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Printablei think its perfectly understandable that he would pick diana ross michael has been around her since he was a lil boy and he most likely saw her as a great mother, she has raised 5 kids and she has her own money, so that is not a motivating factor. john branca is one of the top lawyers in the industry, there is no way he would draw up that will unless mj and diana spoke about it and she agreed. as far as not choosing his sisters, well you have janet who is a superstar in her own right, janet has never raised a child,she is a single star living her own life, she is not a good choice to raise those kids...she is probably a great auntie but not a mommy, latoya? (no comment),and we dont know what kinda relationship he had with reebie.we also dont know the situation with him and diana ross, we assume they didnt speak or whatever but we dont know.i remember thinking after hearing the ojays speak about hangin out with mike on the black or white set, i had no idea they still had contact with him. most of us think he was isolated but then i hear all kinda new artists talking about 'when they met mj'.we really dont know anything about his personal life except what the media tells us. [Edited 7/1/09 21:15pm] | |
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I'm watching the World Music Awards
Chris didn't do the choreography right. It looks like he got the basics and then went on stage  "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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I picked up the Historical Collectors Edition Magazine today. There is a pic of Randy, but they say it's Mike circa 1971. PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever ----- Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It | |
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lowkey said: i think its perfectly understandable that he would pick diana ross michael has been around her since he was a lil boy and he most likely saw her as a great mother, she has raised 5 kids and she has her own money, so that is not a motivating factor. john branca is one of the top lawyers in the industry, there is no way he would draw up that will unless mj and diana spoke about it and she agreed. as far as not choosing his sisters, well you have janet who is a superstar in her own right, janet has never raised a child,she is a single star living her own life, she is not a good choice to raise those kids...she is probably a great auntie but not a mommy, latoya? (no comment),and we dont know what kinda relationship he had with reebie.we also dont know the situation with him and diana ross, we assume they didnt speak or whatever but we dont know.i remember thinking after hearing the ojays speak about hangin out with mike on the black or white set, i had no idea they still had contact with him. most of us think he was isolated but then i hear all kinda new artists talking about 'when they met mj'.we really dont know anything about his personal life except what the media tells us.
[Edited 7/1/09 21:15pm] Odd you're saying this now because I'm hearing new reports that another will will be published soon and Ms. Ross may not even be a part of it after all. | |
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Timmy84 said: JackieBlue said: I don't know. Was he not an addict or was he just getting started. At the time we thought it was alcohol and maybe it was but it was the first of seeing that something was a little off. He got started in 1984 but I think he controlled his dosages back then. Hell he was abusing his body anyways by not eating every Sundays and fasting. He had to be rushed to a hospital in 1990 for chest pains because of it. He didn't get addicted until the first allegations in 1993. That's when the "change" in him started and he never fully came back. If he got started in 1984--which would make sense in light of burn aftermath--it's a wonder that things weren't worse sooner. I don't mean that lightly but that's over 20 years of abuse. I don't think fasting is unhealthy especially one day a week but depending on what he was doing the other days and how he treated his body in general it could be trouble. In the early days I used to think Michael was really into health but that began to fall off the more I saw and heard. He had the info but never really treated himself well or stuck with anything. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Timmy84 said: lowkey said: i think its perfectly understandable that he would pick diana ross michael has been around her since he was a lil boy and he most likely saw her as a great mother, she has raised 5 kids and she has her own money, so that is not a motivating factor. john branca is one of the top lawyers in the industry, there is no way he would draw up that will unless mj and diana spoke about it and she agreed. as far as not choosing his sisters, well you have janet who is a superstar in her own right, janet has never raised a child,she is a single star living her own life, she is not a good choice to raise those kids...she is probably a great auntie but not a mommy, latoya? (no comment),and we dont know what kinda relationship he had with reebie.we also dont know the situation with him and diana ross, we assume they didnt speak or whatever but we dont know.i remember thinking after hearing the ojays speak about hangin out with mike on the black or white set, i had no idea they still had contact with him. most of us think he was isolated but then i hear all kinda new artists talking about 'when they met mj'.we really dont know anything about his personal life except what the media tells us.
