Well it does prove one thing.

MJ was not as healthy as we all thought.

If he was on painkillers, that wasn't good.

I really thought he was back on track and over all that, to take his comeback more seriously.

I guess not

Why the hell was he such a stubborn man about getting help??
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Copycat said:

Pretty damn cool.

vainandy said:

I've had nights when something great was happening the next day and I missed a night. Or I was up at the hospital with a hurt child and lost a night. You feel kind of funny but the next night you make up for it. What I experienced was scary. When you don't sleep for nights on end you feel crazy. Your body starts shutting down and you feel like you are on drugs. I was so desperate I called my dr and begged him to give me something to make me sleep.

I can only imagine...being who Michael was and having all those shows coming up...the practices and the strenuous work. I can imagine him being very desperate for sleep and wanting help.

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suga10 said:

You can look healthy, you can seem like you're on track, that's why people are trying to understand how he died but autopsy results showed he had injection wounds all over his body, meaning he was injected with a lot of those medications just so his body could take the stress of doing all those shows.

I feel had he just done five or ten as he originally was going to do, he wouldn't have worked so hard. But also I think the layoff from performing also got to him in the end. He couldn't avoid the Jackie Wilson signs he claimed he was trying to avoid.
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Timmy84 said:

Yeah its a damn shame.

And he never thought once that these medications would take his life by accident leaving his kids parentless.

In that way, he was an irresponsible father.
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Timmy84 said:

I don't have a problem putting on my tin foil hat and saying that it could be possible that AEG could've been involved in some hanky panky involving insurance, a "tribute" show and the recently revealed rehearsal footage. The fact that Michael had a "known drug dependency" made it that.much.easier. Then again, i'm a fan of conspiracy theories.

Timmy84 said:

I thought that was said to be a hoax.

noimageatall said:

Some friends said Michael was seeking that help to be asleep. That's probably why he insisted on getting that drug to help him sleep. If he indeed used it, he sure "slept".

noimageatall said:

Brian Oxman (yeah I know, lol) said that there were wounds visible on his body and he knew he was taking prescriptions. I guess the second autopsy was to make sure it was true. The hoaxes were the bald head and the rumor he only ingested pills and not food in his body.

Timmy84 said:

And Anesthesia was no the way out. God WTF was Mike thinking.

Ughhhh

Timmy84 said:

Rogue588 said:

It's easy for people to believe it. I don't. But I think since Michael agreed to it, he would do anything to live up to the pressure that was stacked on him. These conspiracy theories are kinda ridiculous tho.

suga10 said:

Heh, I know you'll get some comments for that but in a way I can't say I disagree. But I don't think he knew he would die like that, as you said.

Timmy84 said:

Lisa Marie did say that MJ predicted he would die like Elvis

Timmy84 said:

Brian Oxman no longer speaks for the family

Rogue588 said:

I don't know if I can believe AEG was involved but they definitely looked the other way.

Did anyone read this

http://news.sky.com/skyne...Drugs_Hell

suga10 said:

How odd because like what has already been said here, Elvis was going to start another U.S. tour when he died from a prescription overdose. I wonder if the official cause to MJ's death will be similar to Elvis' when it first came out. When he died, they claimed cardiac arrhythmia when it was really polypharmacy. Ironically Elvis' first death reports said he also died of cardiac arrest/heart failure.

JackieBlue said:

Randy Phillips hasn't been talking much lately

suga10 said:

Lord. Now that Matt fellow is talking again? Another "friend" coming out the woodwork. Dude, just shut up, Matt.

bboy87 said:

When was he fired?

this is all so depressing

Just a question.

It always seemed like this painkiller mess has been going on for many years, but it seemed like it wasn't getting in the way of MJ's own professional work from 1985-1993. He was always on the roll with getting his stuff done on schedule- albums, endorsements, tours, etc. etc.

Later on things changed, the painkillers became the bigger priority than professional work.


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suga10 said:

Funny that you mention this. My friend said he first noticed something was wrong in 1993. That was the first time he saw signs.

JackieBlue said:

I'm guess he wasn't a severe painkiller addict before 1993, although he was still addicted

suga10 said:

I don't know. Was he not an addict or was he just getting started. At the time we thought it was alcohol and maybe it was but it was the first of seeing that something was a little off.

JackieBlue said:

I guess the 1993 allegations were really the end of Michael Jackson I think that's probably what messed it all up for him.
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/a...ased_music



NEW YORK – Michael Jackson had a mountain of unreleased recordings in the vault when he died — music that is almost certain to be packaged and repackaged for his fans in the years to come.

