2elijah said: Even the youngest of fans are feeling the loss:
Beautiful message I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh | |
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vainandy said: TonyVanDam said:
Do I now have permission to say "Michael is BIGGER than Elvis AND The Beatles"?!? Was there ever any doubt? I mean, how many black folks have Elvis and Beatles records in their collection? Some do but not a hell of a whole lot of them. And not to mention all the generations that got all into Michael Jackson that weren't even born yet when he was huge. Hell Michael Jackson became as well loved to those children as much as Barney and "Sesame Street". I've never seen anything like it in my life. Michael Jackson's music was bought widespread by whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, and any other race out there as well as by children, teenagers, young adults, middle aged adults, and even a few senior citizens. Elvis and The Beatles were never that huge all the way across the board like Michael was. . . . [Edited 6/27/09 11:55am] [Edited 6/27/09 22:16pm] | |
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http://brianmay.com/whatsnew.html
Brian May of Queen posted about MJ....a nice read...and very beautiful about what he said about Michael Jackson and Freddie Mercury [Edited 6/27/09 22:20pm] unlucky7 reincarnated | |
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Arnotts said: heartbeatocean said: Early 80's, or late 70's [Edited 6/27/09 20:00pm] Sorry, what do you mean? You said: People who became fans in the late 80's, 90's and 00's I think are more inclined to feel the more personal connection. I don't know where exactly you're coming from or why you think people in those eras feel a more personal connection. I would think those of us who were born shortly after Michael, experienced Thriller and Billie Jean as teenagers, and who's entire lives have been saturated with Michael, who grew up with him and consider ourselves his peers -- and because of the sheer length of time we've been influenced by him -- would feel as much a personal connection as anyone. | |
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heartbeatocean said: Arnotts said: Sorry, what do you mean? You said: People who became fans in the late 80's, 90's and 00's I think are more inclined to feel the more personal connection. I don't know where exactly you're coming from or why you think people in those eras feel a more personal connection. I would think those of us who were born shortly after Michael, experienced Thriller and Billie Jean as teenagers, and who's entire lives have been saturated with Michael, who grew up with him and consider ourselves his peers -- and because of the sheer length of time we've been influenced by him -- would feel as much a personal connection as anyone. Fans of those eras are a mixed bag though. Some fell out with him more than those who grew up with MJ in the later periods of his life. I've met only a few from the late-1960s and 1970s that stayed loyal after "Thriller". | |
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lowkey said: vainandy said: Was there ever any doubt? I mean, how many black folks have Elvis and Beatles records in their collection? Some do but not a hell of a whole lot of them. And not to mention all the generations that got all into Michael Jackson that weren't even born yet when he was huge. Hell Michael Jackson became as well loved to those children as much as Barney and "Sesame Street". I've never seen anything like it in my life. Michael Jackson's music was bought widespread by whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, and any other race out there as well as by children, teenagers, young adults, middle aged adults, and even a few senior citizens. Elvis and The Beatles were never that huge all the way across the board like Michael was. . . . [Edited 6/27/09 11:55am] [Edited 6/27/09 22:16pm] Those kids might have been SCARED, hence the look! | |
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how come the lawyers are not in touch with the jackson family. hopefully this will go smoothly. Randy should not be in charge of the estate. | |
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Timmy84 said: heartbeatocean said: You said: People who became fans in the late 80's, 90's and 00's I think are more inclined to feel the more personal connection. I don't know where exactly you're coming from or why you think people in those eras feel a more personal connection. I would think those of us who were born shortly after Michael, experienced Thriller and Billie Jean as teenagers, and who's entire lives have been saturated with Michael, who grew up with him and consider ourselves his peers -- and because of the sheer length of time we've been influenced by him -- would feel as much a personal connection as anyone. Fans of those eras are a mixed bag though. Some fell out with him more than those who grew up with MJ in the later periods of his life. I've met only a few from the late-1960s and 1970s that stayed loyal after "Thriller". Been a loyal fan since I bought ABC for .49 at a dime store. Never wavered... two wave edit [Edited 6/27/09 23:05pm] "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said: Timmy84 said: Fans of those eras are a mixed bag though. Some fell out with him more than those who grew up with MJ in the later periods of his life. I've met only a few from the late-1960s and 1970s that stayed loyal after "Thriller". Been a loyal fan since I bought ABC for .49 at a dime store. Never wavered... two wave edit [Edited 6/27/09 23:05pm] Thanx for that, lol. | |
