back in the old timey days, but for us in the here and now, it just makes him look like an evil old man (not that he isn't...i'm just sayin'). He remind me of Big Red from "The Five Heartbeats" for some weird reason. Jermaine reminds me of Eddie "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: JackieBlue said: Yeah, Diane Dimond is definitely on my list of people I'd like to disappear. I'm being nice. I'd like to punch her in the face. I can now add Dr. Conrad Murray to that growing list. I remember someone putting a hit out on Diane back in 1994 and I think again in 2005. She lives pretty anonymous these days....in New Mexico damn. i didn't know mj fans were that hardcore. | |
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ViintageJunkiie said: vainandy said: No, I don't know what all was said and done when the cameras were off but I do know that Michael himself said twice while the cameras were on (once to Oprah, and the other time to the guy that got the second trial going) that his father beat him. I can't help it if he's too damn crazy to not have hard feelings towards his father for that. Michael was disciplined like all his brothers and sisters were. Michael said he didn't get disciplined as much as everyone else did because Joe used him as the example ("Do the dance like Michael") and growing up in black family, I don't know what child didn't get disciplined. my thing about joseph is that alot of the beatings he gave his children were not for discipline. i mean beating a child for not dancing right. how is not being able to a do a dance misbehaving those children did nothing wrong most of the time when the got their beatings they should not have been beaten if they couldn't do a dance, as if they had committed a crime | |
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bboy87 said: Timmy84 said: He remind me of Big Red from "The Five Heartbeats" for some weird reason. Jermaine reminds me of Eddie "Nights like this, I wish raindrops would faaaaall..." Looking at "Flash": "how does it feel to be me? " | |
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Anxiety said: Timmy84 said: That being said, I wouldn't be promoting anything in two months or something after a famous relative died. man...joe jackson comes from a different time, a different dimension, a different universe altogether. he kinda reminds me of old mister in the color purple. there's that whole code of hardness and a disdain for sentiment that means you're a real man, and you push your children as hard as they can be pushed, and then you push some more. i think it's something that might have at least been considered normal back in the old timey days, but for us in the here and now, it just makes him look like an evil old man (not that he isn't...i'm just sayin'). unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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