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Reply #450 posted 06/27/09 9:37am

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bboy87 said:

Beyonce pays tribute


She should do this in the studio with a live band. This would be a great track for an MJ tribute album.
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Reply #451 posted 06/27/09 9:37am

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While I admire someone who isn't afraid and stands up for their opinion, I admire someone even more who knows the appropriate time to speak it. I, myself, have talked about his antics in the last decade or so but I was a fan of his music long before he began those antics and those antics don't change all that old great music that I grew up with.

I'm not even going to bring up or even debate any of his antics because this isn't the appropriate time to do so. When I have, in the past, it was appropriate because he was still living. And yes, it will be appropriate to discuss and debate these antics in the future. Why is this time inappropriate? Because the man just died and isn't even in the ground yet. I don't see myself as being a hypocrit and I'll tell you why. To bring up and argue Michael Jackson's antics during this time isn't hurting Michael Jackson (not that I would want to), it's hurting his fans on this board. There are a lot of hardcore Michael Jackson fans on this board and a lot of them love and discuss a lot of other great artists on this board, not just Michael Jackson. A lot of them seem to be nice and wonderful people and I consider a lot of them as online friends. Why would I want to hurt them especially when they just lost their favorite entertainer that means so much to them? Hell, even I have lost a man that made some great music that I grew up with. But nevermind me, why would you want to hurt them? Does every one of your friends or family members agree with and have the same exact tastes and views that you have? I'm sure they don't but you still like them don't you and wouldn't want to hurt them.

What you are doing right now is not simply voicing your opinion because there will definately be an appropriate time and place for that in the future. What you are doing right now is kicking people while they are down and that's not a strong person at all, it's an incredibly weak one.

Well said. nod Now is pretty much the universally accepted worst time to speak so poorly of the recently deceased, no matter the validity or conviction of the argument.
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Reply #452 posted 06/27/09 9:40am

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errant said:

Countthedays said:

Prince is probably in shock like us!



I sincerely hope he's taking stock of his own life, health, and those who surround him. He's never really lived the same kind of lifestyle MJ has, but I hope they're ALL taking a second look at what they're doing and how they're living and who's surrounding them.

I think P took his spiritual life and personal life more seriously around 97 or so. He seems to know how to take care of himself. Besides, we don't hear that many rumors about him like we did MJ.
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Reply #453 posted 06/27/09 9:43am

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daPrettyman said:


From where I stand, his life didn't seem that sad. Sure, he had problems and drama like most of us, but his was amplified more because of the media.


I think when a person states things like "the reason why I always keep sunglasses in the public, because I am crying all the time" he cannot necessarily be the happiest person in the world.

History (disc 2) did not sound like one big happy record either, and that was his by far most personal work. Even to the level that many could not relate to it all. Let's not even speak of the days when he attended those court sessions on a daily basis - unfortunately so many of the pictures used in the current pieces in the press and on the internet have chosen to use some of those pictures of him when he looked the weakest.

I get that, too, but what I'm trying to say is that his life wasn't all bad. I'm sure that MJ had a wonderful and full life. He got opportunities that most of us only dream about. He was blessed with enormous talent and tried to help people in many different ways. I'm sure his personal and legal problems were only a minor part of his life. Not to mention, he seemed to have a hard time picking a decent staff that weren't trying to leach off of him.
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Reply #454 posted 06/27/09 9:49am

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Now Jesse Jackson is sticking his nose into the mj death. Saw him in a photo with Joe Jackson. I may have also seen Londell Macmillon.
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Reply #455 posted 06/27/09 10:10am

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daPrettyman said:


I get that, too, but what I'm trying to say is that his life wasn't all bad. I'm sure that MJ had a wonderful and full life. He got opportunities that most of us only dream about. He was blessed with enormous talent and tried to help people in many different ways. I'm sure his personal and legal problems were only a minor part of his life. Not to mention, he seemed to have a hard time picking a decent staff that weren't trying to leach off of him.


I agree fully. But he was just inclined to swing back to his depressive ways anyway, and he was always too demanding of himself, which was probably one of the reasons that lead to him more or less halting his musical career during this decade, because after Thriller everything had to be always the biggest and most expensive thing ever done on the specific field. Even when you read all those old stories of him performing with his brothers, he often ended up just crying in the back room afterwards or something like that.

