seeingvoices12 said:

Mick should ask his "dentist friend" why he chose to settle out of court and accept a huge payout from Michael If he truly believed that his son was molested,he should have taken this case to trial.

ehuffnsd said:

You're assuming MJ's problems are of a similar order to yours. You're lucky if therapy works for you, but Mike's problems were not the kind you could share with ANYONE, even a therapist (for obvious reasons).

The rest of your post is spot on though. Joseph is a scumbag of the first order, but he is NOT TO BLAME for Michael's issues. Joseph didn't treat Michael any worse than he treated the other kids. In fact, Michael got far less abuse than them because he didn't mess up as much as them. By all accounts Marlon got beaten ten times more than Mike, yet Marlon did not turn out to be a weirdo. Here is the dirty little secret that's been ignored. Michael was a..... HAPPY CHILD! He was outgoing and fun loving. He only became unhappy and withdrawn when adolescence kicked in and he became aware of his sexuality. Years later when he needed an excuse for his disturbing lifestyle he used the "lost childhood" cliche and turned his father into a scapegoat.

I don't know what kind of backgrounds you guys have, but in my experience getting beaten by one or both of your parents is EXTREMELY COMMON! I don't advocate it myself, but it is not something that damages people for life.

SoulAlive said:

Yeah, he is just like his friend, this is sickening , and disgusting.

Seriously , who is the fuck is Mick Hucknall ? Never heard of him and don't want to know.

Maybe Ms. Ross DID let him touch her in the morning

Will.I.Am talks MJ & Prince

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It's from a German magazine. He played with Prince on stage and watched the rest of the show with MJ

Here is the translation I found:



Quote:
Sp: You've also worked with Prince? The man has shocked the recording industry, by giving away his new CD in Great Britain for free with a newspaper.

Will.i.am: A visionaire. I performed with him. A few months ago,I was with the Black Eyed Peas in Las Vegas. Prince calls me, he played in a Casino and asks ", you want to perform with me tonight?" Sure, I say, of course! On the next day his assistant called me and said: "Prince would like to know if you want to come along this evening too." Want to? What's more cool than to play with Prince? Right, to play with him two days in a row! A few minutes later I get a further call: "Hey, it's Mike, wat are you doing?" Mike? Michael Jackson? Wow! He had changed studios at that time, from Ireland to Las Vegas. I say: "Hey, I'm playing with Prince here tonight." - "Prince? That is great!" - "you should come!" - "really? That would be cool!" - "that would be really cool!" - "Okay, I'll come." Imagine that : I'm playing with Prince, and Michael Jackson sits in the audience! Holy ish! What chance is there to get a call from Prince and then one from Michael Jackson within ten minutes ?


Sp: that chance is zero.

Will.i.am: Right. Okay, I head for the concert in the early evening and - get stuck in traffic! I think by myself, @#$%, this is the worst time to be stuck ! So I jump out of the car and start to run. I make it at the last second into the club. Everything goes smoothly, after three minutes I 'm back from the stage, Prince still yells in the microphone "Give it up for Will.i.am!", I creep into the hall and sit down to the table of - Michael Jackson. So he really came! "What did you think of me?", I ask him. He answers: "I did not know that you rapped." Now I ask you? The man lets me fly to bloody Ireland for a few photographs , and he doesn't even know that I am not only a producer, but also a rapper! I say: "Have you never heard my music, or looked at my videos? I @#$#%' am the main rapper of the Black Eyed Peas!" Anyways. Besides Michael Jackson sits the actor Chris Tucker, and then Prince comes down from the stage to us...


Sp: ... and sees Michael Jackson sitting at the table with you?

Will.i.am: Yo. He had his bass still strapped on and stops at our table. So there we sit : Michael Jackson, Chris Tucker and I. Prince stands directly before Michael Jackson and improvises on the bass: Slap! He does nothing- nothing! - and says nothing! Simply plays . What a scene! When Prince is again back on stage, Michael Jackson says to me: "Prince played his bass in the middle of my face! What's up with that?" Now now, I say: "you are finally incognito here! Imagine that Prince would have said: ', and by the way Michael Jackson sits here.' The people are already excited because of Prince, let alone, they would know that you are also here!" Yep, that was it then, the craziest night of my life.
Sp: And when you tell this story, nobody believes you.