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Timmy84 said: heartbeatocean said: You said: People who became fans in the late 80's, 90's and 00's I think are more inclined to feel the more personal connection. I don't know where exactly you're coming from or why you think people in those eras feel a more personal connection. I would think those of us who were born shortly after Michael, experienced Thriller and Billie Jean as teenagers, and who's entire lives have been saturated with Michael, who grew up with him and consider ourselves his peers -- and because of the sheer length of time we've been influenced by him -- would feel as much a personal connection as anyone. Fans of those eras are a mixed bag though. Some fell out with him more than those who grew up with MJ in the later periods of his life. I've met only a few from the late-1960s and 1970s that stayed loyal after "Thriller". All of this talk about staying loyal and proving one's alliance to MJ is fruitless. This goes way deeper than being a fan, how many times you played his albums in the last ten years, if you defended him during his trial, etc. This is about being a product of a culture that MJ dominated and being formed by his influence. It's not about conscious choice or action. Whether we hung around MJ during his troubled years or not (probably not) does nothing to dismiss the effect of growing up with him at his PEAK, which was far more mindblowing of a phenomena than his post-1990 work. IMO We were firsthand witnesses of that and it became a part of us. | |
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heartbeatocean said: Timmy84 said: Fans of those eras are a mixed bag though. Some fell out with him more than those who grew up with MJ in the later periods of his life. I've met only a few from the late-1960s and 1970s that stayed loyal after "Thriller". All of this talk about staying loyal and proving one's alliance to MJ is fruitless. This goes way deeper than being a fan, how many times you played his albums in the last ten years, if you defended him during his trial, etc. This is about being a product of a culture that MJ dominated and being formed by his influence. It's not about conscious choice or action. Whether we hung around MJ during his troubled years or not (probably not) does nothing to dismiss the effect of growing up with him at his PEAK, which was far more mindblowing of a phenomena than his post-1990 work. IMO We were firsthand witnesses of that and it became a part of us. I guess... I'm just saying tho... | |
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the poor children. | |
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A horrible experience written by one of the mods at MJJC.....:
I think I'm suffering now not because I have lost my inspiration and idol but because I am loosing my family and I don't really know how to cope or deal with it. The first was hard enough but being "MJJC Momma" I was hoping to be strong for everyone and see this through. But yesterday was overwhelming for me and it's tearing me apart. Yesterday morning I logged onto MSN and got hit up by a address that wasn't in my list and I didn't know them. Usually I wouldn't have bothered but it said "Momma Shannon I want to thank you for all you have done on MJNO and MJJC". So I answered her and we talked for a very short time. She was beyond my help and giving her last goodbyes to those she felt deserved them. I talked to her about Michael's death, his message and how he would want his fans to carry that message into the future. I had hoped to convince her to log onto MJJC and talk here to people who would know what to say and how to make her understand that together we can get through Michael's death. But she simply said, "Thank you Momma I do love you." and then she stopped replying to me. I kept her window open all day hoping for something...anything. I wasn't really sure what to think or say to make her talk to me again. So I walked away from the computer and dealt with the insanity of trying to get my two newest family members (who through God's irony I got custody of on June 25th) to get along with my other kids. That took a long while. When I came back into my computer room I saw the lil window at the bottom was orange. I felt relief and happy that she was talking to me again. But then I clicked on the window and there was a single message there. "I hate Michael Jackson he killed my sister" I'm left with no answers. I don't even know her name. It's killing me that everyone sees me as "Momma" and I'm supposed to be "Momma". She asked me to fix it over and over she asked me to fix her and I couldn't. I couldn't even get her to log on to MJJC and talk to someone who might be able to help. I couldn't get her to talk to her family or at least someone who was where she was. I couldn't get her to understand Michael would not want her to die. I don't even know how to end this. All my life I've been the strength and the one everyone could count on. I'm just at a loss and for the first time I feel totally useless to the people I love and who need me. I am so sorry but I can't fix this and I don't know what I'm supposed to say. [Edited 6/27/09 23:33pm] | |
