japanrocks said:

It must be the stress and disbelief about Michael being gone, but I laughed like hell at this routine.


May you find the peace in death that eluded you in life, Michael.

LondonStyle said:

You're trying to make yourself a victim. But you're not one, no matter how much you want to be.

seeingvoices12 said:

What gets me is why did his doctor give him a clean bill of health if he was in no condition to perform. You're right. He's at peace now, and I woke up this morning trying to fight back the tears, but...

LondonStyle said:

i agree

then again, the media loves MJ and pretty much created the MJ frenzy and meanwhile innocent lives are being taken in Iran
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Correction MJ created the frenzy the media reported it!
innocent lives are being taken 100 miles from your door ...you don't have to go to iran to find it...
Both points have nothing to do with the sad passing of MJ

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I;d say they're very much related and part of the point made about modern socieyy, its whims and its priorities. People get brutally murdered = some media coverage and public comment. A pop singer dies = Blanket media coverage and mass outpourings of grief and attempts to place your ones self as one of the victims.

I'd say that very much a relevant observation.

razor said:

OH who gives a fuck? Whos gives a fuck if our grief is selfish, if we're making ourselves victims. This is how we feel. I cant help feeling like this even if its not 'natural' or whatever you're trying to say, actually I dont even get what you're trying to say. You telling us this isn't going to change anything, how we feel, whatever.

RIP MJ

Although I will not miss all the constant drama that followed MJ everywhere, I am terribly sadden by his death. I hope he will finally get some peace.

CalhounSq said:

God, that photo brings out so many emotions... ... It deserves an award.
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For grief sakes. Let people decide for themselves how to feel instead of petty lecturing. This is not the time or place. Just let it go and let it be. Peace.

onenitealone said:

that pic was the first and so far only time i just had to break down a little.

the psychoanalysis is understandable for those who are extra for the sake of attention especially if they are one who partook in name calling while he was living.However,At this moment while there are still people learning of what's happened... is not the right time for the discussion. imo


sensationalizing is best left to the people ready to make a quick buck selling t-shirts just as it was done 9-11 there will be opportunist-critics- ones dyin to get on t.v etc


but a vast majority of gen X as well as parents even younger are genuine in grief,tears,shock.

RIP Michael Jackson.

This is a very touching thread.
I hope this thread does not turn into a endless bickering match.

I'm still crying.

razor said:

I'm not really sure what your problem is, or why you feel the need to be callous and condescending to people at this time. A gold star for you for not being impacted by his death. However, others are feeling a loss, and are dealing with it in their own way. I see no reason why you can't leave them alone.

Anxiety said:

You got me pre-edit.

Awwww, Anx... Thank you for posting it - it says so much.

This hit me like a punch in the stomach last night. I've been critical of Michael post-"Bad", but his earlier music was a huge influence on me growing up - a soundtrack to my life. I'll never forget that.

Good-bye, Michael - RIP.

Over on iTunes, Michael Jackson currently has the No. 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 9, 10, 11, 13, 14, 16, 18, 19, 26, 29, 30, 36, 37, 41, 54, 66, 76, 84 charting albums. He also has 26 singles in their Top 100 ranking from No. 5 to 100. And further proving what an incredible artist he was especially in terms of being a music video pioneer he currently has 46 videos charting in the Top 100 including 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 18 & 20.

On the rolling Hot 100 Airplay chart, these are his ranks:

No. 55 - Rock With You (+5.7 million)
No. 71 - Man In The Mirror (+5.4 million)
No. 103 - The Way You Make Me Feel (+3.9 million)
No. 221 - Butterflies (+2.2 million)
No. 346 - You Rock My World (+1.6 million)

"Rock With You" is almost Top 50 in airplay in the US. That's amazing.
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utopia7 said:

Clearly. Which is truly sad, troubling and strange.

My heart is so heavy. RIP Michael. You will be missed.

