lowkey said: Timmy84 said: No I can't agree with that. Sorry, no. Where was he when he was going through it? All these two-faced fuckers... I refuse to conform to that. Sorry. Moving on. He changed it alright but the problem is no one knew what to do with it so they copied him and turned out to be pretenders. Plus it took the "Thriller" anniversary and his death for them to finally "give it to the man" whose legacy they disrespected? PLEASE! [Edited 7/1/09 21:32pm] im not disagreeing with nothing you just said, i actually feel rev al is a opportunist just like jesse , you are right most of the people claiming to love him in death wasnt there for him in life,rev al reasons for saying what he says may not be sincere but that dont make them not facts.i went to the appollo yesterday and im glad i missed rev's speech but the whole thing was amazing to see,i have never seen an artist affect so many different people...there was old,middle age,young,very young,babies,black,latino,white,straight,gay,men,women,working class,thugs. everybody had their own memories of this dude. i had turned off from mj when his appearence changed so drastically but listening to his old music made me remember all the good shit that i loved about him since i was a kid, i think thats what most people want to remember but unfortunately his death like his life is gonna turn into a circus. Believe me, I see your points, I'm just pissed he had to die for this to happen. | |
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suga10 said: http://www.tmz.com/ Michael Jackson used a slew of aliases to score prescription meds, and we know the two names that could unlock the key to gross abuse by Jackson and some prominent doctors.
We've learned Jackson frequently used the names Omar Arnold and Jack London to get powerful drugs, including Demerol. Jackson also used the name of one of his bodyguards, as well as the name of the office manager for one of his doctors. The DEA, which is joining to assist the LAPD in its investigation of several doctors who prescribed drugs to Jackson, will be hunting down these names and others. Sources tell us the prescription abuse was so egregious, one doctor would call the pharmacy and say Jackson was coming down to get Demerol. The pharmacy would then fill the prescription, leaving the patient's name blank. You GOT to be kidding me. | |
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This picture speaks volumes to me:
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Timmy84 said: This dude was no wear close to doing these London shows even if he mustered a couple of good rehearsals Unbelievable! He was keen on shopping for a ton of antiques And his priorities seemed obvious. And it was awfully suspicious how he would be visiting Dr. Klein every freaking day. [Edited 7/1/09 22:07pm] | |
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suga10 said: Timmy84 said: You GOT to be kidding me. This dude was no wear close to doing these London shows even if he mustered a couple of good rehearsals Unbelievable! He was keen on shopping for a ton of antiques And his priorities seemed obvious. And it was awfully suspicious how he would be visiting Dr. Klein every freaking day. [Edited 7/1/09 22:07pm] Man I was just thinking about why he was always there. | |
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man i've loved this man since I was a little gurl...wanted to meet him and had tickets to see him in concert. This is so painful. | |
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Timmy84 said: suga10 said: This dude was no wear close to doing these London shows even if he mustered a couple of good rehearsals Unbelievable! He was keen on shopping for a ton of antiques And his priorities seemed obvious. And it was awfully suspicious how he would be visiting Dr. Klein every freaking day. [Edited 7/1/09 22:07pm] Man I was just thinking about why he was always there. Supposedly the Pharmacy near that place, is where Anna Nicole's Meds came from too | |
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Timmy84 said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: Come on now y'all! The conspiracy theories haven't even begun yet! I can see years from now, it being claimed that Elvis was so pissed that Michael married Lisa Marie that he brought his old ass out of hiding and broke into Michael's house and forced fed him a poisonous Whopper from the Burger King he hangs out at in Battle Creek, Mi and Tupac drove the getaway car!