I don't think he was ever fully able to pick himself up after the allegations in 1993 - what most people would say though is that he was happy to be with his children. Even if he was indeed heterosexual like he always insisted - and we now have Lisa Marie's new account on it too - I'd say myself that he had still serious trouble letting anyone other than those "mother" characters like Elizabeth Taylor close to him. Also, during his prime he used to say how much he loved performing and how it made everything else worthwhile ("I love being onstage, I'd sleep onstage if I could", but it became clear that he wasn't so much into it anymore

But anyway, perhaps an extended discussion and speculation on that is best reserved for later on. I just want to post this one thing now though:



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Reply #456 posted 06/27/09 10:11am

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MJ was incredible; he made me want to take care of him. He seemed so vulnerable and seemingly never grew out of his shyness. He said if we wanted to understand him, we should read the words or listen to childhood.

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Reply #457 posted 06/27/09 10:17am

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daPrettyman said:

graecophilos said:



I have to believe that I could not imagine MJ getting old. I always thought he would die at a young age.

And to be honest - it's only consequently. It will manifest his myth. Now he's a legend.

This untimely death is the perfect cinematic ending for a sad, sad life.

From where I stand, his life didn't seem that sad. Sure, he had problems and drama like most of us, but his was amplified more because of the media.


Michael's life wasn't a bed of roses either. It was pretty sad, not to mention he was battling depression,being in a great deal of physical pain and dealing with a lotta drama, from everybody wanting a piece of him. He live a secluded life pretty much after that last child molestation case. I know he felt like being in hell on earth. I mean it's pretty hard to getaway from people when you are know worldwide!




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Reply #458 posted 06/27/09 10:23am

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While I admire someone who isn't afraid and stands up for their opinion, I admire someone even more who knows the appropriate time to speak it. I, myself, have talked about his antics in the last decade or so but I was a fan of his music long before he began those antics and those antics don't change all that old great music that I grew up with.

I'm not even going to bring up or even debate any of his antics because this isn't the appropriate time to do so. When I have, in the past, it was appropriate because he was still living. And yes, it will be appropriate to discuss and debate these antics in the future. Why is this time inappropriate? Because the man just died and isn't even in the ground yet. I don't see myself as being a hypocrit and I'll tell you why. To bring up and argue Michael Jackson's antics during this time isn't hurting Michael Jackson (not that I would want to), it's hurting his fans on this board. There are a lot of hardcore Michael Jackson fans on this board and a lot of them love and discuss a lot of other great artists on this board, not just Michael Jackson. A lot of them seem to be nice and wonderful people and I consider a lot of them as online friends. Why would I want to hurt them especially when they just lost their favorite entertainer that means so much to them? Hell, even I have lost a man that made some great music that I grew up with. But nevermind me, why would you want to hurt them? Does every one of your friends or family members agree with and have the same exact tastes and views that you have? I'm sure they don't but you still like them don't you and wouldn't want to hurt them.

What you are doing right now is not simply voicing your opinion because there will definately be an appropriate time and place for that in the future. What you are doing right now is kicking people while they are down and that's not a strong person at all, it's an incredibly weak one.
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clapping clapping you said it all!!!! Could not have said it better. Some people are very sick and have no respect period. It's fine to share your opinion. You don't have to like or praise Michael Jackson, but right now is very inappropriate to be speaking so horribly of him. A lot of his fans like myself are hurting so much right now. Even if I didn't like someone, I would never troll a thread and speaking ill of them after they just died. It's really disrespectful. I don't know what's wrong with some people. I hope to all the people who have had nasty things to say about Michael, I hope when you pass on that people show you, your family and friends more compassion than you have shown to Michael, his fans, etc. I really do.
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Reply #459 posted 06/27/09 10:24am

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Chic35 said:

I know Joe Jackson's conscious gotta be kicking the shit outta him by now.

amen!! this is gonna be very, very hard on him


as well it should be
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Reply #460 posted 06/27/09 10:31am

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a report of a tribute from Dizzee Rascal during his performance at Glastonbury today, probably too early for footage to be online.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/h...122642.stm
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Reply #461 posted 06/27/09 11:03am

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PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Reply #462 posted 06/27/09 11:07am

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Michael Jackson To Make Billboard Chart History

Keith Caulfield, L.A.

Next week, Michael Jackson will once again make music history as many of his albums are poised to shake up the Billboard charts with incredible sales increases.

The impact of Jackson's passing was felt immediately in the marketplace. Industry sources report that the demand for Jackson's albums were so high, many brick and mortar retailers simply ran out of whatever Jackson stock they had on hand on Thursday (25) night.