[Edited 7/1/09 21:15pm] Odd you're saying this now because I'm hearing new reports that another will will be published soon and Ms. Ross may not even be a part of it after all. I was thinking there's gotta be something more recent than 2002 but at that point my mind was overwhelmed. It's a shame that everything is so convoluted. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Arnotts said: trueiopian said: 
That's why I'm hopping they don't make his burial site known to the public. We don't want what happened to Charlie Chaplin happen to MJ! I'm actually more scared of what the haters would do to the body then the MJ fans. I've heard some pretty awful thing of what they would love to do to him and his grave. Like what?  | |
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JackieBlue said: Timmy84 said: He got started in 1984 but I think he controlled his dosages back then. Hell he was abusing his body anyways by not eating every Sundays and fasting. He had to be rushed to a hospital in 1990 for chest pains because of it. He didn't get addicted until the first allegations in 1993. That's when the "change" in him started and he never fully came back. If he got started in 1984--which would make sense in light of burn aftermath--it's a wonder that things weren't worse sooner. I don't mean that lightly but that's over 20 years of abuse. I don't think fasting is unhealthy especially one day a week but depending on what he was doing the other days and how he treated his body in general it could be trouble. In the early days I used to think Michael was really into health but that began to fall off the more I saw and heard. He had the info but never really treated himself well or stuck with anything. That's what I'm thinking too. Plus there were times in the early 1980s that Michael's family was scared for him because he'll be so many pounds underweight. It had a lot to do why his face and body looked the way it did because he always was trying to stay thin. He had issues with his body even then, it probably goes back to the '70s. I mean Michael had low self-esteem so it wasn't hard to imagine he kept hearing chubby in his direction. That's why when he became an adult he started to cut off from what he thought was massive weight plus he wanted a "dancer's body" and dancers never were known to have a lot of pounds. | |
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trueiopian said: Arnotts said: I'm actually more scared of what the haters would do to the body then the MJ fans. I've heard some pretty awful thing of what they would love to do to him and his grave. Like what? Take pictures and sell it to magazines just so the magazine can stay in the racks and not go bankrupt.  | |
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This was from 1993 really the start. Obviously after allegations
I remember when he announced the This is It Tour, I remember I was thinking- why the hell was he behaving all out of it?? He seemed like he was on drugs during that press conference.
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Timmy84 said: trueiopian said: Like what? Take pictures and sell it to magazines just so the magazine can stay in the racks and not go bankrupt. F--king sick!  | |
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trueiopian said: Timmy84 said: Take pictures and sell it to magazines just so the magazine can stay in the racks and not go bankrupt. F--king sick! When the National Enquirer posted the corpse pictures of Elvis in his casket, the Enquirer became this worldwide phenomenon. So I can imagine what they're gonna do with Michael. That's why I'm fearing a public funeral. It would be bad judgment on the Jacksons, I don't care if they said that's what Michael wanted, this is not right. It's hard to say "respect the dead" when they're there. | |
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Timmy84 said: Someone asked what Al said:
He said that black music was ghettoized until Michael Jackson showed up, in other words, Michael was the first black man to do what he did. He totally disrespected Motown Records and the rock 'n' roll movement of the fifties and sixties when he said this.
That's why some of us are upset at him. name another black artist that did what he did, love him or hate him mj broke the race barriers.the artists of the 50's and 60's may have had white kids dancing to their music but it was still very much segregated. what i got from what rev al said is not the same as what some of you are saying, he didnt say michael invented pop music but he did change the landscape of pop music | |
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suga10 said: This was from 1993 really the start. Obviously after allegations
I remember when he announced the This is It Tour, I remember I was thinking- why the hell was he behaving all out of it?? He seemed like he was on drugs during that press conference.
[Edited 7/1/09 21:24pm] Wow @ the '93 deposition. Yeah he was out of it then. | |
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Timmy84 said: lowkey said: i think its perfectly understandable that he would pick diana ross michael has been around her since he was a lil boy and he most likely saw her as a great mother, she has raised 5 kids and she has her own money, so that is not a motivating factor. john branca is one of the top lawyers in the industry, there is no way he would draw up that will unless mj and diana spoke about it and she agreed. as far as not choosing his sisters, well you have janet who is a superstar in her own right, janet has never raised a child,she is a single star living her own life, she is not a good choice to raise those kids...she is probably a great auntie but not a mommy, latoya? (no comment),and we dont know what kinda relationship he had with reebie.we also dont know the situation with him and diana ross, we assume they didnt speak or whatever but we dont know.i remember thinking after hearing the ojays speak about hangin out with mike on the black or white set, i had no idea they still had contact with him. most of us think he was isolated but then i hear all kinda new artists talking about 'when they met mj'.we really dont know anything about his personal life except what the media tells us.