Yes, that's crazy as hell but remember you heard it here first! A little levity is much needed, right about now! Wanna hear more? Apparently the wacky ass Sun is saying Michael faked his death and some people saw him in another area of Los Angeles somewhere, another said they saw him in a middle Eastern Europe town and another said they saw him at an airport. I can't remember which site I read this on but I swear somebody said that Michael faked the whole thing because his Vitiligo began reversing itself and he was turning back Black and GOD didn't want him to bear that! I was so TOO through that I shut all my computers down for hours! I haven't shut all my computers down, at the same time, since 2004! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Timmy84 said: Wanna hear more? Apparently the wacky ass Sun is saying Michael faked his death and some people saw him in another area of Los Angeles somewhere, another said they saw him in a middle Eastern Europe town and another said they saw him at an airport. I can't remember which site I read this on but I swear somebody said that Michael faked the whole thing because his Vitiligo began reversing itself and he was turning back Black and GOD didn't want him to bear that! I was so TOO through that I shut all my computers down for hours! I haven't shut all my computers down, at the same time, since 2004! Aw hell to the naw, lol. One site I saw said Michael had someone dressed like him sleeping at his bed and also said the person who actually died had a long term terminal illness. | |
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suga10 said: Timmy84 said: Man I was just thinking about why he was always there. Supposedly the Pharmacy near that place, is where Anna Nicole's Meds came from too SPOOKY! And they both died under the same causes. | |
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Timmy84 said: suga10 said: Supposedly the Pharmacy near that place, is where Anna Nicole's Meds came from too SPOOKY! And they both died under the same causes. I'm telling y'all...the dumb shit is going to play out for YEARS and YEARS to come! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Now that I look at it. I guess Mike wasn't doing all these PR stunts on purpose lately. What a deeply troubled man [Edited 7/1/09 22:33pm] | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Timmy84 said: SPOOKY! And they both died under the same causes. I'm telling y'all...the dumb shit is going to play out for YEARS and YEARS to come! It's like Elvis all over again already. | |
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Timmy84 said: Rogue588 said: I don't have a problem putting on my tin foil hat and saying that it could be possible that AEG could've been involved in some hanky panky involving insurance, a "tribute" show and the recently revealed rehearsal footage. The fact that Michael had a "known drug dependency" made it that.much.easier. Then again, i'm a fan of conspiracy theories. It's easy for people to believe it. I don't. But I think since Michael agreed to it, he would do anything to live up to the pressure that was stacked on him. These conspiracy theories are kinda ridiculous tho. Wasn't Mike bamboozled into doing the 50 shows after thinking he was only committing to 10? Still, I hear what you're saying about theories. I mean, I would love for Mike to "fake" his death and attempt to live a normal life without bottomfeeders, but I know that's not true (or realistic). However, I still think the AEG theory has some merit - when it comes to $$$, people do some crazy shit. • Did you first think Prince was gay? •
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Rogue588 said: Timmy84 said: It's easy for people to believe it. I don't. But I think since Michael agreed to it, he would do anything to live up to the pressure that was stacked on him. These conspiracy theories are kinda ridiculous tho. Wasn't Mike bamboozled into doing the 50 shows after thinking he was only committing to 10? Still, I hear what you're saying about theories. I mean, I would love for Mike to "fake" his death and attempt to live a normal life without bottomfeeders, but I know that's not true (or realistic). However, I still think the AEG theory has some merit - when it comes to $$$, people do some crazy shit. Well that I can understand... | |
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RE: that press conference. When I saw him at that press conference, I knew he was in trouble. He acted high as hell. Really off. He came off wackier than usual to me and I couldn't really understand why people were so excited and wanted him to return in the shape he looked to be in. So I strayed away from that sticky altogether. The thought of him making a return scared me for some reason.
I had no idea his drug use was as long-standing as it appears to have been, though. When you're at the point where you want to be "knocked out" to rest, you're on your way out. It may not have been intentional, but I feel something in him wanted to play with fire... I'm sorry. "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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Timmy84 said: This picture speaks volumes to me:
Have you noticed how much he's been in the public eye since Michael's death? Jermaine made one little statement and so did Janet. Other than that, they haven't been seen or heard from too much, nor has the rest of the family. But this old attention wanting camera hog Joe, has been out several times making a fool of himself. He's been trying to get attention for himself during this death so much that it reminds me of Reverend Wright making a fool of himself at that last press conference trying to bleed off of Obama's success. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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bettybop said: RE: that press conference. When I saw him at that press conference, I knew he was in trouble. He acted high as hell. Really off. He came off wackier than usual to me and I couldn't really understand why people were so excited and wanted him to return in the shape he looked to be in. So I strayed away from that sticky altogether. The thought of him making a return scared me for some reason.