The albums with the greatest sales increases -- at least on the physical side of things -- look to be his greatest hits packages "Number Ones" and "The Essential Michael Jackson" along with the expanded reissue of "Thriller." The sets, released between 2003 and 2008, were the three Jackson albums that perhaps had the most stock available in stores.

In the digital realm, where the supply problem doesn't exist, Jackson's songs and albums swarmed the top of the constantly-updating best sellers lists in both the iTunes' and Amazon's online music stores. At one point on Friday in the iTunes Store, nine out of the top 10-selling albums and 40 of the top 100-selling songs were by Jackson.

The three aforementioned albums, along with Jackson's classic studio sets "Off the Wall," "Bad" and "Dangerous" all will likely zoom into the upper region of Billboard's Top Pop Catalog Albums chart next week. Initial reports of Jackson's album sales from Thursday alone indicate that one of his albums -- possibly "Number Ones" -- will easily fly to No. 1 on the chart next week. Last week, the set -- which also was his top-selling album of the week -- was at No. 20 on the Catalog chart with 4,000 sold.

To compare, last week's No. 1 on the Catalog chart was TobyMac's "Portable Sounds" with 9,000 copies sold. Sources say that at least one of Jackson's albums sold more than double that amount just on Thursday.

Nielsen SoundScan's tracking week ends at the close of business on Sunday (28). Billboard and SoundScan's new weekly charts will be released on Wednesday, July 1.

http://www.billboard.com/...8531.story

-Still breaking records even in death! Knowing Michael, he wouldn't have wanted it any other way.
"And When The Groove Is Dead And Gone, You Know That Love Survives, So We Can Rock Forever" RIP MJ heart

"Baby, that was much too fast"...Goodnight dear sweet Prince. I'll love you always heart
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Reply #463 posted 06/27/09 11:13am

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Reply #464 posted 06/27/09 11:16am

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Cinnamon234 said:

Michael Jackson To Make Billboard Chart History

Keith Caulfield, L.A.

Next week, Michael Jackson will once again make music history as many of his albums are poised to shake up the Billboard charts with incredible sales increases.

The impact of Jackson's passing was felt immediately in the marketplace. Industry sources report that the demand for Jackson's albums were so high, many brick and mortar retailers simply ran out of whatever Jackson stock they had on hand on Thursday (25) night.


The albums with the greatest sales increases -- at least on the physical side of things -- look to be his greatest hits packages "Number Ones" and "The Essential Michael Jackson" along with the expanded reissue of "Thriller." The sets, released between 2003 and 2008, were the three Jackson albums that perhaps had the most stock available in stores.

In the digital realm, where the supply problem doesn't exist, Jackson's songs and albums swarmed the top of the constantly-updating best sellers lists in both the iTunes' and Amazon's online music stores. At one point on Friday in the iTunes Store, nine out of the top 10-selling albums and 40 of the top 100-selling songs were by Jackson.

The three aforementioned albums, along with Jackson's classic studio sets "Off the Wall," "Bad" and "Dangerous" all will likely zoom into the upper region of Billboard's Top Pop Catalog Albums chart next week. Initial reports of Jackson's album sales from Thursday alone indicate that one of his albums -- possibly "Number Ones" -- will easily fly to No. 1 on the chart next week. Last week, the set -- which also was his top-selling album of the week -- was at No. 20 on the Catalog chart with 4,000 sold.

To compare, last week's No. 1 on the Catalog chart was TobyMac's "Portable Sounds" with 9,000 copies sold. Sources say that at least one of Jackson's albums sold more than double that amount just on Thursday.

Nielsen SoundScan's tracking week ends at the close of business on Sunday (28). Billboard and SoundScan's new weekly charts will be released on Wednesday, July 1.

http://www.billboard.com/...8531.story

-Still breaking records even in death! Knowing Michael, he wouldn't have wanted it any other way.


His debt should be cleared in no time if that keeps happening...
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Reply #465 posted 06/27/09 11:25am

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ecnirp98 said:


As for Prince remembering Jackson/attending funerals etc, Prince should do what he thinks is correct for him, no one on here knows what MJ and Prince's relationship was, all we know is they had met, discussed recording together etc, but their ego's were just too big for anything like that ever to happen !!
lots of people will be exploiting MJ's memory saying what they knew, how he was etc, Prince will not do that, I'm sure what Prince does will be in private to MJ's family, so if we do not 'hear' anything in the tabloids, it doesn't mean Prince has ignored MJ's death.



