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PrintableNumber23 said: Anyone who sails 300ft statues of themselves down the planet's major rivers then allows them to drift off to sea is someone I'd like to have known. Maybe one day a couple of them will pass each other on the Pacific. It's a fact as mad and surreal and soild and known and inevitable as that fact someone as spritelike, someone of almost unreal iconography and celebrity as Michael Jackson can actally die and their body rot to dust. At his peak, he looked like he was lit from within - i remember spasmodcally grooving across the living room when I was eight trying to do the moves in front of my family, reading the lyrics the Bad album, just acknowledging without cynicism or ego that Michael jackson was an otherwolrdly genus who did not move among the same dimentions as the rest of us. Someone born to shift he collective human subconcious up a notch of two. Reading through these posts, it seems that a lot of people projected their young, uncorrupted, innocent selves onto Mike and the lives they would like to have led through him if their comparibly average abilities condem,ned them to lives of conformity - or more their idealised reality of him. I donlt know what i'm saying. I've been drinking since I heard. I'd like to have thought I'd never have given a shit about someone I've never known, but I do. I really do.
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paisleypark4 said: TonyVanDam said: The moment Thriller sold for a world-record setting 40+ million copies (currently 50 million copies), Michael had been pushing himself too hard to break his own record ever since. He failed. But hot-damn-it, at least Michael had the balls to go for it with Bad!  Funny thing is that even when Invincible came out and went double platinum people still say it flopped just because it didnt go 40 X platinum or 8X Platinum in America  Which I thought was bullshit, lol. I mean for him to sell a million copies with the little promotion he got from it was amazing I thought. | |
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Number23 said: Anyone who sails 300ft statues of themselves down the planet's major rivers then allows them to drift off to sea is someone I'd like to have known. Maybe one day a couple of them will pass each other on the Pacific. It's a fact as mad and surreal and soild and known and inevitable as that fact someone as spritelike, someone of almost unreal iconography and celebrity as Michael Jackson can actally die and their body rot to dust. At his peak, he looked like he was lit from within - i remember spasmodcally grooving across the living room when I was eight trying to do the moves in front of my family, reading the lyrics the Bad album, just acknowledging without cynicism or ego that Michael jackson was an otherwolrdly genus who did not move among the same dimentions as the rest of us. Someone born to shift he collective human subconcious up a notch of two. Reading through these posts, it seems that a lot of people projected their young, uncorrupted, innocent selves onto Mike and the lives they would like to have led through him if their comparibly average abilities condem,ned them to lives of conformity - or more their idealised reality of him. I donlt know what i'm saying. I've been drinking since I heard. I'd like to have thought I'd never have given a shit about someone I've never known, but I do. I really do.
This is how I've always felt about him. He had this glow that just made people at least like him. He had a presence that I've never seen before except with him "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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LOS ANGELES, Calif. --
Michael Jackson may have led a very private life. But for those who were close to him, he was anything but guarded. One of those people who got to know the King of Pop over the years was Frank Dileo, Michael’s longtime manager and a member of Jackson’s inner circle, who was at the hospital when the singer died on Thursday, along with family, friends and Jackson’s children. “His three children were there. They were in a separate room while the doctors worked on Michael,” Dileo told the “Today” show’s Meredith Vieira on Friday. “I’m very sad for his children, his mother, his father, his brothers and sisters. It was a very rough day yesterday for everybody.” In fact, it was Dileo who had to tell Jackson’s three children — Prince Michael Jackson, 12; Paris Michael Katherine Jackson, 11; and Prince Michael Jackson II, 7 – that their father had died after doctors worked for over an hour to resuscitate the star. “We