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Thread started 06/27/09 11:51am

DirtyChris

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Question about Michael's "Rock With You"

so... okay
here I am listening to the
vinyl for Off The Wall


and... "Rock With You"
just went off...

is it me, or are the
handclaps missing from the vinyl? neutral
(on the chorus:
"I wanna roooock with yoooou *clap*")

like... I just played the mp3
and the handclaps are there

is the vinyl version actually
more "stripped" than
what I'm hearing on this mp3?

or is one of my speaker wires loose? lol

or am I just high confused lol
[Edited 6/27/09 11:53am]
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #1 posted 06/27/09 11:57am

BSK3478

i'm used to the album version too. the handclaps in the version they usually play on the radio bug me. mad
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Reply #2 posted 06/27/09 12:04pm

SoulAlive

You must have one of the early pressings of the 'Off The Wall' album.The song "Rock With You" was slightly altered on the later pressings.The handclap was added.Also,I think the song "Get On The Floor" was also altered a bit on these later pressings.
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Reply #3 posted 06/27/09 12:05pm

DirtyChris

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BSK3478 said:

i'm used to the album version too. the handclaps in the version they usually play on the radio bug me. mad

oh okay so I'm NOT trippin lol

I'm more used to the radio version
with the "handclaps" razz
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #4 posted 06/27/09 12:06pm

DirtyChris

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SoulAlive said:

You must have one of the early pressings of the 'Off The Wall' album.The song "Rock With You" was slightly altered on the later pressings.The handclap was added.Also,I think the song "Get On The Floor" was also altered a bit on these later pressings.

wooooo... YES!!! I got an original!!!

we shall never part love
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #5 posted 06/27/09 3:32pm

Shango

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Found some info on another forum :

"The differencees in the "Rock With You" mixes are that in the original LP mix there is a different rhythm guitar track, and there are no handclaps. The hi-hat isn't EQ'ed as hot, either. The easiest way to identify the original mix is that there are no handclaps anywhere on the track. Also, to confuse more, the remix was released edited on 45 and on radio promos.

There are too many differences between the mixes of "Get On The Floor" to get into here.

All the CBS Japanese-made CD pressing has is the original cover."



"The first vinyl LP, cassette, and 8-track(promo and commercial copies) press run of "Off The Wall" has the original mixes of "Rock With You" and Get On The Floor". Right after the 45 of "Rock With You" was released as a single in November of '79, the switch took place earlier than the spring of 1980. The album was mastered again with the new mixes of the above mentioned tracks and the albums probably hit the stores around the end of the year or January of '80. I know because I bought the album on vinyl around this time and it had the remixes, where as the cassette copy I bought when the album was released had the original mixes. The version with the original mixes has never turned up again. Though the original mix of "Get On The Floor" did turn up on the B-sides of "Off The Wall" and "She's Out Of My Life"...


Link : http://www.stevehoffman.t...13322.html
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Reply #6 posted 06/27/09 3:43pm

Harlepolis

Chris, do you have the remastered album?



Its the DIME. I love the demo versions of Don't Stop/Workin' Dady & Night music

Sony did well with his remasters, but I'm greedy,,,just a couple of songs don't cut it, child.

I wish they release a compilation of ALL unreleased music he did with Sony.
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Reply #7 posted 06/27/09 3:43pm

BSK3478

Shango said:

Found some info on another forum :

"The differencees in the "Rock With You" mixes are that in the original LP mix there is a different rhythm guitar track, and there are no handclaps. The hi-hat isn't EQ'ed as hot, either. The easiest way to identify the original mix is that there are no handclaps anywhere on the track. Also, to confuse more, the remix was released edited on 45 and on radio promos.

There are too many differences between the mixes of "Get On The Floor" to get into here.

All the CBS Japanese-made CD pressing has is the original cover."