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heartbeatocean said: Timmy84 said: Fans of those eras are a mixed bag though. Some fell out with him more than those who grew up with MJ in the later periods of his life. I've met only a few from the late-1960s and 1970s that stayed loyal after "Thriller". All of this talk about staying loyal and proving one's alliance to MJ is fruitless. This goes way deeper than being a fan, how many times you played his albums in the last ten years, if you defended him during his trial, etc. This is about being a product of a culture that MJ dominated and being formed by his influence. It's not about conscious choice or action. Whether we hung around MJ during his troubled years or not (probably not) does nothing to dismiss the effect of growing up with him at his PEAK, which was far more mindblowing of a phenomena than his post-1990 work. IMO We were firsthand witnesses of that and it became a part of us. I haver read all of your posts here and in P&R. I totally understand everything you have said. CNN said, "Today we found out how many people it takes to take down Internet, one....if you are Michael Jackson." misquote edit [Edited 6/27/09 23:43pm] "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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noimageatall said: heartbeatocean said: All of this talk about staying loyal and proving one's alliance to MJ is fruitless. This goes way deeper than being a fan, how many times you played his albums in the last ten years, if you defended him during his trial, etc. This is about being a product of a culture that MJ dominated and being formed by his influence. It's not about conscious choice or action. Whether we hung around MJ during his troubled years or not (probably not) does nothing to dismiss the effect of growing up with him at his PEAK, which was far more mindblowing of a phenomena than his post-1990 work. IMO We were firsthand witnesses of that and it became a part of us. I haver read all of your posts here and in P&R. I totally understand everything you have said. CNN said, "Today we found out how many people does it take to take down Internet, one....if you are Michael Jackson." It was crazy, there were titles to pages that said "Jackson death nearly kills internet" or "Google attacked by Jackson death", it was ridiculous. | |
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PurpleMedley122 said: A horrible experience written by one of the mods at MJJC.....:
I think I'm suffering now not because I have lost my inspiration and idol but because I am loosing my family and I don't really know how to cope or deal with it. The first was hard enough but being "MJJC Momma" I was hoping to be strong for everyone and see this through. But yesterday was overwhelming for me and it's tearing me apart. Yesterday morning I logged onto MSN and got hit up by a address that wasn't in my list and I didn't know them. Usually I wouldn't have bothered but it said "Momma Shannon I want to thank you for all you have done on MJNO and MJJC". So I answered her and we talked for a very short time. She was beyond my help and giving her last goodbyes to those she felt deserved them. I talked to her about Michael's death, his message and how he would want his fans to carry that message into the future. I had hoped to convince her to log onto MJJC and talk here to people who would know what to say and how to make her understand that together we can get through Michael's death. But she simply said, "Thank you Momma I do love you." and then she stopped replying to me. I kept her window open all day hoping for something...anything. I wasn't really sure what to think or say to make her talk to me again. So I walked away from the computer and dealt with the insanity of trying to get my two newest family members (who through God's irony I got custody of on June 25th) to get along with my other kids. That took a long while. When I came back into my computer room I saw the lil window at the bottom was orange. I felt relief and happy that she was talking to me again. But then I clicked on the window and there was a single message there. "I hate Michael Jackson he killed my sister" I'm left with no answers. I don't even know her name. It's killing me that everyone sees me as "Momma" and I'm supposed to be "Momma". She asked me to fix it over and over she asked me to fix her and I couldn't. I couldn't even get her to log on to MJJC and talk to someone who might be able to help. I couldn't get her to talk to her family or at least someone who was where she was. I couldn't get her to understand Michael would not want her to die. I don't even know how to end this. All my life I've been the strength and the one everyone could count on. I'm just at a loss and for the first time I feel totally useless to the people I love and who need me. I am so sorry but I can't fix this and I don't know what I'm supposed to say. [Edited 6/27/09 23:33pm] "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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Oh I guess I'm being made to discuss this here or somthing. Here was my original post:
http://prince.org/msg/8/312417 Was this Michael's cry for help? Remember MORPHINE song from '97 & Demerol..Predicting his future http://www.youtube.com/wa...bUxSJEhWUo I don't know if it had been mentioned as I don't stalk the boards or whatever but this came into my mind a few hours after his passing. If this was already mentioned can someone direct me to the post. He's screaming about Morphine, Demerol, taking twice as much..... Relax....this won't hurt you Before I put it in, close your eyes and count to 10 Don't cry I won't convert you There's no need to dismay Close your eyes and drift away Demerol Demerol Oh God He's taking Demerol He's tried hard to convince her To be over what he had Today he wants it twice it bad Don't cry I won't resent you Yesterday you had his trust Today he's taking twice as much Then repeats the Demerol part Oh Damn!!! This kills my soul just listening to it, imagine what pain MJ must have been in, emotionally, spiritually, mentally, physically . Was this his secret cry for help? The eerie part, to me anyway, while this Demerol part is playing the background music sounds that of a breathing machine, heart monitor....anyone else hear this also? This sound always stood out in my mind when I first heard it. I was like WHAT? WHY? What did you think about this song then and now? Was he predicting his future or death? "Today he's taking twice as much....Close your eyes and drift away" I'm sorry MJ, I am heart broken I so miss him! He is and was the the King Of Everything! The complete lyrics: He got flat baby Kick in the back baby A heart attack baby I need your body A hot kiss honey He's just a bitch baby You make me sick baby So unrelying I'm such a swine baby All down the line daddy I hate your kind baby So unreliable A hot buzz baby He's one of us baby Another drug baby You so desire Trust in me Trust in me Put all your trust in me You're doin' morphine Hoo! They got place baby Kicked in the face baby You hate your race baby You're just a liar Your every lick baby Your dog's a bitch baby You make me sick baby You soul survivor She never cut from me She never cut baby I had to work baby You just a rival Always to please daddy Right up and leave daddy You're thorwing shame daddy So undesirable Trust in me Just in me Put all your trsut in me You're doin' morphine Go'on babe Relax This won't hurt you Before I put it in Close your eyes and count to ten Don't cry I won't convert you There's no need to dismay Close your eyes and drift away Demerol Demerol Oh God he's taking demerol Demerol Demerol Oh God he's taking demerol He's tried Hard to convince her To be over what he had Today he wants it twice as bad Don't cry I won't resent you Yesterday you had his trust Today he's taking twice as much Demerol Demerol Oh God he's taking demerol Hee-hee-hee Demerol Demerol Oh my Oh God it's Demerol Hee Oooh Oh! He got shit baby Your dog's a bitch baby You make me sick baby You are a liar Is truth a game daddy To win the fame baby It's all the same baby You're so reliable Trust in me Trust in me Put all your trust in me She's doin' morphine Hoo! You just sit around just talkin' nothing You're takin' morphine Hoo! Go'on baby You just sit around just talking about it You're takin' morphine Hoo-hoo! Just sit around just talking nothing about it You're takin' morphine You just sit around just talking about it You're taking morphine You just sit around just talkin' nothin' And takin' morphine Hoo-hoo I'm going down baby You're talkin' Morphine Go'on baby! Hoo! Hoo! Morphine! Do it! Hoo! He's takin' morphine Morphine! Morphine! "Morphine" Featuring Brad Buxer, Bill Bottrell, & Jon Mooney. Written and Composed by Michael Jackson. I wanna b ur fantasy and maybe u could be mine! | |
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noimageatall said: PurpleMedley122 said: A horrible experience written by one of the mods at MJJC.....:
I think I'm suffering now not because I have lost my inspiration and idol but because I am loosing my family and I don't really know how to cope or deal with it. The first was hard enough but being "MJJC Momma" I was hoping to be strong for everyone and see this through. But yesterday was overwhelming for me and it's tearing me apart. Yesterday morning I logged onto MSN and got hit up by a address that wasn't in my list and I didn't know them. Usually I wouldn't have bothered but it said "Momma Shannon I want to thank you for all you have done on MJNO and MJJC". So I answered her and we talked for a very short time. She was beyond my help and giving her last goodbyes to those she felt deserved them. I talked to her about Michael's death, his message and how he would want his fans to carry that message into the future. I had hoped to convince her to log onto MJJC and talk here to people who would know