Will.i.am: I would not even believe it! But I have to say: It is true. Each word. The next morning I had breakfast with Michael Jackson, we worked a bit on songs together - and that was the last time that I have seen him.

seeingvoices12 said:

I think he's the lead singer of Simply Red?

Photo of Jermaine

midnightmover said:

What a waste of post, despite Mj's death you never changed.

First target of Michael Jackson's obsession with boys says: 'What he did was wrong.. but I forgive him'


Terry George leapt up excitedly as the phone rang. It was 9pm and he knew exactly who it would be… the most unlikely best friend a 13-year-old boy could have.

It was none other than his pop idol Michael Jackson, who had been calling his Leeds home like clockwork for the past five months after striking up a bizarre relationship.

But this time the besotted young fan’s excitement soon turned to shock and embarrassment as Jacko’s voice crackled down the line.

“He’d ring at 9pm on the dot three times a week and we became like best friends,” Terry recalled. “But on this night he sounded different. The line went quiet and I asked if he was still there.

“Then, suddenly out of nowhere, he asked me if I masturbated and that if I did, did I use cream? I was puzzled

and said no. I said I didn’t know what he meant.

“When I paused he said, ‘Would you believe that I am doing it right now?’ and I could hear down the line he was making strange noises. It made me feel confused and uncomfortable.”

Yesterday Terry – now 42 and a multi-millionaire businessman – said: “Michael was a musical legend and genius. But what he did when I was a teenager was wrong.”

He was the first victim of the star’s obsession with children which would ultimately cripple his career.

Jacko, accused of abusing several young boys, was never convicted of any crime. But multi-million-dollar pay-offs to families and a warped insistence that it was OK to share his bed with boys has left a permanent stain on his legacy.

It was in 1993 that young Jordan Chandler claimed in a police statement he was abused at the singer’s Neverland ranch.

Yet more disturbing allegations followed. Jacko’s obsession with children started when he befriended Terry in 1979.

They met when the youngster turned up at his hotel and asked his idol, then 21, for an interview.

“He invited me into his hotel room and we got on brilliantly,” Terry said. “As I went to leave he invited me to hang out with him the next day at the hotel.

“We would sit and giggle and laugh together. It was clear he was happier to be around children than adults and enjoyed their company.”

Before Jacko flew out he asked Terry for his telephone number so they could keep in touch.

“It made me feel special. I got a buzz knowing I had a direct line to a celebrity so I agreed and he promised he would ring me.”

Just a week later came the first of Jacko’s regular calls from America. Terry recalled: “He’d often ask if my parents were in. And when I explained that they had gone out to play bingo he would relax.

“We would chat for hours about silly stuff.He’d sing songs to me down the phone and we’d talk nonsense. We became like best friends.”

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Then, only months into their friendship, Jacko abused his trust with the call encouraging Terry to pleasure himself.

“He knew that I wasn’t happy with what he had done and that I felt uncomfortable about it.”

However, they stayed in touch, taking turns to call. That ended when Terry rang up a massive bill and his parents’ line got cut off. In 1981 they met face-to-face again in the UK – but this time Jacko was frosty. “I’ve no idea why his attitude towards me had changed,” Terry said.

They lost contact soon after. Then, suddenly in 1993, Terry got a call from LA detectives on the Chandler case.

Terry said: “The police told me that they felt Michael’s behaviour started with his friendship with me.

“Although I knew what he did was wrong I believed him to be a very confused person rather than a paedophile.”

Yet the investigation which followed suggested a very different story. Dozens of children and former staff, including cancer survivor Gavin Arvizo, came forward claiming he’d abused kids.

He was accused of forcing kids to drink “Jesus Juice” – wine in Coke cans – and watch porn in a hidden room off his bedroom.

His alleged victims claimed the King of Pop pleasured himself in front of them – and insisted on “teaching” them how to do it.