"The first vinyl LP, cassette, and 8-track(promo and commercial copies) press run of "Off The Wall" has the original mixes of "Rock With You" and Get On The Floor". Right after the 45 of "Rock With You" was released as a single in November of '79, the switch took place earlier than the spring of 1980. The album was mastered again with the new mixes of the above mentioned tracks and the albums probably hit the stores around the end of the year or January of '80. I know because I bought the album on vinyl around this time and it had the remixes, where as the cassette copy I bought when the album was released had the original mixes. The version with the original mixes has never turned up again. Though the original mix of "Get On The Floor" did turn up on the B-sides of "Off The Wall" and "She's Out Of My Life"...


Link : http://www.stevehoffman.t...13322.html

cool. thanks for posting this...so yes dirtychris, sounds like you have one of the first pressings. biggrin
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Reply #8 posted 06/27/09 3:47pm

SoulAlive

I have a copy of Off The Wall on vinyl,but it is from the second pressing sad I wish I had a copy of the first pressing!
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Reply #9 posted 06/27/09 4:00pm

Shango

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BSK3478 said:


cool. thanks for posting this...so yes dirtychris, sounds like you have one of the first pressings. biggrin

thumbs up!



& i just added to my OTW-files the previously unreleased "Sunset Driver" in wonderful flac-quality :

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Reply #10 posted 06/27/09 4:11pm

errant

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BSK3478 said:

i'm used to the album version too. the handclaps in the version they usually play on the radio bug me. mad



i figured you to be a big fan of hand claps & finger snaps.... shrug

lol
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Reply #11 posted 06/27/09 4:17pm

BSK3478

errant said:

BSK3478 said:

i'm used to the album version too. the handclaps in the version they usually play on the radio bug me. mad



i figured you to be a big fan of hand claps & finger snaps.... shrug

lol

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Reply #12 posted 06/27/09 4:23pm

bboy87

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I think next week will be time for me to continue and finish the Off The Wall essay. It'll be my tribute to him
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #13 posted 06/27/09 4:31pm

Harlepolis

This is my FIRST time hearing this version...



It sounds alot like it was done by Stevie Wonder touched music
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Reply #14 posted 06/27/09 8:21pm

Timmy84

^^
Greg Phillinganes and MJ co-wrote that.

And yes you got the original copy. I had a tape of the album that didn't have the handclaps. lol
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Reply #15 posted 06/27/09 9:26pm

DirtyChris

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OMG eek eek eek

I'm never going to play it again
I'm going to have it framed cool

okay maybe I'll play it once more
to rip mp3s lol

wow this is too damn cool!!! razz
the whole time I thought my great-niece
had been diggin around behind my record crates
& pulled a wire the wrong way or something lol

thanx to everyone who added input

@Aisha - naw, I didn't buy the remaster
you know I'm a sucker for the real deal
when they add extras & such
it just kinda takes away from
the essence of the album itself
and what it was mean to be...
I'm a firm believer that
they left the extras off for a reason LOL

even when downloading albums
if I accidentally download a remaster
I usually delete everything that
was not on the original

I do pay attention to the outtakes & unreleased gems tho
"be who you are and say what you feel
because those who mind don't matter
and those who matter don't mind."
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Reply #16 posted 06/27/09 9:34pm

Timmy84

DirtyChris said:

OMG eek eek eek

I'm never going to play it again
I'm going to have it framed cool

okay maybe I'll play it once more
to rip mp3s lol

wow this is too damn cool!!! razz
the whole time I thought my great-niece
had been diggin around behind my record crates
& pulled a wire the wrong way or something lol

thanx to everyone who added input

@Aisha - naw, I didn't buy the remaster
you know I'm a sucker for the real deal
when they add extras & such
it just kinda takes away from
the essence of the album itself
and what it was mean to be...
I'm a firm believer that
they left the extras off for a reason LOL

even when downloading albums
if I accidentally download a remaster
I usually delete everything that
was not on the original

I do pay attention to the outtakes & unreleased gems tho


I almost never do that (delete things not part of the original) but I can't do that for deluxe copies. If you ever find the SE to Off the Wall (or even Thriller25), make sure you don't burn the "extra" tracks tho the demos to "Working Day & Night" and "Don't Stop..." on the Off the Wall one will be pleasant. That is if you do decide to d/l a remaster, lol.
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