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Thread started 06/22/09 7:16pm

Timmy84

Ms. Betty Davis - Shut Off the Light!

Probably my favorite B. Davis joint here:



I'm actually playing the song on my stereo RIGHT FUCKIN' NOW! cool

Note: if you can't watch it just in case embedding is disabled, just click right and hit "Watch on YouTube". Case settled. cool
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Reply #1 posted 06/22/09 9:59pm

Timmy84

I don't care if you don't reply, I'm gonna keep on bumping this for listening value. You know I could just change the title for ya... wink
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Reply #2 posted 06/23/09 12:03pm

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Kinda has the "Superstitious", Stevie vibe to it....I likes!!
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #3 posted 06/23/09 12:09pm

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

Kinda has the "Superstitious", Stevie vibe to it....I likes!!


It does, I just love her "dontgiveafuckness" about it. cool
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Reply #4 posted 06/23/09 2:31pm

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Timmy84 said:

shorttrini said:

Kinda has the "Superstitious", Stevie vibe to it....I likes!!


It does, I just love her "dontgiveafuckness" about it. cool



I like that about it also. I have never heard this before!!
"Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth"
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Reply #5 posted 06/23/09 2:36pm

Timmy84

shorttrini said:

Timmy84 said:



It does, I just love her "dontgiveafuckness" about it. cool



I like that about it also. I have never heard this before!!


You should hear her joints "Anti Love Song" and "Nasty Gal". I swear she was Rick James before Rick even knew what the fuck he WAS musically. I'm listening to her debut album from '73 right now.
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Reply #6 posted 06/23/09 2:53pm

Timmy84

This was supposedly about Jimi:

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Reply #7 posted 06/23/09 2:53pm

Anxiety

bow

i love love love betty love
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Reply #8 posted 06/23/09 2:55pm

Timmy84

Anxiety said:

bow

i love love love betty love


Me too, you, DirtyChris (and some other folks I forget) turned me on to her. cool
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Reply #9 posted 06/23/09 6:05pm

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Love this cut... her growling voice is fierce cool
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Reply #10 posted 06/24/09 2:24am

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Timmy84 said:

This was supposedly about Jimi:


It WAS about Jimi. wink Don't worry about folks posting..I did a few threads on her a few years back. I have all of her shit. Vastly and criminally underrated. Queen of Ms. Funk/Rock, no doubt.
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Reply #11 posted 06/24/09 5:02am

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blackguitaristz said:

Timmy84 said:

This was supposedly about Jimi:


It WAS about Jimi. wink Don't worry about folks posting..I did a few threads on her a few years back. I have all of her shit. Vastly and criminally underrated. Queen of Ms. Funk/Rock, no doubt.


Word! nod
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Reply #12 posted 06/24/09 7:49am

Anxiety

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Timmy84 said:

This was supposedly about Jimi:


It WAS about Jimi. wink Don't worry about folks posting..I did a few threads on her a few years back. I have all of her shit. Vastly and criminally underrated. Queen of Ms. Funk/Rock, no doubt.


she has denied in interviews that it's about jimi, but she did some fancy footwork in her denials which made it seem even more obvious...it's about jimi. lol
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Reply #13 posted 06/24/09 10:52am

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Damn she's freaky as hell! Betty's got a Tina Turner feel to her. Tina was another one who had a "I don't give a fuck" attitude as well. wink
The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. wildsign
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Reply #14 posted 06/24/09 10:59am

Anxiety

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Damn she's freaky as hell! Betty's got a Tina Turner feel to her. Tina was another one who had a "I don't give a fuck" attitude as well. wink


betty's music has it all - funk, soul, hard rock, glam...she was the real deal. nod
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Reply #15 posted 06/24/09 11:18am

Timmy84

Anxiety said:

Chic35 said:

Damn she's freaky as hell! Betty's got a Tina Turner feel to her. Tina was another one who had a "I don't give a fuck" attitude as well. wink


betty's music has it all - funk, soul, hard rock, glam...she was the real deal. nod


For real, plus she wrote her own shit. nod
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Reply #16 posted 06/24/09 11:42am

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Timmy84 said:

I swear she was Rick James before Rick even knew what the fuck he WAS musically.

A similar observation from someone who sometimes speaks in pyscho-spiritual gobble-de-gook (I know he means well) a few cogent comments from Carlos Santana.

