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Reply #870 posted 07/01/09 11:19am

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Jesus Christ... disbelief
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Reply #871 posted 07/01/09 11:25am

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Another conspiracy?

HMV and the like aren't exactly rushing to re-stock after selling out all of MJ's stuff.

Or is it Sony not rushing their pressing plants? confused


I wonder if it is just more profitable for them to force people to buy digital media? They may be concerned with the availability of downloads, that people who couldn't by actual cds just purchased on line instead? Still 405,000 in four days is pretty amazing these days.



well they aren't going to just be able to go to print on 2 days notice, really.

also, isn't the "Essential Michael Jackson" set to be re-released (as "The Hits") already in the UK next Monday?
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Reply #872 posted 07/01/09 11:25am

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Construction workers and equipment at Neverland? The last photos I saw of Neverland showed a dilapidated mess. Dead trees, plants and grass. Falling down buildings and other structures. Does this mean they're fixing it up for the funeral?
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Reply #873 posted 07/01/09 11:31am

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Michael Jackson Fans Spend Night Outside Neverland Ranch
July 1, 2009

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Reply #874 posted 07/01/09 11:32am

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I'm sorry but I have held my tongue long enough. What the hell kind of crazy ass person would commit suicide over a damn musical entertainer?!! It's fine to love an entertainer but damn, this is fucking rediculous! If someone is that damn obsessed with an entertainer, they need to get a fucking life.

Where are these people's families? Do they have any friends other than the ones that are just as obsessed as they are? Do they work? What about their co-workers? Was there anybody around, not after Michael Jackson's death, but before it, that had the guts to tell them...."Look dammitt, you are obsessed and are becoming crazy as hell. Seek some professional help before you lose your damn mind". I know I'm sounding mean right now because I find this fucking rediculous but someone could have said something to them in a nice way that they think they are becoming a loony toon without using those exact words.

I be damned if I would kill myself over a family member, much less somebody on a damn TV screen or a record that I've never even met. I just don't understand it. Get some fucking strength! If you've got problems that you think that only that artist can relate to, talk to somebody in the real world. There's a lot of different types of people out there and somebody out there is similar to you other than just an entertainer on a TV screen. If there weren't somebody else out there similar, you would be that artist's only fan. And considering the billions of Michael Jackson fans out there, in the words of his own damn song...."You Are Not Alone".


Just hearing that makes me sick. I think it's callous on their part to commit suicide. I can't even feel sorry for them because they had the chance to heal but they choose to suffer. Can't have pity for people who deliberately do that.


If I can adjust and move on after my own mama dying, who I loved very much, then they sure as hell can adjust and move on after some entertainer dies that they've never even met. Hell, you don't see Katherine, Janet, Jermaine, LaToya or any of his own family members killing themselves over this. These are the people that are close to him and really know him. Hell, they are adjusting and living.
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Reply #875 posted 07/01/09 11:36am

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If I can adjust and move on after my own mama dying, who I loved very much, then they sure as hell can adjust and move on after some entertainer dies that they've never even met. Hell, you don't see Katherine, Janet, Jermaine, LaToya or any of his own family members killing themselves over this. These are the people that are close to him and really know him. Hell, they are adjusting and living.


Thank you.

Also, I loved the fact you used Joe's stupid quote in your signature. lol
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Reply #876 posted 07/01/09 11:37am

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Timmy84 said:

suga10 said:

sad



Jesus Christ... disbelief


the lipstick has to go away... no it's too late. sad
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Reply #877 posted 07/01/09 11:39am

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If I can adjust and move on after my own mama dying, who I loved very much, then they sure as hell can adjust and move on after some entertainer dies that they've never even met. Hell, you don't see Katherine, Janet, Jermaine, LaToya or any of his own family members killing themselves over this. These are the people that are close to him and really know him. Hell, they are adjusting and living.


that's true. those kinda people were sick. beinga fanATIC in this grade is sick.
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Reply #878 posted 07/01/09 11:42am

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



If I can adjust and move on after my own mama dying, who I loved very much, then they sure as hell can adjust and move on after some entertainer dies that they've never even met. Hell, you don't see Katherine, Janet, Jermaine, LaToya or any of his own family members killing themselves over this. These are the people that are close to him and really know him. Hell, they are adjusting and living.


Thank you.