The material includes unused tracks from studio sessions of some of Jackson's best albums, as well as more recently recorded songs made with Senegalese R&B singer and producer Akon and Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am.

"There are dozens and dozens of songs that did not end up on his albums," said Tommy Mottola, who from 1998 to 2003 was chairman and CEO of Sony Music, which owns the distribution rights to Jackson's music. "People will be hearing a lot of that unreleased material for the first time ever. There's just some genius and brilliance in there."

The releases, Mottola said, "could go on for years and years — even more than Elvis."

Since Jackson's death Thursday, there has been an enormous, almost unprecedented demand for the King of Pop's music. Nielsen SoundScan said Wednesday that three of his records — "Number Ones," "Essential Michael Jackson" and "Thriller — were the best-selling albums of the week, and 2.3 million tracks of his have been downloaded in the U.S. alone.

When a music star of Jackson's stature dies, labels typically comb through their archives to pull out anything they can release. New compilations of recordings by performers such as Elvis, Tupac and Jeff Buckley are still released nearly every year.

Mottola, who has described himself as the "shepherd and gatekeeper" of Jackson's catalog and is familiar with it better than anyone, said that for every album Jackson made — including classics like 1979's "Off the Wall" and 1982's "Thriller" — he recorded several tracks that didn't make it onto the records.

(Mottola had only laudatory things to say about Jackson, who criticized Mottola in 2002 as a racist. Among those who defended Mottola at the time was the Rev. Al Sharpton.)

The details of who owns Jackson's unreleased music and concert footage are not entirely clear. Sony Music declined to comment. A person involved with the label who requested anonymity said no new projects or compilations are being planned yet.

The Jackson family has not publicly discussed plans for Jackson's catalog. In a 2002 will filed in court Wednesday, the pop star left his entire estate to a family trust, with his mother and his children named as beneficiaries.

Steve Gordon, an entertainment lawyer and author of "The Future of the Music Business," worked at Sony Music during the 1990s. He said he was at Sony when Jackson's last contract was negotiated, though he acknowledged it could have recently been updated.

Gordon said Jackson owns some of his master recordings, while others are owned in partnership with Sony. Regardless, he said, Sony retains exclusive distribution rights for anything Jackson produced during the term of their contract.

Gordon said he expects Sony's Legacy Recordings division to do something similar to what it did with Elvis and create a division purely for Jackson's catalog.

"They've done every kind of configuration to try to squeeze more money out of the catalog with Elvis and they'll do it with Michael Jackson — be sure of it," Gordon said. "I imagine that there's a ... load of concert recordings that may or may not have been released."

Jackson's last original album was 2001's "Invincible." His 2005 child molestation trial and other controversies distracted him from recording, but he was active in recent years.

He died just weeks before he was to perform 50 concerts at London's O2 arena in what was supposed to be his comeback. He had also begun working on new material.

Two weeks before he died, he wrapped up work on an elaborate production dubbed the "Dome Project," which could be the final finished video piece overseen by Jackson. Two people with knowledge of the project confirmed its existence Monday to The Associated Press on condition they not be identified because they signed confidentiality agreements.

Four sets were constructed for Jackson's production, including a cemetery recalling his famous "Thriller" video. Shooting for the project lasted from June1 to June 9. Now in post-production, the project is expected to be completed next month.

Last year, Jackson released "Thriller 25," an album marking the 25th anniversary of the album. It included the new song "For All Time," as well as five remixes that involved will.i.am, Kanye West, Akon and Fergie.

The Black Eyed Peas frontman will.i.am has said he and Jackson recorded several songs together. He told the BBC on Monday that Jackson had possession of their demos, and that the songs "demanded all the people to the dance floor."

Akon had hoped to complete an album with Jackson once he finished his London concerts. The singer said they used to meet in Las Vegas whenever they had the time, and would talk on the phone constantly about ideas for the album.

Akon said they never actually completed a song except for "Hold My Hand," which leaked last year. "All the other songs were just ideas," Akon said.

He said he will keep the song fragments — a chorus here, a verse there — "locked up in the vault" until the Jackson family decides how to proceed. He said it could be worked into a tribute album.

"It was all positive records — songs to uplift people, songs to make people think about the problems in life," Akon said. "It was all about bringing people together."

JackieBlue said:

He got started in 1984 but I think he controlled his dosages back then. Hell he was abusing his body anyways by not eating every Sundays and fasting. He had to be rushed to a hospital in 1990 for chest pains because of it. He didn't get addicted until the first allegations in 1993. That's when the "change" in him started and he never fully came back.