“She was the first Madonna, but Madonna is more like Marie Osmond compared to Betty Davis.
Betty was a real ferocious Black Panther woman. You couldn’t tame Betty Davis.”

...They Say I'm Different (liner notes)


One of Betty’s close friends, Devon Wilson, was dating Jimi Hendrix, and it is believed that Hendrix’s jazz-rock fusions opened Miles’ eyes to new musical styles. Hence, the album Bitches Brew is unofficially dedicated to Betty and her “cosmic ladies” friends.

Carlos Santana, in his essay “Remembering Miles,” says, “You could see how these ladies were affecting Miles. They changed the way he dressed, the places he went, and the music he listened to. … I have always thought that Bitches Brew was, in its own way, a tribute to Miles’ language to those women who opened his eyes to a whole new world, and who encouraged and prodded him to take that next step.” Miles may have already been a living legend by the late ’60s, but he knew that Betty was no starry-eyed groupie.

...https://venuszine.com/art...etty_davis

I tend to lean toward her first album and this particular track...



...Game Is My Middle Name.

Her performance and the groove is just so right.
I'm sure the players didn't hurt (Larry Graham, Neal Schon, Gregg Errico, Doug Rauch, etc)


tA

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Reply #17 posted 06/24/09 11:45am

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I'm sure the players didn't hurt (...Neal Schon...)

I guess I shouldn't be too shocked, but I didn't realize he did session work.
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Reply #18 posted 06/24/09 12:04pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

I swear she was Rick James before Rick even knew what the fuck he WAS musically.

A similar observation from someone who sometimes speaks in pyscho-spiritual gobble-de-gook (I know he means well) a few cogent comments from Carlos Santana.

“She was the first Madonna, but Madonna is more like Marie Osmond compared to Betty Davis.
Betty was a real ferocious Black Panther woman. You couldn’t tame Betty Davis.”

...They Say I'm Different (liner notes)


One of Betty’s close friends, Devon Wilson, was dating Jimi Hendrix, and it is believed that Hendrix’s jazz-rock fusions opened Miles’ eyes to new musical styles. Hence, the album Bitches Brew is unofficially dedicated to Betty and her “cosmic ladies” friends.

Carlos Santana, in his essay “Remembering Miles,” says, “You could see how these ladies were affecting Miles. They changed the way he dressed, the places he went, and the music he listened to. … I have always thought that Bitches Brew was, in its own way, a tribute to Miles’ language to those women who opened his eyes to a whole new world, and who encouraged and prodded him to take that next step.” Miles may have already been a living legend by the late ’60s, but he knew that Betty was no starry-eyed groupie.

...https://venuszine.com/art...etty_davis

I tend to lean toward her first album and this particular track...



...Game Is My Middle Name.

Her performance and the groove is just so right.
I'm sure the players didn't hurt (Larry Graham, Neal Schon, Gregg Errico, Doug Rauch, etc)


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431


That debut is something HEAVY! Gregg Errico and Larry Graham were all on that album. nod
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Reply #19 posted 06/24/09 12:12pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

theAudience said:

I'm sure the players didn't hurt (...Neal Schon...)

I guess I shouldn't be too shocked, but I didn't realize he did session work.

He done quite few things outside of Santana/Journey.
Even playing on Michael Bolton's (one of the singers hipsters-love-to-hate) Dock of the Bay track.

Supposedly there is/was a band, Black Soup Cracker with him, Rosie Gaines & Michael Bland.


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Reply #20 posted 06/24/09 12:18pm

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I'd light a tree and bump this music!
A stupid man’s report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconciously translates what he hears into something he can understand.
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Reply #21 posted 06/24/09 4:25pm

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theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

I swear she was Rick James before Rick even knew what the fuck he WAS musically.

A similar observation from someone who sometimes speaks in pyscho-spiritual gobble-de-gook (I know he means well) a few cogent comments from Carlos Santana.

“She was the first Madonna, but Madonna is more like Marie Osmond compared to Betty Davis.
Betty was a real ferocious Black Panther woman. You couldn’t tame Betty Davis.”

...They Say I'm Different (liner notes)


One of Betty’s close friends, Devon Wilson, was dating Jimi Hendrix, and it is believed that Hendrix’s jazz-rock fusions opened Miles’ eyes to new musical styles. Hence, the album Bitches Brew is unofficially dedicated to Betty and her “cosmic ladies” friends.

