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Thread started 06/26/09 7:41am

Anxiety

Michael Jackson RIP (Part 2)



This is a continuation of this thread: http://prince.org/msg/8/312176?&pg=1

Please use this thread to discuss your thoughts, feelings, and any reports, blogs, images, YouTube videos, etc., you'd like to share in memory of Michael Jackson.

PLEASE KEEP YOUR POSTS TASTEFUL AND RESPECTFUL.

Distasteful content will be deleted without prior warning, at the discretion of the site moderators. Those who continue to create offensive/disrespectful posts on this thread will have their accounts deactivated.


Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts, memories and feelings in the previous installment of this thread. Please continue to share those comments here.
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Reply #1 posted 06/26/09 7:44am

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RIP..... sad
MICHAEL JACKSON
R.I.P
مايكل جاكسون للأبد
1958
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Reply #2 posted 06/26/09 7:45am

steelyd

Anxiety said:



This is a continuation of this thread: http://prince.org/msg/8/312176?&pg=1

Please use this thread to discuss your thoughts, feelings, and any reports, blogs, images, YouTube videos, etc., you'd like to share in memory of Michael Jackson.

PLEASE KEEP YOUR POSTS TASTEFUL AND RESPECTFUL.

Distasteful content will be deleted without prior warning, at the discretion of the site moderators. Those who continue to create offensive/disrespectful posts on this thread will have their accounts deactivated.


Thanks to everyone who shared their thoughts, memories and feelings in the previous installment of this thread. Please continue to share those comments here.




Do you know if a message has been posted on Lotusflow3r.com? I'm not a member yet.
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Reply #3 posted 06/26/09 7:46am

DesireeNevermi
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I stayed up late watching the news and reruns of the news. Even until I went to bed it was hard to believe and absorb. But now he is really gone in my mind, forever gone, and all these people speaking about him...where were they when he needed them most. All his financial and legal problems and nobody was there to give the brother a hand? Now they're going through his stuff. disbelief
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Reply #4 posted 06/26/09 7:49am

Anxiety

steelyd said:



Do you know if a message has been posted on Lotusflow3r.com? I'm not a member yet.


nothing has been posted on prince's site at this time. if something is posted, we will report on it.
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Reply #5 posted 06/26/09 7:50am

Arnotts

I think I'm feeling worse now then I was when I first heard. Despite all the crying and all the hysteria I displayed when I first found out I still didnt quite feel it. Now it's hit me, big time, and its the most empty feeling in the world. Thanks to those who are being respectful and contributing positively even if they don't quite understand the extremely strong feelings some fans display.
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Reply #6 posted 06/26/09 7:51am

purplecam

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I'm still sitting here at work shocked at this. I also went to bed watching the news over this stuff. I just can't believe that he's gone. Deep down, I wanted to see Michael make a comeback. My attitude with Michael had started changing and becoming more positive with him in the last year(thank you Timmy84 and bboy87 hug) and I would have loved to have seen MJ perform live if he would have brought his tour to NYC. Now that's not going to happen. I'm just so heartbroken by all of this. sad
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #7 posted 06/26/09 7:54am

Anxiety

purplecam said:

I'm still sitting here at work shocked at this. I also went to bed watching the news over this stuff. I just can't believe that he's gone. Deep down, I wanted to see Michael make a comeback. My attitude with Michael had started changing and becoming more positive with him in the last year(thank you Timmy84 and bboy87 hug) and I would have loved to have seen MJ perform live if he would have brought his tour to NYC. Now that's not going to happen. I'm just so heartbroken by all of this. sad


i remember thinking a long time ago...i think it might have even been when i was in college (and that was a LOOOONG time ago)...that it would be so cool for him to write the one perfect, introspective, beautifully crafted and ADULT comeback album of his career, with the best producers, the best intentions, and a level of quality that would raise the bar the way thriller did, and the way off the wall did before that. he had some good moments post-thriller, but i still felt like he could still make that one album that could wow us all one more time. i guess now all we're left with is our imaginations...
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Reply #8 posted 06/26/09 7:56am

chuckaducci

Normally, I think threads honoring deceased musicians and artists at this forum are immensely stupid. People post those silly emoticons and everybody seems to scramble to profess their sadness for an artist they didn't know on a personal level. And I usually find sentiments expressed in these threads tacky and disingenuous. But not this time....