My feelings on Mj: A song I made last night.
https://rcpt.yousendit.co...05ca229ad6
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VoicesCarry said:

I merely posted my initial thoughts, and then posted some artciles. Since then I have simply been responding to reponses. That's hardly badgering people. Anyway...

VoicesCarry said:

Its also amazing that Michael has the top 15 albums on Amazon!!! Not counting at least another 20 solo and J5 albums scattered throughout the Top 100!!! This man had one hell of a legacy.

razor said:

Don't be disingenous. You knew what kind of response your comments would elicit. And you're still babbling away. Anyway...
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VoicesCarry said:

Responding to questions and responses? Absolutely. Be rude not to I'm sure you'll agree.

And although I may have suspected the type of asnwers I would get from some, I also hoped that others would be interested and "normal" enough to be able to discuss such an aspect of this event. And I was right on both counts. Either way, it's, for me, an very interesting subject and also important in terms of the broad direction our society in taking i.e. fucked-up priorities, culture of seeking victimhood, lack of perspective, and increasingly empty lives to the point where some bloke dying who we've only ever seen on a screen in our lounges, or from a few hundred feet amognst thousands, provokes a reaction akin to personal loss of family etc. Troubling stuff indeed.
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AlexdeParis said:

I know. What a shame.

CrozzaUK said:

Thank you for posting this - and well said.

I read an interview with an actress the other day and she was stating how, at times, she had questioned her purpose in the whole scheme of things - is/was it worth it? what's the point? etc - until someone pointed out that it DOES matter. Musicians, painters, authors, actors/actresses, comedians, artists of all kinds... they take us out of the humdrum. They add another dimension to our lives. They are incredibly important to so many people, in so many different ways. We all have our own experiences and history to draw on... I only have to hear a SECOND of certain songs and I am immediately transported back to another era. And God knows how certain songs/movies/books get us through difficult times...


I was thinking about this last night: the Average Joe works - what? - 40, maybe 50 years. Sometimes in a career/field they love, if they're lucky; the rest of us have to make do/put up and shut up with a job that pays the bills. How amazing to be an artist, like MJ, that not only spent his life doing what he loved (and was damn good at it), but had ALREADY - at age 50 - put the 40 years of graft in. He may have never performed another concert, never sung another tune, never have made another public appearance and still he would have put in an 'average' life's work. And, yet, some people expect so much. Why is it - when you're a celebrity - you are expected to work, and please your fans, until you drop? Some people wouldn't have been satisfied unless MJ carried on until he was 80 years old; yet we don't expect that of any normal individual. He had put in the graft - and still had the potential to do so. The tragedy is that we'll never, ever get the chance to see what may have been...

So sad.

razor said:

This is a thread filled with fans who are not interested in discussing your social experiment. You are doing nothing but antagonizing them pointlessly. This should be obvious.

I can barely find the words.

The next few weeks will test humanity. Im fearing the worst.

To all the MJ fans on here, i hope you all are ok.

I may of lost interest in the music but, the man, never. I defended him with all i got when it came to falsehoods like the trial etc. I was a massive fan for years and was on MJ forums before here. It feels like that part of me has died. I still can't believe it.

Its sad that the only way for MJ to be vindicated as a human being was through death...now everyones his biggest fan....typical. He had a purity that no one understood, we crucified him because of that and he loved us till the very end, even through all the hate towards him.

i just heard on the 4 o clock news over here in the netherlands that
the biggest recordstores are now all out of michael jackson albums.

people have bought so many that new ones need to be printed up with
a quickness since the demand is enormous.

online retailer bol.com stated that every 10 seconds a michael jackson
album is being ordered/sold.



so i guess there's a whole lot of people who want to brush up on their
michael or complete their collection.

VoicesCarry said:

Not an experiment, an observation. And quite why discussing a key (indeed, one of the few) consequences of his death would antagonise anyone I have no idea. It's not a new discussion either, its been held over the Diana drama many times before. What better time to discuss it than in the midst of another example? I would hope Mj fans could provide some interesting insights as to why they have these overblown reactions. There have certainly been some so far..