had to tell the children. I didn’t go in alone. I went in with a doctor and a social worker. The nanny was in there and Dr. Murray – Michael’s personal physician. It was, as you would think,” a visibly emotional Dileo continued. “I can’t even begin to tell you the emotion that flowed out of those children.” As someone very close to Jackson over the years, Dileo got to see a side of the pop star that few others did – as a father. “Michael was a very dedicated parent, a single parent, who took that responsibility very seriously. His whole life surrounded around those children and they around him,” Dileo added. So where are the children now following their father’s death? “They are with their grandmother. They are with Mrs. Jackson,” Dileo said, referring to Michael’s mother, Katherine. “Right now, I would think that’s where they would stay.” And while custody of the children has yet to be determined, Dileo said he also must focus on Jackson’s financial matters, which was something that the pop star worried about for his kids. “There’s so much speculation as to a will – there is a will. A team of lawyers are gathering today and we’ll sort through all the stuff for the children,” Dileo explained. “[Michael] talked about making sure that his finances were taken care of – to clean up this mess so his children would be protected, so that’s what I’m going to do… That’s what was important to Michael.” And while Jackson’s death at the age of 50 on Thursday came as a shock to fans worldwide, it was equally surprising to those who were closest to the King of Pop. In fact, Dileo said Jackson had been in good spirits in the days leading up to his death. “I was with Michael everyday going to rehearsals – Wednesday and Thursday he was the happiest,” the manager recalled. “On Wednesday, he put his arm around me at the end [of the day] and he said, ‘Frank, I’ve never been happier. We’re going to make this work… It’s our time again Frank. We’re going to do this!’” Besides being happy, Dileo also said Jackson seemed to be in top physical shape. “He seemed in great health. He was working out everyday,” he added. http://www.accesshollywoo...icle_19755 "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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bboy87 said: purplecam said: That was really beautiful Jay.   I'm crying again, dammit...
People are one day gonna understand why so many people love him and what he meant. The only time I've felt like this was when my parents divorced and the passing of my older cousin. He made me believe in me when I didn't believe in me. That's why I get so defensive about Michael. He gave people hope. I've seen people from different parts of the world with different opinions and personalities put it all aside to simply talk about how much they care about him. Very few music stars can do that, and when they can, that tells you about their spirit Cam, I don't drink and never have but tonight, me and my homies are gonna be getting tipsy with tears in our eyes because somehow, the world doesn't feel the same to me. I'm gonna miss that man, I tell you  Dude I understand completely. I'm missing him more than I thought I would. Earlier this afternoon, I finally broke down at my desk while I was talking about my MJ memories as a kid. It hurts and no matter what issues I had with the man, he was one of my favorites. He was the bridge that led me to Prince, so I am grateful to MJ just for being here and letting his talent shine for the world to see. And thank you Jay for sharing some MJ stuff with me in the past. You and Timmy both helped me look at MJ with a new set of eyes when I was in the midst of dogging him on the org. From the bottom of my heart, thank you. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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I hope a game of tug-o-war doesn't happen with Michael's children! Hopefully they will not be separated! If these mothers appear and fight for them it could get ugly. People have been know to clown when a death takes place. The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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 I'm sick and tired of the Prince fans being sick and tired of the Prince fans that are sick and tired! | |
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Why did his doctor NOT go 2 the hospital? | |
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Chic35 said: I hope a game of tug-o-war doesn't happen with Michael's children! Hopefully they will not be separated! If these mothers appear and fight for them it could get ugly. People have been know to clown when a death takes place.