Michael Jackson is what art is: The ability to cause an affect on you without having a personal experience with the creator through via art. Great music does that. And so did Michael Jackson. My heart is very heavy this morning because a happy part of my childhood has died along with him. I realize that I'm getting older, that death will be coming for me. I have no aspirations in touching millions of people like Michael Jackson did. That is impossible and not a mantle I could handle. But when I have kids, I hope that their father will inspire them the way Michael Jackson inspired me.
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Reply #9 posted 06/26/09 7:59am

NastradumasKid

Such a sad time. sigh

BTW, I wish people would shut the fuck up with the bitching about how Prince should say something about MJ. I don't understand why people think he has to do that. Even if he did, what will it prove?
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Reply #10 posted 06/26/09 8:00am

Mac

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[I was about to post this to the previous MJ RIP but it just locked up, so let me toss it up here before the part 2 gets too far in]

Look people, there will always be multiple views/debate surrounding MJ

Sorry to say but there will never be "peace, love, harmony, agreement" about MJ or his music or his personal legacy ... not looking to offend or disrespect him or anyone here... just pointing out, in light of all this, it should (within reason) not be shocking and should be expected that there is never going to be agreement or lack of argument when these topics arise (to say nothing of his actual passing), - even here on this forum. Does that really surprise anyone?

(BTW, does all that not also sound somewhat familiar re: another famous controversial musician often mentioned on this site? Should any of us be shocked by any of this?)

Something I have always liked about this site is that people here regardless of difference in opinion still somehow manage to occupy the same space together (not saying harmoniously, but they/we do). There are people here who like the Rev only, some who live for symbol era hip hoppish funk, some who are down with the latest, some who love it all, some who love none of it (it seems), idolizers, dedicated disciples, casual onlookers, ardent critics, rabid detractors, all here. Why would any of us expect less or different on this matter?

If you are in the segment of this forum that is mourning MJ's passing then just do your self a favor and either grant a generous dose of tolerance or just skip over the comments that fall outside that scope, dont fuel the side of the house you want to chill out, just read and post what you came to do, dont let those with a different view inflame you.

If you are in the segment of the forum that is somewhat or somehow put off by some of the emotionally overwhelmed comments, or respect "but", etc, or maybe just do not see it the "majority" way here, in whatever regard, please just do your self a favor and either grant a generous dose of tolerance or just skip over the comments that fall within that scope, dont fuel the side of the house you want to chill out, just read and post what you came to do, dont let those with a different view inflame you.

The fact that some here have differing views from one another is irrelevant as long as we can manage to at least be respectful enough to one another as sharing this forum that we can tolerate sharing the space here on this thread too...

Bottom line, "can't we all just get along"? At least on this one? bitchfight confuse hug

It's a thought anyway tumbleweed
[Edited 6/26/09 8:01am]
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Reply #11 posted 06/26/09 8:01am

LittleBLUECorv
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Man IM at work but dont really feel like doin anything. Mike is like family.
PRINCE: Always and Forever
MICHAEL JACKSON: Always and Forever
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Live Your Life How U Wanna Live It
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Reply #12 posted 06/26/09 8:02am

TonyVanDam

It's 9:58am in my area. And I'm running late for work. But I'll be looking forward returning in this thread this afternoon.

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Reply #13 posted 06/26/09 8:03am

NastradumasKid

Mac said:

[I was about to post this to the previous MJ RIP but it just locked up, so let me toss it up here before the part 2 gets too far in]

Look people, there will always be multiple views/debate surrounding MJ

Sorry to say but there will never be "peace, love, harmony, agreement" about MJ or his music or his personal legacy ... not looking to offend or disrespect him or anyone here... just pointing out, in light of all this, it should (within reason) not be shocking and should be expected that there is never going to be agreement or lack of argument when these topics arise (to say nothing of his actual passing), - even here on this forum. Does that really surprise anyone?

(BTW, does all that not also sound somewhat familiar re: another famous controversial musician often mentioned on this site? Should any of us be shocked by any of this?)

Something I have always liked about this site is that people here regardless of difference in opinion still somehow manage to occupy the same space together (not saying harmoniously, but they/we do). There are people here who like the Rev only, some who live for symbol era hip hoppish funk, some who are down with the latest, some who love it all, some who love none of it (it seems), idolizers, dedicated disciples, casual onlookers, ardent critics, rabid detractors, all here. Why would any of us expect less or different on this matter?

