i didn't even have to read any further than her name. the name alone screams "batshit fan".

In the days that have followed Michael Jackson’s death, consumers have been flocking to any media featuring the King of Pop. Though final SoundScan sales numbers won’t be available until Wednesday, Billboard reports that at least three of Mr. Jackson’s albums, “Number Ones,” “The Essential Michael Jackson” and “Thriller,” are on track to sell more than 100,000 copies each in the week that ended on Sunday. With the Black Eyed Peas’ “The E.N.D.” likely to sell less than 100,000 units in that same week, it will be the first time that a back catalog album has outsold the No. 1 album on the current Billboard chart.

Also, BET said Tuesday in a news release that its “BET Awards 09” show on Sunday, which featured numerous tributes to Mr. Jackson and his music, drew 10.65 million total viewers, making it the highest rated basic cable broadcast of the year so far, and the biggest audience in BET history.
http://artsbeat.blogs.nyt...ons-death/

utopia7 said:

Right. I wonder how well did they know their grandchildren, which really fucks it up. Hell both Joe and Katherine could die by next year and then where does that lead a 12-year-old boy, 11-year-old girl and a 7-year-old boy?

Timmy84 said:

attack doves

From MSN:


Jacksons: No public viewing at Neverland
July 1, 2009, 4:16 PM EST

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- A Jackson family spokesman says a public memorial for Michael Jackson is in the works, but it won't be held at the late pop star's Neverland Ranch.

"Contrary to previous news reports, the Jackson family is officially stating that there will be no public or private viewing at Neverland," the family said in a statement. "Plans are underway regarding a public memorial for Michael Jackson, and we will announce those plans shortly."





***Wow this would suck If you already have your plane ticket and hotel room, geez I wish they would make up their minds.

Timmy84 said:

I don't know but I wonder if they even asked the children whom they feel close to
or what they would like , yes children must go where told it would be a good gesture to include them. I did not read that will I scrolled right past it.

I would hope specifics are made in regards to the children's future

BSK3478 said:

Just imagine it like "The Birds" but only attacking Joe.

PaisleyPark5083 said:

I bet that makes people who actually had tents over the place feel real silly now. I feel a backlash is coming any minute now.

Timmy84 said:

*mental pic of joe running away from a bunch of doves, throwing blu-ray discs at them*

Timmy84 said:

Honestly his death is still a big mystery. No one really knows what happened.

Given the people Michael has been around in the past, I wouldn't be surprised if someone was trying to get a piece of his money.
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BSK3478 said:

And using poor Londell McMillian or Al Sharpton (well that's a good target, lol) as a shield.

"I'm NOT gonna die! Joe Jackson is gonna live!"

suga10 said:

They were getting a piece of his money when he was living. Even backstabbers of his wouldn't have plotted anything against him.

suga10 said:

neither would i. you know there's gonna be people coming outta the woodwork with their hand out, talkin' about "gimme what's mine!".

BSK3478 said:

I predict that to happen tomorrow.

BSK3478 said:

Well I'm honestly getting really tired about the media saying that Michael was suicidal and wanted to die because he couldn't do 50 shows.

There's so many contradictory reports going around regarding his physical state. People working with Michael for the Tour are saying he was in excellent shape. Then all these other people are saying he's was a druggie.

Its so frustrating to here all this.

Jackson Nurse to Michael: "This Is Not Safe Medicine"
Today 8:23 AM PDT by Josh Grossberg



Was Michael Jackson so desperate to get some shut-eye that he ignored the advice of his nurse when it came to sedatives?

While we won't know definitively for several weeks, when toxicology tests come back, the King of Pop's nutritionist, Cherilyn Lee, is making the media rounds claiming she warned Jackson about certain drugs just five days before his sudden death from cardiac arrest.

In an interview with ABC News, Lee, also a registered nurse, said Jackson was suffering terribly from insomnia and practically begged her for Diprivan, a general anesthetic normally administered in hospitals to knock people out before surgeries and not routinely prescribed to patients with sleeping disorders.

"He said, 'Find me an anesthesiologist—I don't care how much money they want—find me an anesthesiologist to be with me here overnight and give me this IV,' " she recounted.

Lee said the 50-year-old singer complained his body felt cold on one side and hot on the other.

She said she warned him about potentially lethal side effects, including cardiac arrest if combined with other prescription medication.

"I said, 'This is not a safe medicine, please don't take this.'

" 'I look at you, Michael, and I've been around you long enough now, I love you as family. I would not give this to anyone.' "

A practitioner of holistic medicine, Lee said she has worked with many celebrities in L.A. She met Jackson in January and, she says, mainly treated his children for colds.

While Jackson seemed to be adamant about getting his hands on Diprivan, Lee admitted she never actually saw him take the drug. When she asked him what doctor may have prescribed him the sleeping agent in the past, he wouldn't say.

Investigators for the Los Angeles County Coroner's Office have confirmed to E! News that they removed prescription medication from Jackson's rented Holmby Hills house where he passed away, but refused to identify the drugs.

Media speculation has focused on Dr. Conrad Murray, Jackson's personal physician, who discovered the superstar unconscious in bed and administered CPR.

Edward Chertoff, an attorney for Murray, issued a statement over the weekend denying that his client gave the entertainer certain painkillers, specifically Demerol and OxyContin (which had been named as possible causes of death in various news reports) but making no mention of Diprivan.