[Edited 7/1/09 21:15pm] Odd you're saying this now because I'm hearing new reports that another will will be published soon and Ms. Ross may not even be a part of it after all. im just speaking about this will that he made in 2002,he felt his mother and diana ross was the best choice to raise his kids, if he changed it later on i guess we will ind out. | |
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lowkey said: Timmy84 said: Someone asked what Al said:
He said that black music was ghettoized until Michael Jackson showed up, in other words, Michael was the first black man to do what he did. He totally disrespected Motown Records and the rock 'n' roll movement of the fifties and sixties when he said this.
That's why some of us are upset at him. name another black artist that did what he did, love him or hate him mj broke the race barriers.the artists of the 50's and 60's may have had white kids dancing to their music but it was still very much segregated. what i got from what rev al said is not the same as what some of you are saying, he didnt say michael invented pop music but he did change the landscape of pop music No I can't agree with that. Sorry, no. Where was he when he was going through it? All these two-faced fuckers... I refuse to conform to that. Sorry. Moving on. He changed it alright but the problem is no one knew what to do with it so they copied him and turned out to be pretenders. Plus it took the "Thriller" anniversary and his death for them to finally "give it to the man" whose legacy they disrespected? PLEASE! [Edited 7/1/09 21:32pm] | |
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Timmy84 said: trueiopian said: F--king sick! When the National Enquirer posted the corpse pictures of Elvis in his casket, the Enquirer became this worldwide phenomenon. So I can imagine what they're gonna do with Michael. That's why I'm fearing a public funeral. It would be bad judgment on the Jacksons, I don't care if they said that's what Michael wanted, this is not right. It's hard to say "respect the dead" when they're there. OK magazine was plain nasty. They put a picture of MJ dead on their cover  [Edited 7/1/09 21:33pm] | |
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suga10 said: Timmy84 said: When the National Enquirer posted the corpse pictures of Elvis in his casket, the Enquirer became this worldwide phenomenon. So I can imagine what they're gonna do with Michael. That's why I'm fearing a public funeral. It would be bad judgment on the Jacksons, I don't care if they said that's what Michael wanted, this is not right. It's hard to say "respect the dead" when they're there. OK magazine was plain nasty. They put a picture of him dead on their cover I saw it (not the bigger cover) but a little snippet of it, revolting to say the least. | |
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suga10 said: This was from 1993 really the start. Obviously after allegations
I remember when he announced the This is It Tour, I remember I was thinking- why the hell was he behaving all out of it?? He seemed like he was on drugs during that press conference.
[Edited 7/1/09 21:24pm] The infamous deposition. Totally out to lunch. And I know people were excited to see him at the This Is It conference but that sent off all sort of warning bells. My heart broke when I saw him and how he was.Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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JackieBlue said: suga10 said: This was from 1993 really the start. Obviously after allegations
I remember when he announced the This is It Tour, I remember I was thinking- why the hell was he behaving all out of it?? He seemed like he was on drugs during that press conference.
[Edited 7/1/09 21:24pm] The infamous deposition. Totally out to lunch. And I know people were excited to see him at the This Is It conference but that sent off all sort of warning bells. My heart broke when I saw him and how he was.I don't know why I didn't see it before (well when you're a fan you think the man is alright) but now that you mention it, he did look out of there in that press conference. Wow... just wow... | |
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Come on now y'all! The conspiracy theories haven't even begun yet! I can see years from now, it being claimed that Elvis was so pissed that Michael married Lisa Marie that he brought his old ass out of hiding and broke into Michael's house and forced fed him a poisonous Whopper from the Burger King he hangs out at in Battle Creek, Mi and Tupac drove the getaway car!
 Yes, that's crazy as hell but remember you heard it here first! 