At a trial that followed, Jacko was found not guilty of all the charges.

Yet friends say the claims sent him retreating into his own secluded world.

Earlier this year in a shock call to Terry, Jacko laid bare his misery.

Terry said: “He phoned me out of the blue and we both made our peace about what had happened in the past. I’ve forgiven him for what happened.

“He told me he had been under a lot of pressure recently. I think he was a very confused man who never grew up and lived a tormented life.”

He went on: “He said that people were forced to say things that they later regret.

“But he insisted his love for children was entirely innocent.”

Terry also revealed that Jacko had taken a strong interest in the website he’d founded, Gonetoo soon.org – where users post tributes to people who die young.

“He had been on the site and said he was touched to see some of the messages,” he said. “It had left him very sad and emotional.

“It’s unbelievable that three months on he is dead. After all the strain and torment he has lived through I thought he would live forever. And I am sad that he is gone.”

nick.owens@sundaymirror.co.uk

JayJai said:

I read he's Trinidadian.
http://www.caribdaily.com...inidadian/

suga10 said:

That Frank Dileo?

seeingvoices12 said:

Mick should ask his "dentist friend" why he chose to settle out of court and accept a huge payout from Michael If he truly believed that his son was molested,he should have taken this case to trial.

graecophilos said:

I chose "Miles Away" because it's a sad,somber song and while the lyrics don't really relate to MJ or his death,I still think it would be appropriate.

TonyVanDam said:

exactly cause they are two totally different people. some people are just stronger than others. that doesn't make the weaker person bad

SoulAlive said:

Why can't MJ fanatics get it in their heads that greedy parents who value millions over criminal prosecutions exist? You're all so eager to believe a pop star over a child claiming abuse.

These "monsters" may well send their children out as bait to Neverland but that doesn't alter the fact they earned enough prosecution ready evidence to get a $20m payout which is at best suspcious and at worst an admission of guilt.

cdcgold said:

And why do you call him Marion? That's female name, his is MarLon.

from TMZ.com

We've learned Michael Jackson was not the biological father of any of his children. And Debbie Rowe is not the biological mother of the two kids she bore for Michael.
All three children were conceived in vitro -- outside the womb.

Multiple sources deeply connected to the births tell us Michael was not the sperm donor for any of his kids. Debbie's eggs were not used. She was merely the surrogate, and paid well for her services in the births of Michael Jr. and Paris.

In the case of Prince Michael II (the youngest), we're told the surrogate was never told of the identity of the "receiving parent" -- Michael Jackson. Three days after Prince was born at Grossmont Hospital in San Diego County, Jackson's lawyer came to the hospital to pick the baby up and deliver him to Michael.

We do not know if Jackson chose the sperm or egg donors or if he even knew who they were.

Although Rowe is not the biological mother, it's not a slam dunk that she would lose a custody battle. This type of case has never been litigated in California courts. Since Rowe was married to Jackson when Michael Jr. and Paris were born, there's a presumption that she's the biological parent. That presumption can be rebutted by other evidence.

We know there are documents outlining the whole arrangement for the birth of all three kids. Nonetheless, it's still an open issue with the courts.

seeingvoices12 said:

I think he's the lead singer of Simply Red?

Timmy84 said:

Yes, that's one of the things I've loved and admired about his lifestyle offstage. A very honorable characteristic.

CalhounSq said:

No, what I mean is, that if it woulda been a white doctor, there would have been claims MJ was destroyed by the white men. All this race thinking.

It's true!

seeingvoices12 said:

Mick should ask his "dentist friend" why he chose to settle out of court and accept a huge payout from Michael If he truly believed that his son was molested,he should have taken this case to trial.

WaterInYourBath said:

Yeah, I think it's amazing that he believed that...not like others that are sleeping around like it's eating and breathing.

peacenlovealways said:

Very true. Although I don't believe there is anything wrong with sleeping around I still think its amazing when someone chooses to wait for 'the one' (without being conceited about it of course and trying to force it on everyone like alot of religious people do), especially when its a man who believes in that and sticks to it, it's even more honourable