If you are in the segment of this forum that is mourning MJ's passing then just do your self a favor and either grant a generous dose of tolerance or just skip over the comments that fall outside that scope, dont fuel the side of the house you want to chill out, just read and post what you came to do, dont let those with a different view inflame you.

If you are in the segment of the forum that is somewhat or somehow put off by some of the emotionally overwhelmed comments, or respect "but", etc, or maybe just do not see it the "majority" way here, in whatever regard, please just do your self a favor and either grant a generous dose of tolerance or just skip over the comments that fall within that scope, dont fuel the side of the house you want to chill out, just read and post what you came to do, dont let those with a different view inflame you.

The fact that some here have differing views from one another is irrelevant as long as we can manage to at least be respectful enough to one another as sharing this forum that we can tolerate sharing the space here on this thread too...

Bottom line, "can't we all just get along"? At least on this one? bitchfight confuse hug

It's a thought anyway tumbleweed
[Edited 6/26/09 8:01am]


They're alway6s gonna talk trash about this man probably 50 years from now you'll be hearing crap like "He was pedo!!!!" So you just have to learn to ignore it even if it's annoying.
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Reply #14 posted 06/26/09 8:05am

iloveannie

I was shocked initially and then thought "Thank fuck it wasn't Prince" and then I thought "I wonder how many record sales they'll make now?".

Cold, heartless, but it's what went through my head.
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Reply #15 posted 06/26/09 8:06am

paisleypark4

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Man IM at work but dont really feel like doin anything. Mike is like family.


I know....you grow up with the dude....he is some of my first memories. It doesnt matter if someone met the man or not. It's like watching a family member..going through all of his ups and downs for years..reading his books, spending money on his body of work. Trying to copy him. How can someone NOT love this man?
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Reply #16 posted 06/26/09 8:06am

DesireeNevermi
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NastradumasKid said:

Such a sad time. sigh

BTW, I wish people would shut the fuck up with the bitching about how Prince should say something about MJ. I don't understand why people think he has to do that. Even if he did, what will it prove?



He's spoken about MJ when MJ was alive and in a respectful manner so it is befitting that he speak about his passing. Madonna did and she, Prince and MJ were some of if not the most influential and talented artists of the 80s and onward. Shit even Donna Summer chimed in.
But then again, its not like the media outlets are scrambling for his opinion and thoughts.
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Reply #17 posted 06/26/09 8:11am

optimus

I lost an angel today who touched my mind, body and soul,
Peace for all the world over was his number one goal,

He was a crusader for the young, the indiffrent, and the poor
To think we wont be touched by his magic persona no-more,

I heard You Are Not Alone on the radio earlier and nearly cried,
So sad to think that this true gift from heaven had left us and died,

His Love, his inner-child, his compassion will be missed by all a great ton
Its funny u dont realiaze how much someone means to u..till there gone

R.I.P Michael...Luv Ya Always
Everybody's looking 4 the ladder
Everybody wants salvation of the soul
The steps U take are no easy road
But the reward is great
4 those who want 2 go
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Reply #18 posted 06/26/09 8:13am

Anxiety

More comments from the music world, via pitchfork.com:

?uestlove of the Roots: I know we make light of me never getting sleep and overworking. But I'll say that he didn't go in vain. I will do my best to slow down as to not overwork myself to the point in which I can't even enjoy life anymore. I am devastated over this but we all have memories. I just hope that he will get due justice in all the press memorials and whatnot. I know he was mired in controversy the last decade of his life but I think it's time we let him rest in peace and learn to separate the ART and the ARTIST. That is the MJ I will forever remember. Elvis got revisionist media treatment. I expect the friggin same for my hero.

Saul Williams: I received a MJ scholarship from the 25 million he gave UNCF for performing arts students. Thank u MJ 4 inspiring & funding my dreams & education.

The Decemberists' Colin Meloy: Whoa. The deli lady started weeping while she was getting my greek salad.

The Cool Kids' Chuck Inglish: Listening to Off the Wall... Fuck it... I'm not gonna be sad about it. He left us with some of the best songs ever crafted. Do you remember when you saw Mike do the moonwalk the first time... I do! ... That's why I can't be sad... The moonwalk game for Sega! I know you remember that. Or when you lost one of your gloves... you didn't even give a shit... Because Mike only rocked one...