 A little levity is much needed, right about now!I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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suga10 said: This was from 1993 really the start. Obviously after allegations
I remember when he announced the This is It Tour, I remember I was thinking- why the hell was he behaving all out of it?? He seemed like he was on drugs during that press conference.
[Edited 7/1/09 21:24pm] The first video just breaks my heart
Was the guy asking questions about the allegations? Ugh! and the 'This is it' conference was a bit awkward but I thought he was just a nervous | |
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I knew he looked off in that press conference.
At the World Music Awards 2006. He was behaving normally | |
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HatrinaHaterwitz said: Come on now y'all! The conspiracy theories haven't even begun yet! I can see years from now, it being claimed that Elvis was so pissed that Michael married Lisa Marie that he brought his old ass out of hiding and broke into Michael's house and forced fed him a poisonous Whopper from the Burger King he hangs out at in Battle Creek, Mi and Tupac drove the getaway car!
Yes, that's crazy as hell but remember you heard it here first!
A little levity is much needed, right about now!Wanna hear more? Apparently the wacky ass Sun is saying Michael faked his death and some people saw him in another area of Los Angeles somewhere, another said they saw him in a middle Eastern Europe town and another said they saw him at an airport. | |
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Timmy84 said: Wanna hear more? Apparently the wacky ass Sun is saying Michael faked his death and some people saw him in another area of Los Angeles somewhere, another said they saw him in a middle Eastern Europe town and another said they saw him at an airport.
Just like the 2Pac is still alive rumors | |
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suga10 said: Timmy84 said: Wanna hear more? Apparently the wacky ass Sun is saying Michael faked his death and some people saw him in another area of Los Angeles somewhere, another said they saw him in a middle Eastern Europe town and another said they saw him at an airport.
Just like the 2Pac is still alive rumors Oh yes! So it done already started. | |
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Timmy84 said: lowkey said: name another black artist that did what he did, love him or hate him mj broke the race barriers.the artists of the 50's and 60's may have had white kids dancing to their music but it was still very much segregated. what i got from what rev al said is not the same as what some of you are saying, he didnt say michael invented pop music but he did change the landscape of pop music No I can't agree with that. Sorry, no. Where was he when he was going through it? All these two-faced fuckers... I refuse to conform to that. Sorry. Moving on. He changed it alright but the problem is no one knew what to do with it so they copied him and turned out to be pretenders. Plus it took the "Thriller" anniversary and his death for them to finally "give it to the man" whose legacy they disrespected? PLEASE! [Edited 7/1/09 21:32pm] im not disagreeing with nothing you just said, i actually feel rev al is a opportunist just like jesse , you are right most of the people claiming to love him in death wasnt there for him in life,rev al reasons for saying what he says may not be sincere but that dont make them not facts.i went to the appollo yesterday and im glad i missed rev's speech but the whole thing was amazing to see,i have never seen an artist affect so many different people...there was old,middle age,young,very young,babies,black,latino,white,straight,gay,men,women,working class,thugs. everybody had their own memories of this dude. i had turned off from mj when his appearence changed so drastically but listening to his old music made me remember all the good shit that i loved about him since i was a kid, i think thats what most people want to remember but unfortunately his death like his life is gonna turn into a circus. | |
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JackieBlue said: Timmy84 said: Odd you're saying this now because I'm hearing new reports that another will will be published soon and Ms. Ross may not even be a part of it after all. I was thinking there's gotta be something more recent than 2002 but at that point my mind was overwhelmed. It's a shame that everything is so convoluted. That's the way it always was in Michael's world. Everything is so fucked up now. | |
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http://www.tmz.com/ Michael Jackson used a slew of aliases to score prescription meds, and we know the two names that could unlock the key to gross abuse by Jackson and some prominent doctors.
We've learned Jackson frequently used the names Omar Arnold and Jack London to get powerful drugs, including Demerol. Jackson also used the name of one of his bodyguards, as well as the name of the office manager for one of his doctors. The DEA, which is joining to assist the LAPD in its investigation of several doctors who prescribed drugs to Jackson, will be hunting down these names and others. Sources tell us the prescription abuse was so egregious, one doctor would call the pharmacy and say Jackson was coming down to get Demerol. The pharmacy would then fill the prescription, leaving the patient's name blank. | |
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