Timmy84 said:

Wasn't Chernoff saying that Murray didn't give MJ any Demerol???

I'm soo confused now.
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suga10 said:

yeah, it's strange.

But from the last pics and from all the pics made this year I think MJ looked good and fit.

suga10 said:

Dr. Murray's lawyer claimed Murray never gave him Demerol though it was reported he had used Demerol in the past. Apparently when coroners took away MJ's drugs, no one said what type of drugs it was.

Timmy84 said:

See, I know nothing about biology, but is it possible for a body to be cold and hot on different sides?

I´ve seen this report on CNN and they said they cannot confirm whether this lady really worked for Mike or not.

graecophilos said:

And the man would not have committed to all these shows if he knew he wasn't capable of doing the shows?

That's why I'm having a hard time believing this bullshit about Michael being suicidal, and even Raymone said on Geraldo that Michael was no wear close to being suicidal.

dag said:

Yeah I never seen that woman before.

Michael looked skinny as usual in the last pictures.

And I hate how the media acts like he was supposed to do 50 shows in 50 days.
These concerts would have been spread over eight months.
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suga10 said:

But said months earlier that Michael wasn't capable of doing the shows.

See what I mean about people saying contradictory things about Michael? Raymone was on that "MJ is not well to do it" bandwagon now she joins the "how could Michael die" ship?

Londell was highly critical of the nurse yesterday on Larry King Live, along with Anderson Cooper.

Joe Jackson's relationship with son Michael Jackson was complicated and sad

Tuesday, June 30th 2009, 6:51 AM

ENCINO, Calif. - After telling the world of his pride in his dead son and love for his grieving grandchildren, Joe Jackson turned back into the family compound.

He had a smile that made him all the more a walking question for which there are no simple answers.

"He's still a mystery man to me and he may always be one," Michael Jackson said of his father in his 1988 autobiography.

In this book edited by Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, he reported that his earliest memory of his father was of him coming home from working in a steel mill with a big bag of glazed donuts for all the kids.

"My brothers and I could really eat back then and that bag would disappear with a snap of the fingers," Jackson recalled. "He used to take us all to the merry-go-round in the park."

But, even before his first memory, there were beatings.

"My mother told me I would fight back even when I was very little, but I don't remember that," the son wrote. "I do remember running under tables to get away from him and him getting angrier."

In rehearsals, a fumbled note or a missed step could draw the father's wrath.

"If you messed up you got hit, sometimes with a switch, sometimes with a belt," Jackson wrote. "Dad would make me so mad at him that I'd try to get back at him and get beaten all the more."

Michael Jackson concluded, "We had a turbulent relationship," adding, "Most of the time we just rehearsed. We always rehearsed."

The father would tell the kids talent got you nowhere unless you worked and planned. He must have seen vindication of his harsh methods as the Jackson 5 rose to fame.

He also must have been keenly aware of how much tougher life would have been for them if they were back in Gary, Ind., with him working at a failing mill, destined to be jobless, the kids liable to fall victim to the street and harshness far beyond what he sometimes dished out.

Maybe the father was blind to what it all was doing to his son, as blind as the audiences who applauded and cheered and never paused to consider that maybe a child should have a childhood.

"I remember singing at the top of my voice and dancing with real joy and working too hard for a child," Michael Jackson wrote. "I wasn't formed to be Michael the lead singer."

As he grew into Michael the solo singer and the biggest star of all, he sought to re-form himself. He who had fought back so defiantly became fragile and faint-voiced. He quit the family compound for an estate he dubbed Neverland and bought a merry-go-round like his father had taken him to as a child. He remade his face to look like nobody's son.

But Michael Jackson still could not escape himself. He may or may not have been taking narcotics, but he was without question taking any number of anti-anxiety drugs. He who had loved that bag of glazed donuts his dad brought home nearly every day ceased to eat. He was almost skeletal at the end.

At Monday's press conference outside the compound, Joe Jackson spoke of a second autopsy, but nobody was talking about the causes of death no medical examiner would ever report.

To be fair to Joe Jackson, he could have been standing outside a rundown house in Gary with a family whose sufferings had been met with the indifference offered millions who have fallen victims to racism and poverty.

He instead turned back into a compound whose entrance had become a shrine of flowers and missives left by some of the millions who mourn his son's passing.

As he rejoined his grandchildren, he had a smile that I hoped meant he truly had been touched by this outpouring. I also hoped he had learned that a kid who is hit for whatever reasons ends up as a kid who is hit.

In that, there is no mystery.

Timmy84 said:

Let's hope she was just pissed off over the lawsuit deal, and that's why she said the things she said.

I just found this whole thing so confusing.

Lou Ferrigino said all this stuff about MJ had a treadmill at his home and was really training hard
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suga10 said:

That just reminded me: Isaac Hayes died while he was on a treadmill.

And if anything Raymone is trying to cover up from her own bullshit. Now she praises Michael but she was bashing him a few weeks ago. Her sob story is bullshit really.

Timmy84 said:

She was being extremely defensive for Michael on Geraldo last week when some of those thugs came on the show last week to create sensationalism.
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suga10 said:

Whatever, lol. Extremely defensive yet sued him for stupid shit. I wonder if she's still gonna sue the estate.

Anyway, TMZ (yeah I know) said MJ had injection marks all over his body and said that the drug that apparently and rumored to have caused his passing wasn't a drug you could administer to anyone at home.