vainandy said:

Oh yeah! I definitely think if it's true than Joe Jackson needs to be accountable for all of his actions and pronto.

kdj997 said:

Can you really imagine MJ masturbating?

I was also surprised he mentioned Diana Ross as guardian considering that she's getting older too.

In my opinion, Janet would have been ideal. She never seemed interested in giving birth to children, so it would make sense that she'd rather raise children.

Even if she has a career of her own. I think she'd give the kids a good upbringing.
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I was at WalMart, Target and Best Buy in my neighborhood and there are no Michael Jackson music or videos/movies to be found.

I love the idea of a simultaneous global concert to be held in major cities around the globe like Live 8.

Timmy84 said:

yes, but i don't get your level of negativity about it.

kibbles said:

Maybe because I think that Michael was never loved by a lot of people probably? It's a nice gesture but I just can't really understand it. Guess that's just me. Plus also Diana is up there in age too. He at least couldn't get someone who was "close" to him who was his age or younger if not his family?
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kdj997 said:

clearly, you believe every accusation from everyone who ever had anything salacious to say about mj. we could spend a whole day knocking down each one of your 'credible' accusers, but i think we're past that. as the moderator of this thread posted, you need to take that elsewhere or risk being banned.
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What about Grace?

Timmy84 said:

Madonna could adopt them.

I wonder bout MJ's kids education.

I'd like to see Joe get mad because he was left out of the will, badmouth Michael publicly on television, and then watch the crazy ass fans chase his ass from one end of that Neverland Ranch to the other with the dove lady's birds flying above him while he's running dropping down shit bombs.

vainandy said:

I'm sure he's already pissed off

lilgish said:

I´ve tried to find it on youtube for ya, but i only found this. It starts with im saying goodbye to her.


There are few videos from this event, but that part with the little girl is missing. BTW, I´d so love to see Mike and Marcel perform together. That would be pure poetry and magic onstage.


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vainandy said:

Shit the dove lady should get one of the doves and have it peck hard at Joe's head!

Timmy84 said:

Katherine J. could have divorced from him, since the 80s their trouble was known, so the whole keep your face stuff is stupid.

KJ lives in comfort zone with Joe, she's not alone and they may have sex at times.

If Joe was that bad, the whole family could ditch him.

Something interesting about the will:

Beneficaries from the Jackson family


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graecophilos said:

Katherine & Joe had been separate for years tho.

suga10 said:

Hmm, so he only trusted some of his cousins and nephews, huh?

Timmy84 said:

Sometimes friends are better than family members!!! He didn't list any siblings to take the children for a reason, he knew them better than we did.
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Chic35 said:

I'd say the same about Liz Taylor, it's a nice gesture. Anyway we'll see what becomes of this will tomorrow and if it changed from the 2002 one.

Custody Of Jackson Children May Be Marred By Bankruptcy Filing

By Melanie Cohen

Things may not go as easy as 1-2-3 for the mother of late pop icon Michael Jackson, whose will is reportedly said to leave custody of his children to his mother.

According to the Associated Press (via the Morning Call), Jackson’s will was to be filed in Los Angeles on Wednesday, and a person with knowledge about the document said it gives custody of Jackson’s three children to his mother. But trying to gain final custody may not be a thriller, because Katherine and Joe Jackson filed for bankruptcy protection in 1999.

Experts say Jackson’s parents’ personal bankruptcy could work against Katherine Jackson getting control over her son’s children and estate in the long run. According to court documents, the Jacksons entered Chapter 7 protection listing almost $24 million in debts. RadarOnline reported that the Jacksons owed more than $34,000 on a 1994 Mercedes, more than $60,000 on a 1998 Land Rover and more than $36,000 on a Land Rover Discovery. They also owed about $150,000 in income taxes to the state of California and the IRS, and they owed more than $20 million in two lawsuit judgments. The bankruptcy ended in March 2007.

Beth Kaufman, a Washington attorney who deals with estate tax issues, told the AP that the bankruptcy filing may hurt Katherine Jackson’s attempt to gain final custody. “I think it would be a negative factor but not necessarily a disqualifier,” she said. “It could indicate that she is not capable of sound financial management.”

On Monday, Katherine Jackson was granted temporary custody of her son’s children by Judge Mitchell Beckloff as a response to documents by the Jackson family saying Michael Jackson died without a valid will. Beckloff also gave her temporary guardianship over her son’s personal property.

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Sounds like Michael's parents were just as clueless with finances as he was, probably more so than him.
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Oh, I totally agree. The only thing I wonder about is if he has had any contact with Diana Ross in years and if he has, has he even asked her. If he hasn't had any contact with her since the 1980s and wants this, then he's crazy as hell.

I just heard this on the radio. The Game ft. Chris Brown Usher P Diddy - Better On The Other Side [Official MJ Tribute Song]

vainandy said:

my thought exactly.

vainandy said:

Right. I would've loved it if he had named MACAULAY CULKIN as the kids' legal guardian. Wasn't he named one of the godfathers of his first two children?

Chic35 said:

I haven't heard it but someone describe the song and one of the most important lyrics went as follows:

"Michael Jackson was my n***a."

suga10 said:

i can't roll my eyes hard enough over that. fuck that shit.

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BSK3478 said:

It's sick, isn't it? How gullible have we become as a country to even think someone would intentionally kill Michael? COME ON! The man had a known drug dependency and he refused to see the effects since the intake was marginal but when you use a powerful drug along with other less lethal drugs and want to take them, what did they think was going to happen?

I would agree with Grace staying on as an employee to help Katherine with the kids. I mean I just think she is up in age , and what soon to be teenager wan'ts to be around their grandmother whom they hardly know. I loved hanging with my grandparents they were young in spirit.


wow these kids are going to need therapy