Also, I loved the fact you used Joe's stupid quote in your signature. lol


I couldn't get over how stupid that sounded. I'm still laughing about it. For a minute there, I thought I was listening to George Bush. lol
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Reply #879 posted 07/01/09 11:47am

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I haven't been through all the pages that I missed but did y'all hear what CNN reported on the will a little while ago? If anything happens to Katherine, Michael wants Diana Ross to get the kids. At least I think I heard that right.
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Reply #880 posted 07/01/09 11:48am

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I haven't been through all the pages that I missed but did y'all here what CNN reported on the will a little while ago. If anything happens to Katherine, Michael wants Diana Ross to get the kids.


Yes, I read this. Diana's family (probably) just got alot bigger. I wonder how she and the kids are dealing.
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Reply #881 posted 07/01/09 11:51am

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vainandy said:

I haven't been through all the pages that I missed but did y'all here what CNN reported on the will a little while ago. If anything happens to Katherine, Michael wants Diana Ross to get the kids.


Yes, I read this. Diana's family (probably) just got alot bigger. I wonder how she and the kids are dealing.


I know he loved the hell out of her when he was younger but I didn't know he still kept in contact with her.
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Reply #882 posted 07/01/09 11:53am

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I know he loved the hell out of her when he was younger but I didn't know he still kept in contact with her.


She might be in for a surprise today! lol The kids are in touch for sure.
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Reply #883 posted 07/01/09 11:53am

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I know he loved the hell out of her when he was younger but I didn't know he still kept in contact with her.


Diana hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so how in the hell would she be given alternative custody!?

Don't make sense to me. Diana is a mother of five grown kids. Why trust Michael's kids to someone they barely even know? GTFOOH!

And if that was part of Michael's will, then he's crazier than I thought. Honestly, lol. lol If something happened to Katherine, wouldn't Rebbie, La Toya, Janet, Jermaine, etc. be the ones to take care of them? I mean they ARE Jacksons aren't they!? falloff
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Reply #884 posted 07/01/09 11:56am

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



I know he loved the hell out of her when he was younger but I didn't know he still kept in contact with her.


Diana hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so how in the hell would she be given alternative custody!?

Don't make sense to me. Diana is a mother of five grown kids. Why trust Michael's kids to someone they barely even know? GTFOOH!

And if that was part of Michael's will, then he's crazier than I thought. Honestly, lol. lol
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'Gtfooh' falloff I thought the same thing when I first heard it
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Reply #885 posted 07/01/09 11:58am

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disbelief disbelief disbelief disbelief

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...l-jackson/

First Crazy Claim in Jackson Case

Posted Jul 1st 2009 2:45PM by TMZ Staff

Michael JacksonMichael Jackson was married and his wife is demanding all of his property -- this according to a woman who just filed a petition in L.A. County Superior Court.

Nona Paris Lola Ankhesenamun Jackson, who lives in London, asks "that all my husband's properties, monies and assets must be transferred to me immediately" and "my husband's body must be returned to the coroner's body or the mortuary immediately."

Of course, there is no evidence this woman had any relationship whatsoever to Michael Jackson. She's had an active court case since December of last year, claiming she was married to the singer.

Nona also claims all of Michael's children are hers and that she didn't authorize them to live with Katherine Jackson.

She now claims, "Though he died to this earth he lives with my father [Satan the Devil] Khalid Lucifer."

The doc says "For any questions, I can be contacted at [email address removed] or leave my children alone."


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Reply #886 posted 07/01/09 11:59am

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



I know he loved the hell out of her when he was younger but I didn't know he still kept in contact with her.


Diana hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so how in the hell would she be given alternative custody!?

Don't make sense to me. Diana is a mother of five grown kids. Why trust Michael's kids to someone they barely even know? GTFOOH!

And if that was part of Michael's will, then he's crazier than I thought. Honestly, lol. lol If something happened to Katherine, wouldn't Rebbie, La Toya, Janet, Jermaine, etc. be the ones to take care of them? I mean they ARE Jacksons aren't they!? falloff
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I also think that Janet or Rebbie would be the best...I don´t know....Well, hopefully he knew what he was doing.
"When Michael Jackson is just singing and dancing, you just think this is an astonishing talent. And he has had this astounding talent all his life, but we want him to be floored as well. We really don´t like the idea that he could have it all."
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Reply #887 posted 07/01/09 12:02pm

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disbelief disbelief disbelief disbelief

First Crazy Claim in Jackson Case

Posted Jul 1st 2009 2:45PM by TMZ Staff

Michael JacksonMichael Jackson was married and his wife is demanding all of his property -- this according to a woman who just filed a petition in L.A. County Superior Court.