DOOM: A little bit of everyone died today, I can tell you a piece of me just did. Let's just say this is the first time I've watched MTV in a long time

Mogwai's Stuart Braithwaite: You bought the Elephant Man's bones and sent a statue of yourself round the world. RIP you amazingly talented loonball.

Carrie Brownstein: Michael Jackson is dead. Those are frightening words to write. They are more scary than any paparazzi photo of Jackson's nose crumbling to pieces, stranger than images of his faceless children wearing shrouds while shopping at the mall, creepier than his skin whitening disease, the burnt hair, the molestation allegations and trial, his chimpanzee confidante, and Neverland combined.

Clipse's Malice: 1983 Malice Christmas List... A White Suit and a Tiger

M.I.A.: MICHAEL JACKSON the first 2 english words i eva spoke . the future sucx!

P. Diddy: Michael Jackson showed me that you can actually see the beat. He made the music come to life!! He made me believe in magic. I will miss him!
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Reply #19 posted 06/26/09 8:13am

NastradumasKid

DesireeNevermind said:

NastradumasKid said:

Such a sad time. sigh

BTW, I wish people would shut the fuck up with the bitching about how Prince should say something about MJ. I don't understand why people think he has to do that. Even if he did, what will it prove?



He's spoken about MJ when MJ was alive and in a respectful manner so it is befitting that he speak about his passing. Madonna did and she, Prince and MJ were some of if not the most influential and talented artists of the 80s and onward. Shit even Donna Summer chimed in.
But then again, its not like the media outlets are scrambling for his opinion and thoughts.



I see what you mean but I don't think he neccessarily has to do anything.
[Edited 6/26/09 8:13am]
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Reply #20 posted 06/26/09 8:15am

Countthedays

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Radio stations are playing his music, and his death is sinking in.

Even for the people that are not fans
know how much of a pop icon he was.

Michael's health was fading but he
was still thinking of his fans!

For those who wanna be cruel right now
remember you have to die one day too
Please be respectful at this time...

RIP,

Michael Jackson
A stupid man’s report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
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Reply #21 posted 06/26/09 8:16am

BSK3478

NastradumasKid said:

Such a sad time. sigh

BTW, I wish people would shut the fuck up with the bitching about how Prince should say something about MJ. I don't understand why people think he has to do that. Even if he did, what will it prove?

co-sign. it's the extreme last thing on my mind at the moment.

anyways, i'm surprised at how large the first thread was. that was massive and, for the most part, very respectful. hope it'll continue here too. biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 06/26/09 8:16am

Anxiety

for the MPLS fans:

http://minnesota.publicra...son_bells/


Minneapolis bells to toll for Michael Jackson
by Elizabeth Baier, Minnesota Public Radio
June 26, 2009

St. Paul, Minn. — A tribute will take place this morning in downtown Minneapolis in honor of idolized superstar Michael Jackson, who was pronounced dead Thursday afternoon at the U.C.L.A. Medical Center.

The landmark bells of Minneapolis City Hall and Hennepin County Courthouse will ring for 20 minutes in honor of the "King of Pop."

From 11:30 to 11:50 a.m., a volunteer chime player will play a series of songs written or popularized by Jackson, including "We Are the World," "Ben," and "You are Not Alone."

The concert is part of the regular Friday midday series of popular music on the bells. The second part of the concert, from 1 to 1:30 p.m., will consist of other popular music unrelated to Jackson.

The bells can be heard over a large area of downtown Minneapolis, but some of the best listening spots include the plazas of Hennepin County Government Center and the U.S. Courthouse and the park opposite the Star Tribune.

The concert is free and open to the public.
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Reply #23 posted 06/26/09 8:17am

Mac

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WHEN has it EVER been Prince's MO to go rushing top speed into the arms of the press??? confused

Prince does not run out and say something, he walks out and in a few words says it all... (however one cares to interpret that)

Give the purple man some time people. I have no doubt at all that Prince's phone has probably been taken off the hook from calls from media asking for his comment, considering that is what they are doing to every "A-list in the 80s" artists today. I have no doubt P will comment when he's ready to do so...
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Reply #24 posted 06/26/09 8:20am

wrekkastow

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It was with stunned silence I watched Sky News last night after coming home late.