Exactly I mean remember back in the day. Mike was like a whole different person. | |
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Rogue588 said: Timmy84 said: It's easy for people to believe it. I don't. But I think since Michael agreed to it, he would do anything to live up to the pressure that was stacked on him. These conspiracy theories are kinda ridiculous tho. Wasn't Mike bamboozled into doing the 50 shows after thinking he was only committing to 10? Still, I hear what you're saying about theories. I mean, I would love for Mike to "fake" his death and attempt to live a normal life without bottomfeeders, but I know that's not true (or realistic). However, I still think the AEG theory has some merit - when it comes to $$$, people do some crazy shit. What I really want to know is...if Michael was in as bad of shape as is being reported. How in the hell, did he get a pass...from the insurance company...that insured him for the shows? I know that money talks and bullshit walks but seriously...WT Bloody F Hell??? I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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vainandy said: Have you noticed how much he's been in the public eye since Michael's death? Jermaine made one little statement and so did Janet. Other than that, they haven't been seen or heard from too much, nor has the rest of the family. But this old attention wanting camera hog Joe, has been out several times making a fool of himself. He's been trying to get attention for himself during this death so much that it reminds me of Reverend Wright making a fool of himself at that last press conference trying to bleed off of Obama's success. Yeah it is reminding me of that. Joe Jackson is just a rotten, rotten old man. | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Rogue588 said: Wasn't Mike bamboozled into doing the 50 shows after thinking he was only committing to 10? Still, I hear what you're saying about theories. I mean, I would love for Mike to "fake" his death and attempt to live a normal life without bottomfeeders, but I know that's not true (or realistic). However, I still think the AEG theory has some merit - when it comes to $$$, people do some crazy shit. What I really want to know is...if Michael was in as bad of shape as is being reported. How in the hell, did he get a pass...from the insurance company...that insured him for the shows? I know that money talks and bullshit walks but seriously...WT Bloody F Hell??? It makes you wonder, don't it? | |
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I'm gonna pass on the speculation and sit and wait to get the truth because right now, a bunch of bullshit (as expected) is being thrown out there and it's becoming a big mess, so I'm going to avoid it and focus on what's real and what's positive "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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Timmy84 said: vainandy said: Have you noticed how much he's been in the public eye since Michael's death? Jermaine made one little statement and so did Janet. Other than that, they haven't been seen or heard from too much, nor has the rest of the family. But this old attention wanting camera hog Joe, has been out several times making a fool of himself. He's been trying to get attention for himself during this death so much that it reminds me of Reverend Wright making a fool of himself at that last press conference trying to bleed off of Obama's success. Yeah it is reminding me of that. Joe Jackson is just a rotten, rotten old man. He's to Michael what Ike was to Tina. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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vainandy said: He's to Michael what Ike was to Tina. I always say this... | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Rogue588 said: Wasn't Mike bamboozled into doing the 50 shows after thinking he was only committing to 10? Still, I hear what you're saying about theories. I mean, I would love for Mike to "fake" his death and attempt to live a normal life without bottomfeeders, but I know that's not true (or realistic). However, I still think the AEG theory has some merit - when it comes to $$$, people do some crazy shit. What I really want to know is...if Michael was in as bad of shape as is being reported. How in the hell, did he get a pass...from the insurance company...that insured him for the shows? I know that money talks and bullshit walks but seriously...WT Bloody F Hell??? [Edited 7/1/09 23:07pm] "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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LittleBLUECorvette said: I picked up the Historical Collectors Edition Magazine today. There is a pic of Randy, but they say it's Mike circa 1971.
There have been a whole lot of pictures in the media where they keep getting Randy and MJ mixed up when they were younger. They did look very much alike but you would have thought by now they would be able to distinguished them by now. | |
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bettybop said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: What I really want to know is...if Michael was in as bad of shape as is being reported. How in the hell, did he get a pass...from the insurance company...that insured him for the shows? I know that money talks and bullshit walks but seriously...WT Bloody F Hell??? [Edited 7/1/09 23:07pm] Yeah it makes those reports sound sane because of the way the lawyer is seemingly going back and forth. Speculation it may be but it may not actually be too hard to believe. We all don't know the causes yet but they could be possible scenarios. | |
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bettybop said: HatrinaHaterwitz said: What I really want to know is...if Michael was in as bad of shape as is being reported. How in the hell, did he get a pass...from the insurance company...that insured him for the shows? I know that money talks and bullshit walks but seriously...WT Bloody F Hell??? [Edited 7/1/09 23:07pm] this is why, as you say, we should wait for the autopsy. why *would* an insurance company agree to insure someone who was a drug addict for up to 50 shows for any amount of money? think logically about that. then there's the various people who saw him rehearse, vs the people who seems to have a vested interest in perpetuating the speculation that he wasn't ready. admittedly, mj's recent press conference was not great, but those of us who remember the infamous victory tour press conference know that mj is not good at these things by any stretch of the imagination. will we find out that he died of an accidental overdose, and the doctor could have called 911 sooner? probably. will it be this whole pharmacy of drugs that people are speculating about. maybe not. | |
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Gavin admitted that Michael never touched him! -Well, we all KNEW that! But, I'm so glad that he finally said it out loud! Yes! I saw it on "The Insider" on CBS.
He said, "Many people think Michael molested me. He never touched me." http://www.maximum-jackso...hp?t=10679 | |
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Timmy84 said: trueiopian said: Like what? Take pictures and sell it to magazines just so the magazine can stay in the racks and not go bankrupt. Oh worse then that. Celebrating on the grave, pissing on the grave, writing child and race related jokes on it. And I heard some stuff of sending horrible messages to his family. All you have to do is go on youtube and see the comments people are leaving on his videos. You can tell these people are white supremeist type people or those loudly spoken christian type groups. Just horrible things, some people really hated him with a passion, which is far scarier than the crazy love fans feel for him. | |
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