I agree with you 100% If they have never really been in those children lives now why play drama queen now! It will make things worse... My reaction was shocked, denial, pissed off, crying, now deeply saddened! A stupid man’s report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand. | |
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paisleypark4 said: TonyVanDam said: The moment Thriller sold for a world-record setting 40+ million copies (currently 50 million copies), Michael had been pushing himself too hard to break his own record ever since. He failed. But hot-damn-it, at least Michael had the balls to go for it with Bad! Funny thing is that even when Invincible came out and went double platinum people still say it flopped just because it didnt go 40 X platinum or 8X Platinum in America Invincible sold 6+ million copies worldwide. It was more success outside of the USA. If this was about any other artist (especially in hip-hop/rap), it would be consider as great news. But if your Michael Jackson, it's looks down upon by critics as one of the biggest flops ever. Double standards!   | |
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TonyVanDam said: paisleypark4 said: Funny thing is that even when Invincible came out and went double platinum people still say it flopped just because it didnt go 40 X platinum or 8X Platinum in America Invincible sold 6+ million copies worldwide. It was more success outside of the USA. If this was about any other artist (especially in hip-hop/rap), it would be consider as great news. But if your Michael Jackson, it's looks down upon by critics as one of the biggest flops ever. Double standards! Not double standards.....DUMB standards. | |
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DevotedPuppy said: DesireeNevermind said: maybe you should clarify that the first time around and save yourself a post  Maybe if you read and comprehended it correctly, clarification wouldn't be necessary. both of you guys need to either hug it out or take it outside before i start filling a swimming pool with jell-o. | |
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Number23 said: Anyone who sails 300ft statues of themselves down the planet's major rivers then allows them to drift off to sea is someone I'd like to have known. Maybe one day a couple of them will pass each other on the Pacific. It's a fact as mad and surreal and soild and known and inevitable as that fact someone as spritelike, someone of almost unreal iconography and celebrity as Michael Jackson can actally die and their body rot to dust. At his peak, he looked like he was lit from within - i remember spasmodcally grooving across the living room when I was eight trying to do the moves in front of my family, reading the lyrics the Bad album, just acknowledging without cynicism or ego that Michael jackson was an otherwolrdly genus who did not move among the same dimentions as the rest of us. Someone born to shift he collective human subconcious up a notch of two. Reading through these posts, it seems that a lot of people projected their young, uncorrupted, innocent selves onto Mike and the lives they would like to have led through him if their comparibly average abilities condem,ned them to lives of conformity - or more their idealised reality of him. I donlt know what i'm saying. I've been drinking since I heard. I'd like to have thought I'd never have given a shit about someone I've never known, but I do. I really do.
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Graycap23 said: Why did his doctor NOT go 2 the hospital?
That is a good damn question! On that 911 call he should have been talking to them. The doctor was present when Michael collapsed! 
If it was foul play his is done! Something is not adding up why is he MIA, was this a suicide or what? The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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Anxiety said: DevotedPuppy said: Maybe if you read and comprehended it correctly, clarification wouldn't be necessary. both of you guys need to either hug it out or take it outside before i start filling a swimming pool with jell-o. what flavor jello? just curious you understand. i would never do such a thing as it is beneath me and quite sticky.  | |
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Rest in peace my sweet Michael...i will love you & miss you forever. | |
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bboy87 said: I'm gonna say this and then I'll be done
**** Being almost 22 years old, I didn't get to experience Michael during his "peak" years but I did get to experience everything from 1990 onwards In my opinion, there was NO brighter star than Michael Joesph Jackson to me.I love James Brown, I love Prince, and I love Stevie, but Michael, from the day I heard Human Nature at the age of 3, has been part of my life and my heart. I remember watching the videos when they premiered, listening to the albums non stop, rejoicing when the 2005 verdict came. There will never be another Michael Jackson I can't really listen to the music and watch the videos that have been such an important part of my life, the singer...the dancer....the writer...the person I've become. I've made friends for the simple fact we were fans. That was a beautiful thing about Michael. He WANTED people to come together and enjoy themselves through his work, he wanted to bring people of different races, creeds, and backgrounds together. That kind of quality is surely missing in this day of "artists" Today, I can't listen to his work without feeling such a huge feeling of sorrow and emptiness, yet relief Relief because he doesn't have to deal with the crap that the world threw at him anymore and the vultures who were constantly trying to get him. But sorrow and emptiness because the world does feel a bit more empty, a bit less happy, a bit less together....a bit less musical without Michael Jackson Today is really the first day of my life without Michael Jackson and although the tears have stopped (temporarily....), the feeling of loss yet respect and rememberance lingers I lost my favorite artist. I lost one of my biggest inspirations in my life, I lost my hero I lost my dear friend Michael Jackson 1958-2009 .....now excuse why I go cry again...