what to say and how to make her understand that together we can get through Michael's death. But she simply said, "Thank you Momma I do love you." and then she stopped replying to me. I kept her window open all day hoping for something...anything. I wasn't really sure what to think or say to make her talk to me again. So I walked away from the computer and dealt with the insanity of trying to get my two newest family members (who through God's irony I got custody of on June 25th) to get along with my other kids. That took a long while. When I came back into my computer room I saw the lil window at the bottom was orange. I felt relief and happy that she was talking to me again. But then I clicked on the window and there was a single message there. "I hate Michael Jackson he killed my sister" I'm left with no answers. I don't even know her name. It's killing me that everyone sees me as "Momma" and I'm supposed to be "Momma". She asked me to fix it over and over she asked me to fix her and I couldn't. I couldn't even get her to log on to MJJC and talk to someone who might be able to help. I couldn't get her to talk to her family or at least someone who was where she was. I couldn't get her to understand Michael would not want her to die. I don't even know how to end this. All my life I've been the strength and the one everyone could count on. I'm just at a loss and for the first time I feel totally useless to the people I love and who need me. I am so sorry but I can't fix this and I don't know what I'm supposed to say. [Edited 6/27/09 23:33pm] Shannon done lost her knockers. Also it looked like the girl who e-mailed her killed herself. [Edited 6/28/09 0:06am] | |
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PurpleMedley122 said: A horrible experience written by one of the mods at MJJC.....:
I think I'm suffering now not because I have lost my inspiration and idol but because I am loosing my family and I don't really know how to cope or deal with it. The first was hard enough but being "MJJC Momma" I was hoping to be strong for everyone and see this through. But yesterday was overwhelming for me and it's tearing me apart. Yesterday morning I logged onto MSN and got hit up by a address that wasn't in my list and I didn't know them. Usually I wouldn't have bothered but it said "Momma Shannon I want to thank you for all you have done on MJNO and MJJC". So I answered her and we talked for a very short time. She was beyond my help and giving her last goodbyes to those she felt deserved them. I talked to her about Michael's death, his message and how he would want his fans to carry that message into the future. I had hoped to convince her to log onto MJJC and talk here to people who would know what to say and how to make her understand that together we can get through Michael's death. But she simply said, "Thank you Momma I do love you." and then she stopped replying to me. I kept her window open all day hoping for something...anything. I wasn't really sure what to think or say to make her talk to me again. So I walked away from the computer and dealt with the insanity of trying to get my two newest family members (who through God's irony I got custody of on June 25th) to get along with my other kids. That took a long while. When I came back into my computer room I saw the lil window at the bottom was orange. I felt relief and happy that she was talking to me again. But then I clicked on the window and there was a single message there. "I hate Michael Jackson he killed my sister" I'm left with no answers. I don't even know her name. It's killing me that everyone sees me as "Momma" and I'm supposed to be "Momma". She asked me to fix it over and over she asked me to fix her and I couldn't. I couldn't even get her to log on to MJJC and talk to someone who might be able to help. I couldn't get her to talk to her family or at least someone who was where she was. I couldn't get her to understand Michael would not want her to die. I don't even know how to end this. All my life I've been the strength and the one everyone could count on. I'm just at a loss and for the first time I feel totally useless to the people I love and who need me. I am so sorry but I can't fix this and I don't know what I'm supposed to say. [Edited 6/27/09 23:33pm] Another suicide?!? Damn. | |
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Now she crying. She was gonna sue him, wasn't she? | |
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Timmy84 said: noimageatall said: Shannon done lost her knockers. Also it looked like the girl who e-mailed her killed herself. [Edited 6/28/09 0:06am] WTF is going on????? I mean, I loved Michael and his artistry and I feel as if I've lost a brother, but damn....this is going too damned far. And this is probably just the beginning... "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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Timmy84 said: Now she crying. She was gonna sue him, wasn't she?
It was reported at the end of that clip. | |
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Timmy84 said: Now she crying. She was gonna sue him, wasn't she? lol, Yes, she was. And um, what is up with her skin color?