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Reply #466 posted 06/27/09 11:29am

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His debt should be cleared in no time if that keeps happening...

i dunno, man. i figure people are still gonna be chasing after him, saying "i want my money!" even though he's gone. disbelief
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Reply #467 posted 06/27/09 11:29am

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I did a little video that explains how I felt about the whole Michael situation



I also did a funny performance of Billie Jean in 2008. You guys could check that out also.
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Reply #468 posted 06/27/09 11:30am

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Cinnamon234 said:

Michael Jackson To Make Billboard Chart History

Keith Caulfield, L.A.

Next week, Michael Jackson will once again make music history as many of his albums are poised to shake up the Billboard charts with incredible sales increases.

The impact of Jackson's passing was felt immediately in the marketplace. Industry sources report that the demand for Jackson's albums were so high, many brick and mortar retailers simply ran out of whatever Jackson stock they had on hand on Thursday (25) night.


The albums with the greatest sales increases -- at least on the physical side of things -- look to be his greatest hits packages "Number Ones" and "The Essential Michael Jackson" along with the expanded reissue of "Thriller." The sets, released between 2003 and 2008, were the three Jackson albums that perhaps had the most stock available in stores.

In the digital realm, where the supply problem doesn't exist, Jackson's songs and albums swarmed the top of the constantly-updating best sellers lists in both the iTunes' and Amazon's online music stores. At one point on Friday in the iTunes Store, nine out of the top 10-selling albums and 40 of the top 100-selling songs were by Jackson.

The three aforementioned albums, along with Jackson's classic studio sets "Off the Wall," "Bad" and "Dangerous" all will likely zoom into the upper region of Billboard's Top Pop Catalog Albums chart next week. Initial reports of Jackson's album sales from Thursday alone indicate that one of his albums -- possibly "Number Ones" -- will easily fly to No. 1 on the chart next week. Last week, the set -- which also was his top-selling album of the week -- was at No. 20 on the Catalog chart with 4,000 sold.

To compare, last week's No. 1 on the Catalog chart was TobyMac's "Portable Sounds" with 9,000 copies sold. Sources say that at least one of Jackson's albums sold more than double that amount just on Thursday.

Nielsen SoundScan's tracking week ends at the close of business on Sunday (28). Billboard and SoundScan's new weekly charts will be released on Wednesday, July 1.

http://www.billboard.com/...8531.story

-Still breaking records even in death! Knowing Michael, he wouldn't have wanted it any other way.


Do I now have permission to say "Michael is BIGGER than Elvis AND The Beatles"?!?
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Reply #469 posted 06/27/09 11:33am

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BSK3478 said:

Chic35 said:

His debt should be cleared in no time if that keeps happening...

i dunno, man. i figure people are still gonna be chasing after him, saying "i want my money!" even though he's gone. disbelief

We all thought when JB passed a few years ago it was bad to to quote MJ "You Ain't Seen Nothin' Yet!"
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Reply #470 posted 06/27/09 11:39am

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TonyVanDam said:

Cinnamon234 said:

Michael Jackson To Make Billboard Chart History

Keith Caulfield, L.A.

Next week, Michael Jackson will once again make music history as many of his albums are poised to shake up the Billboard charts with incredible sales increases.

The impact of Jackson's passing was felt immediately in the marketplace. Industry sources report that the demand for Jackson's albums were so high, many brick and mortar retailers simply ran out of whatever Jackson stock they had on hand on Thursday (25) night.


The albums with the greatest sales increases -- at least on the physical side of things -- look to be his greatest hits packages "Number Ones" and "The Essential Michael Jackson" along with the expanded reissue of "Thriller." The sets, released between 2003 and 2008, were the three Jackson albums that perhaps had the most stock available in stores.

In the digital realm, where the supply problem doesn't exist, Jackson's songs and albums swarmed the top of the constantly-updating best sellers lists in both the iTunes' and Amazon's online music stores. At one point on Friday in the iTunes Store, nine out of the top 10-selling albums and 40 of the top 100-selling songs were by Jackson.

The three aforementioned albums, along with Jackson's classic studio sets "Off the Wall," "Bad" and "Dangerous" all will likely zoom into the upper region of Billboard's Top Pop Catalog Albums chart next week. Initial reports of Jackson's album sales from Thursday alone indicate that one of his albums -- possibly "Number Ones" -- will easily fly to No. 1 on the chart next week. Last week, the set -- which also was his top-selling album of the week -- was at No. 20 on the Catalog chart with 4,000 sold.