Jay
You always had is back sweetie.....I remeber having some of my most interesting MJ arguements with you. As someone who was born and raised on MJ, I'm having a hard time dealing with this shit. I was actually walking around in a police uniform yesterday crying. It was a trip because most people hadn't heard the news and they would say a greeting and I would just burst into tears. Now people are walking around with knowing glances. MJ, even though I din't understand/agree with what you did to what was once a beautiful face, I never stopped loving you and I never believed the bullshit stories that were said about you. May you finally rest in peace. **************************************************
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Chic35 said: Graycap23 said: Why did his doctor NOT go 2 the hospital?
That is a good damn question! On that 911 call he should have been talking to them. The doctor was present when Michael collapsed!
If it was foul play his is done! Something is not adding up why is he MIA, was this a suicide or what? Having listened to the 911 call I want to know why they were performing CPR on the bed? Any one with training especially a doctor would know that you perform CPR on the floor. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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i can't listen to the 911 call, i refuse. i think it will have me bawling. | |
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DesireeNevermind said: i can't listen to the 911 call, i refuse. i think it will have me bawling.
Its actually pretty professional MJ isn't even identified as the person not responding. The Most Important Thing In Life Is Sincerity....Once You Can Fake That, You Can Fake Anything. |
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DesireeNevermind said: i can't listen to the 911 call, i refuse. i think it will have me bawling.
I turned from it and watched Young and The Restless, that made me feel a bit better "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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oh lawd. it should have been rush pigbagh that died not Mike. 
http://www.abcnews.go.com...599&page=1 | |
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see you later buddy... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." |
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lazycrockett said: Chic35 said: That is a good damn question! On that 911 call he should have been talking to them. The doctor was present when Michael collapsed!
If it was foul play his is done! Something is not adding up why is he MIA, was this a suicide or what? Having listened to the 911 call I want to know why they were performing CPR on the bed? Any one with training especially a doctor would know that you perform CPR on the floor. I thought the same thing. I was guessing the doctor was performing CPR while the caller was on with 911 but wouldn't the doctor know to perform CPR on the floor? That's basic info. Was he determined that the paramedics try to resuscitate him even en route to the hospital because he couldn't accept his death even tho he wasn't breathing back at the house? Why did MJ have a cardiologist living with him? Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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DesireeNevermind said: Anxiety said: both of you guys need to either hug it out or take it outside before i start filling a swimming pool with jell-o. what flavor jello? just curious you understand. i would never do such a thing as it is beneath me and quite sticky. LIME jello. with coconut shavings. so knock it off. | |
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bboy87 said:
see you later buddy... OMG. Very cute. I feel Michael all around. Oddly, I feel more connected to him now then I have in the last several years. His aura is so amazing. Now he is as bright and as free as any star in the sky. Been gone for a minute, now I'm back with the jump off | |
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Anxiety said: DesireeNevermind said: what flavor jello? just curious you understand. i would never do such a thing as it is beneath me and quite sticky. LIME jello. with coconut shavings. so knock it off. 
you are so wrong for that. but you made me laugh which is good in this 2nd sad day. | |
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This is a 1988 video of myself. This is for you Michael. This is the impact you had and have on me when I was very little as far back as I can remember. Much love.
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JackieBlue said: bboy87 said:
see you later buddy... OMG. Very cute. I feel Michael all around. Oddly, I feel more connected to him now then I have in the last several years. His aura is so amazing. Now he is as bright and as free as any star in the sky. I feel the same way. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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He was so sexy here. That vid with Naomi was hotter than hot.
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