See, I told my mom about that "Demerol" song and she said I was making it up. She didn't believe he wrote a song with lyrics like that. I wouldn't have believed it if they hadn't played a snippet on the radio. Some of his later work was really sad...wow. As a child, I always fantasized about him and Diana Ross. To this day I wonder about those two. It's easy to forget that they were once close and people used to make jokes about them looking alike at one point in his career. [Edited 6/28/09 0:38am] "Be glad for what you had baby, what you've got..." | |
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bettybop said: Timmy84 said: Now she crying. She was gonna sue him, wasn't she? lol, Yes, she was. And um, what is up with her skin color?
See, I told my mom about that "Demerol" song and she said I was making it up. She didn't believe he wrote a song with lyrics like that. I wouldn't have believed it if they hadn't played a snippet on the radio. Some of his later work was really sad...wow. As a child, I always fantasized about him and Diana Ross. To this day I wonder about those two. It's easy to forget that they were once close and people used to make jokes about them looking alike at one point in his career. [Edited 6/28/09 0:38am] I wondered about her color too. She's almost as light as Michael was. "Let love be your perfect weapon..." ~~Andy Biersack | |
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steelyd said: serpan99 said: Yup...and the spookiest thing is that there's a song about the exact thing that happened 2 him Lyrics http://www.allmichaeljack...phine.html ... Trust in me Just in me Put all your trust in me You're doin' morphine Go'on babe Relax This won't hurt you Before I put it in Close your eyes and count to ten Don't cry I won't convert you There's no need to dismay Close your eyes and drift away Demerol Demerol Oh God he's taking Demerol Demerol Demerol Oh God he's taking Demerol He's tried Hard to convince her To be over what he had Today he wants it twice as bad Don't cry I won't resent you Yesterday you had his trust Today he's taking twice as much Demerol Demerol Oh God he's taking Demerol Hee-hee-hee Demerol Demerol Oh my Oh God it's Demerol [Edited 6/26/09 22:46pm] Holy shit, I thought this was a fake song until I went to the link. I never listen to the Blood on the Dance floor album...except for title song. Man that's deep and real sad. So Lisa Marie was right about him predicting his death I have 2 admit that I had not heard the song b4...but 2 hear him sing about Demerol is just...WOW | |
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i am not handling this well. | |
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It's truly sad to see the toll of his passing
Today, at the age of 21, I took a drank for the first time. Vodka is fucking disgusting! I said it before, only losing someone I cared about would be the ONLY reason I would drink some alcohol.... Well, Mike...I was right, huh! RIP my friend.... "We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world." | |
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bboy87 said: It's truly sad to see the toll of his passing
Today, at the age of 21, I took a drank for the first time. Vodka is fucking disgusting! I said it before, only losing someone I cared about would be the ONLY reason I would drink some alcohol.... Well, Mike...I was right, huh! RIP my friend.... Crown Royal and Dr.Pepper is a better drink than Vodka. | |
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I can’t be sad anymore. I’m still hurting, but I can’t find it in me to be sad anymore (if that makes any sense). The way I figure, that man is in a better place, away from all of the drama and confusion that plagued him here. I’m actually happy for him. At first, I thought we’d been robbed, but now I feel like he went exactly when he was supposed to go, having served his purpose, and I don’t have too many qualms about that (hell, I can’t do too much about it, anyway).
Today was a good day. My family and I were listening to his songs and watching his music videos for the majority of the day. I have to admit, I kinda got teary eyed as “She’s Out of My Life” played, cause let’s face it: it really DOES cut like a knife, but then I saw my one year old niece jammin’ to “It’s The Falling In Love” and realized that he truly will live on through future generations. I felt like I was discovering him all over again. We were watching his videos and commenting like the Peanut Gallery, laughing (mainly @ “Bad”, lol) and just appreciating the man’s greatness. If you think about it, when people say they feel like they lost a family member, it rings true. The man got us through the good times and the bad, he made us laugh; he made us cry; he made us want to slap the shit out of him at times (but we still loved him), but most of all, he was always there. Damn it, I had fun today! I think I’m officially entering the celebration phase, lol. That’s why I think I’ll stay away from the MJ boards for a while. They’ll be grieving over there for quite some time (understandably so), but it’s a little overwhelming for someone who’s been spending the past couple of days dancing like a maniac to his music and having a good time (I’m sure he would’ve wanted that). I’m just trying to remember him as the man who brought a lot of joy to my life! [Edited 6/28/09 0:54am] Honey, stop talking and just create the music. | |
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