Nona Paris Lola Ankhesenamun Jackson, who lives in London, asks "that all my husband's properties, monies and assets must be transferred to me immediately" and "my husband's body must be returned to the coroner's body or the mortuary immediately."

Of course, there is no evidence this woman had any relationship whatsoever to Michael Jackson. She's had an active court case since December of last year, claiming she was married to the singer.

Nona also claims all of Michael's children are hers and that she didn't authorize them to live with Katherine Jackson.

She now claims, "Though he died to this earth he lives with my father [Satan the Devil] Khalid Lucifer."

The doc says "For any questions, I can be contacted at [email address removed] or leave my children alone."



we've heard from her in the past, yes?

I thought she'd be one of the suicides rolleyes
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Reply #888 posted 07/01/09 12:03pm

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



I know he loved the hell out of her when he was younger but I didn't know he still kept in contact with her.


Diana hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so how in the hell would she be given alternative custody!?

Don't make sense to me. Diana is a mother of five grown kids. Why trust Michael's kids to someone they barely even know? GTFOOH!

And if that was part of Michael's will, then he's crazier than I thought. Honestly, lol. lol If something happened to Katherine, wouldn't Rebbie, La Toya, Janet, Jermaine, etc. be the ones to take care of them? I mean they ARE Jacksons aren't they!? falloff
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Of course it doesn't make sense. But this is Michael Jackson here and he hasn't played with a full deck in years. In that childlike brain of his, he probably sees the same Diana Ross in his head that he remembered when he was a little boy before she had a lot more going on in her life. Whether she could or couldn't do it or not, has he even asked her if she could consider raising them if anything ever happened to him? That's what a grown up sane person would do. For all we know, she's probably never even met the kids.
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Reply #889 posted 07/01/09 12:04pm

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Timmy84 said:



Diana hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so how in the hell would she be given alternative custody!?

Don't make sense to me. Diana is a mother of five grown kids. Why trust Michael's kids to someone they barely even know? GTFOOH!

And if that was part of Michael's will, then he's crazier than I thought. Honestly, lol. lol If something happened to Katherine, wouldn't Rebbie, La Toya, Janet, Jermaine, etc. be the ones to take care of them? I mean they ARE Jacksons aren't they!? falloff
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I also think that Janet or Rebbie would be the best...I don´t know....Well, hopefully he knew what he was doing.


He didn't know what he was doing. Remember this was the period where Michael's mind wasn't all the way there.
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Reply #890 posted 07/01/09 12:06pm

Timmy84

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Of course it doesn't make sense. But this is Michael Jackson here and he hasn't played with a full deck in years. In that childlike brain of his, he probably sees the same Diana Ross in his head that he remembered when he was a little boy before she had a lot more going on in her life. Whether she could or couldn't do it or not, has he even asked her if she could consider raising them if anything ever happened to him? That's what a grown up sane person would do. For all we know, she's probably never even met the kids.


Two words: HELL NO.

Diana said she hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so I pretty much DOUBT that Diana even KNEW about this will. Besides he has a second will doesn't he? I don't know, this all sounds tacky and uncompromising. Michael probably did have a warped mind that he was still close to Diana. Hell the dude was as obsessed with her as some are over Michael. confused
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Reply #891 posted 07/01/09 12:10pm

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suga10 said:

disbelief disbelief disbelief disbelief

http://www.tmz.com/2009/0...l-jackson/

First Crazy Claim in Jackson Case

Posted Jul 1st 2009 2:45PM by TMZ Staff

Michael JacksonMichael Jackson was married and his wife is demanding all of his property -- this according to a woman who just filed a petition in L.A. County Superior Court.

Nona Paris Lola Ankhesenamun Jackson, who lives in London, asks "that all my husband's properties, monies and assets must be transferred to me immediately" and "my husband's body must be returned to the coroner's body or the mortuary immediately."

Of course, there is no evidence this woman had any relationship whatsoever to Michael Jackson. She's had an active court case since December of last year, claiming she was married to the singer.

Nona also claims all of Michael's children are hers and that she didn't authorize them to live with Katherine Jackson.

She now claims, "Though he died to this earth he lives with my father [Satan the Devil] Khalid Lucifer."

The doc says "For any questions, I can be contacted at [email address removed] or leave my children alone."


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she so made up all those names rolleyes
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Reply #892 posted 07/01/09 12:11pm

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dag said:

Timmy84 said:



Diana hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so how in the hell would she be given alternative custody!?