Firstly, denial: Denial that one of the most influential recording artists in history had died and then secondly saddness. Saddness that the world had lost a true icon. A huge presence in life and work which must have shaped and inspired generations of artists and their own work.

Whatever the media attention and negativity which sporadically invaded his life from time to time, he will always, no, he SHOULD always be remembered for his craft. As a child superstar through to the self proclaimed King of Pop, his music has influenced and touched us all at one time or another and for that he will always be respected and reverred.

We have lost a true legend and one hopes he receives the right kind of press and ultimately, send off he deserves.

R.I.P - You shall be missed.

Matt
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Reply #25 posted 06/26/09 8:21am

BSK3478

Anxiety said:

for the MPLS fans:

http://minnesota.publicra...son_bells/


Minneapolis bells to toll for Michael Jackson
by Elizabeth Baier, Minnesota Public Radio
June 26, 2009

St. Paul, Minn. — A tribute will take place this morning in downtown Minneapolis in honor of idolized superstar Michael Jackson, who was pronounced dead Thursday afternoon at the U.C.L.A. Medical Center.

The landmark bells of Minneapolis City Hall and Hennepin County Courthouse will ring for 20 minutes in honor of the "King of Pop."

From 11:30 to 11:50 a.m., a volunteer chime player will play a series of songs written or popularized by Jackson, including "We Are the World," "Ben," and "You are Not Alone."

The concert is part of the regular Friday midday series of popular music on the bells. The second part of the concert, from 1 to 1:30 p.m., will consist of other popular music unrelated to Jackson.

The bells can be heard over a large area of downtown Minneapolis, but some of the best listening spots include the plazas of Hennepin County Government Center and the U.S. Courthouse and the park opposite the Star Tribune.

The concert is free and open to the public.

if they were to do this over the noon hour, i'd go over to the government center to listen during my lunch break. sad
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Reply #26 posted 06/26/09 8:22am

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when someone your age who was your rival so to speak (but still respected and admired by you) passes unexpectedly - its gotta be hard to deal with. honestly, out of MJ, Madonna and Prince, i always knew MJ would go first but not this soon.

p.s.
I read somewhere that severe cases of vitiligo can result in death. anybody know more about this disease?
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Reply #27 posted 06/26/09 8:26am

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Anxiety said:

purplecam said:

I'm still sitting here at work shocked at this. I also went to bed watching the news over this stuff. I just can't believe that he's gone. Deep down, I wanted to see Michael make a comeback. My attitude with Michael had started changing and becoming more positive with him in the last year(thank you Timmy84 and bboy87 hug) and I would have loved to have seen MJ perform live if he would have brought his tour to NYC. Now that's not going to happen. I'm just so heartbroken by all of this. sad


i remember thinking a long time ago...i think it might have even been when i was in college (and that was a LOOOONG time ago)...that it would be so cool for him to write the one perfect, introspective, beautifully crafted and ADULT comeback album of his career, with the best producers, the best intentions, and a level of quality that would raise the bar the way thriller did, and the way off the wall did before that. he had some good moments post-thriller, but i still felt like he could still make that one album that could wow us all one more time. i guess now all we're left with is our imaginations...

That's the truth. I was hoping to see that album come to light too. That's whats so sad for me, the "What If's" with Michael cause there are so many in my mind with him. I still think he had a lot to give to the world and now we'll never know what could've been. That pisses me off.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #28 posted 06/26/09 8:28am

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LittleBLUECorvette said:

Man IM at work but dont really feel like doin anything. Mike is like family.

Man me either. I've hardly done any work today going back and forth on the internet following the news on MJ or talking to co-workers on Michael.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #29 posted 06/26/09 8:29am

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...

I was trying to post in the other forum but I don't know if loaded...Sorry if it repeats...




I remember going to see the Jackson 5 back in '73. I was pretty young then, but even at the time, I was thinking, "Man, he was born to be on the stage.." Having said that, though, he really didn't get to have a choice....

Although his work is an important part of my formative years, I've always found it sad that he had to give up so much, at such a young age, and continued to give so much of his life for the sake of entertainment....

But I wanted to just give Thanks, Love and Respect for someone who devoted so much life and energy, blood, sweat and tears to bring smiles to so many in the world.

Rest in Peace, Mike.







...
" I've got six things on my mind --you're no longer one of them." - Paddy McAloon, Prefab Sprout
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