Carlos Santana, in his essay “Remembering Miles,” says, “You could see how these ladies were affecting Miles. They changed the way he dressed, the places he went, and the music he listened to. … I have always thought that Bitches Brew was, in its own way, a tribute to Miles’ language to those women who opened his eyes to a whole new world, and who encouraged and prodded him to take that next step.” Miles may have already been a living legend by the late ’60s, but he knew that Betty was no starry-eyed groupie.

...https://venuszine.com/art...etty_davis

I tend to lean toward her first album and this particular track...



...Game Is My Middle Name.

Her performance and the groove is just so right.
I'm sure the players didn't hurt (Larry Graham, Neal Schon, Gregg Errico, Doug Rauch, etc)


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

http://www.soundclick.com...dID=182431

To me, Miles's "Bitches Brew" & "Agharta" simply would have NOT existed in THAT form if it wasn't for Hendrix. Devon was no joke. Actually being the inspiration of a Hendrix song "Dolly Dagger". A dig at her and Mick Jagger since she (for the lack of a better word) "dated" both Hendrix and Mick. And no, having one of my all time fave bassists (Graham) and one of my all time fave guitarists (Schon) on that album CERTAINLY doesn't hurt anybody.
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Reply #22 posted 06/24/09 5:29pm

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Timmy84 said:

That debut is something HEAVY! Gregg Errico and Larry Graham were all on that album. nod

Yeah, just you're average-everyday rhythm section. smile


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Reply #23 posted 06/24/09 5:40pm

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To me, Miles's "Bitches Brew" & "Agharta" simply would have NOT existed in THAT form if it wasn't for Hendrix. Devon was no joke.

If things were a bit different Miles & Jimi could've/should've played together.

I get the impression that Devon, among other things, was also functioning as Jimi's "anchor to Blackness".


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Reply #24 posted 06/24/09 5:41pm

Anxiety

theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

That debut is something HEAVY! Gregg Errico and Larry Graham were all on that album. nod

Yeah, just you're average-everyday rhythm section. smile


tA

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let's not forget that none other than the fabulous SYLVESTER was among the backing vocalists on that first album. i can NOT imagine what it possibly could have been like to be in the same room with sylvester and betty davis. lol
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Reply #25 posted 06/24/09 5:46pm

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Anxiety said:

let's not forget that none other than the fabulous SYLVESTER was among the backing vocalists on that first album. i can NOT imagine what it possibly could have been like to be in the same room with sylvester and betty davis. lol

Throw in a couple of Pointer Sisters and you've got some serious party potential. biggrin


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Reply #26 posted 06/24/09 5:54pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Anxiety said:

let's not forget that none other than the fabulous SYLVESTER was among the backing vocalists on that first album. i can NOT imagine what it possibly could have been like to be in the same room with sylvester and betty davis. lol

Throw in a couple of Pointer Sisters and you've got some serious party potential. biggrin


tA

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Which ones? I'm assuming JUNE was one of them. Wasn't the Pointers on They Say I'm Different?
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Reply #27 posted 06/24/09 6:04pm

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Timmy84 said:

Which ones? I'm assuming JUNE was one of them. Wasn't the Pointers on They Say I'm Different?

I'll have to check the liner notes when I get home but I believe a couple of them were credited individually on first album.
Not sure about They Say I'm Different.


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Reply #28 posted 06/24/09 6:20pm

Timmy84

theAudience said:

Timmy84 said:

Which ones? I'm assuming JUNE was one of them. Wasn't the Pointers on They Say I'm Different?

I'll have to check the liner notes when I get home but I believe a couple of them were credited individually on first album.
Not sure about They Say I'm Different.


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I ask because it sounds like June on "Get In There" with Betty and Sylvester...
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Reply #29 posted 06/24/09 6:39pm

Anxiety

Timmy84 said:

theAudience said:


I'll have to check the liner notes when I get home but I believe a couple of them were credited individually on first album.
Not sure about They Say I'm Different.


tA

peace Tribal Disorder

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I ask because it sounds like June on "Get In There" with Betty and Sylvester...


i gotta have my liner notes in front of me as well, but i think you're probably right...
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