Don't make sense to me. Diana is a mother of five grown kids. Why trust Michael's kids to someone they barely even know? GTFOOH!

And if that was part of Michael's will, then he's crazier than I thought. Honestly, lol. lol If something happened to Katherine, wouldn't Rebbie, La Toya, Janet, Jermaine, etc. be the ones to take care of them? I mean they ARE Jacksons aren't they!? falloff
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I also think that Janet or Rebbie would be the best...I don´t know....Well, hopefully he knew what he was doing.


Janet has an ongoing music career so I think Rebbie would be the perfect choice. She would be around them a lot more and they could live a more normal life.
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Reply #893 posted 07/01/09 12:13pm

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Timmy84 said:

dag said:


I also think that Janet or Rebbie would be the best...I don´t know....Well, hopefully he knew what he was doing.


He didn't know what he was doing. Remember this was the period where Michael's mind wasn't all the way there.


Hell, that's on any average day of the week. lol
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Reply #894 posted 07/01/09 12:15pm

Timmy84

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Janet has an ongoing music career so I think Rebbie would be the perfect choice. She would be around them a lot more and they could live a more normal life.


Yeah Rebbie would be the perfect guardian. She's the heir apparent to her mother.
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Reply #895 posted 07/01/09 12:15pm

Timmy84

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Hell, that's on any average day of the week. lol


That's true too. lol
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Reply #896 posted 07/01/09 12:16pm

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



Of course it doesn't make sense. But this is Michael Jackson here and he hasn't played with a full deck in years. In that childlike brain of his, he probably sees the same Diana Ross in his head that he remembered when he was a little boy before she had a lot more going on in her life. Whether she could or couldn't do it or not, has he even asked her if she could consider raising them if anything ever happened to him? That's what a grown up sane person would do. For all we know, she's probably never even met the kids.


Two words: HELL NO.

Diana said she hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so I pretty much DOUBT that Diana even KNEW about this will. Besides he has a second will doesn't he? I don't know, this all sounds tacky and uncompromising. Michael probably did have a warped mind that he was still close to Diana. Hell the dude was as obsessed with her as some are over Michael. confused



I don't know how any of us can be so certain tho. I mean none of us are flies on the wall. How often has stuff come out that turned out to be the complete opposite of what we thought we knew or was reported.

Michael was working with Evan recently. While he and Diana may not have been kicking it I'm betting there was some communication there. Also I think Traci has had contact but not certain.

What we think and what the truth is are two different things. There’s a reason why Michael didn’t choose his sisters.
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Reply #897 posted 07/01/09 12:20pm

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"Life & Slime", "Ok", "In Touch" and "US Mag" are glossier versions of the "National Enema/ Enquirer". What were you expecting, fact-based journalism?
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Reply #898 posted 07/01/09 12:22pm

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Timmy84 said:

vainandy said:



Janet has an ongoing music career so I think Rebbie would be the perfect choice. She would be around them a lot more and they could live a more normal life.


Yeah Rebbie would be the perfect guardian. She's the heir apparent to her mother.




doesn't she already have her hands full raising all of Janet's secret children? lol
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Reply #899 posted 07/01/09 12:22pm

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Two words: HELL NO.

Diana said she hadn't spoken to Michael in YEARS so I pretty much DOUBT that Diana even KNEW about this will. Besides he has a second will doesn't he? I don't know, this all sounds tacky and uncompromising. Michael probably did have a warped mind that he was still close to Diana. Hell the dude was as obsessed with her as some are over Michael. confused



I don't know how any of us can be so certain tho. I mean none of us are flies on the wall. How often has stuff come out that turned out to be the complete opposite of what we thought we knew or was reported.

Michael was working with Evan recently. While he and Diana may not have been kicking it I'm betting there was some communication there. Also I think Traci has had contact but not certain.

What we think and what the truth is are two different things. There’s a reason why Michael didn’t choose his sisters.
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While that could be true, Michael cut himself off from the world (mainly because he didn't trust NOBODY). I love it how people suddenly come out of the blue claiming they work with him (maybe that was Michael because he hated it when people leaked info like that). Even if some of his siblings were as messed up as he was, doesn't mean I wouldn't trust them to someone who used to be close during the Motown days but lost contact afterwards. It may have been real recent that Michael and Evan began "collaborating" as it may, so as much as we think we know, same can be said about Michael during the time the will was first posted in 2002. This wasn't the 2009 will.
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