To compare, last week's No. 1 on the Catalog chart was TobyMac's "Portable Sounds" with 9,000 copies sold. Sources say that at least one of Jackson's albums sold more than double that amount just on Thursday.

Nielsen SoundScan's tracking week ends at the close of business on Sunday (28). Billboard and SoundScan's new weekly charts will be released on Wednesday, July 1.

http://www.billboard.com/...8531.story

-Still breaking records even in death! Knowing Michael, he wouldn't have wanted it any other way.


Do I now have permission to say "Michael is BIGGER than Elvis AND The Beatles"?!?


no because 4,000 copies are a joke.
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Reply #471 posted 06/27/09 11:42am

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graecophilos said:

TonyVanDam said:



Do I now have permission to say "Michael is BIGGER than Elvis AND The Beatles"?!?


no because 4,000 copies are a joke.


Oh damn! disbelief lol
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Reply #472 posted 06/27/09 11:45am

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Coroner's officials said they released Jackson's body to his family late Friday night. The family is still trying to determine what kind of memorial to have for Jackson and when, and are debating between the idea of having a private ceremony or a grand celebration open to the public.
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Reply #473 posted 06/27/09 11:48am

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BSK3478 said:

Chic35 said:

His debt should be cleared in no time if that keeps happening...

i dunno, man. i figure people are still gonna be chasing after him, saying "i want my money!" even though he's gone. disbelief



Well you can't squeeze blood out of a turnipe! shrug
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Reply #474 posted 06/27/09 11:52am

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I hope MJ sorted out his will and all his money will be safe, and go to his kids and family.

We don't want leeches to bleed his money after his death.

Hopefully, his family will sort it out.
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Reply #476 posted 06/27/09 11:53am

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TonyVanDam said:

Do I now have permission to say "Michael is BIGGER than Elvis AND The Beatles"?!?


Was there ever any doubt? I mean, how many black folks have Elvis and Beatles records in their collection? Some do but not a hell of a whole lot of them. And not to mention all the generations that got all into Michael Jackson that weren't even born yet when he was huge. Hell Michael Jackson became as well loved to those children as much as Barney and "Sesame Street".

I've never seen anything like it in my life. Michael Jackson's music was bought widespread by whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, and any other race out there as well as by children, teenagers, young adults, middle aged adults, and even a few senior citizens. Elvis and The Beatles were never that huge all the way across the board like Michael was.
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Reply #477 posted 06/27/09 11:55am

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third time trying to say this, stupid computer!!!

anyway, i saw on the news that mj has over 1000 songs to be released after his death. perhaps that will help with the financial problems and give the children some money as well. in addition it will give all of his fans something to look forward to and enjoy even in his absence... still not the same, but there is a small gift to be thankful for rose
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an artist with no fans is really just a man with a hobby....
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Reply #478 posted 06/27/09 11:58am

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nakedpianoplayer said:

third time trying to say this, stupid computer!!!

anyway, i saw on the news that mj has over 1000 songs to be released after his death. perhaps that will help with the financial problems and give the children some money as well. in addition it will give all of his fans something to look forward to and enjoy even in his absence... still not the same, but there is a small gift to be thankful for rose


Oh hell, if some of those are jams recorded from the late 70s/early 80s, I'll be first in line at the record store. lol
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Reply #479 posted 06/27/09 12:02pm

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vainandy said:

TonyVanDam said:

Do I now have permission to say "Michael is BIGGER than Elvis AND The Beatles"?!?


Was there ever any doubt? I mean, how many black folks have Elvis and Beatles records in their collection? Some do but not a hell of a whole lot of them. And not to mention all the generations that got all into Michael Jackson that weren't even born yet when he was huge. Hell Michael Jackson became as well loved to those children as much as Barney and "Sesame Street".

I've never seen anything like it in my life. Michael Jackson's music was bought widespread by whites, blacks, hispanics, asians, and any other race out there as well as by children, teenagers, young adults, middle aged adults, and even a few senior citizens. Elvis and The Beatles were never that huge all the way across the board like Michael was.
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Exactly...he crossed all color lines, religious affiliations, cultures...he appealed to children, adults, and senior citizens.

I was browsing through some of the youtube vids and I saw a comment from someone in Zimbabwe saying that the first English words they ever spoke were "Micheal Jackson."
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