SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Her daddy, I still don't know what it means for the life of me though lol...

Harlepolis said:

Mariah was always writing her lyric and doing her vocal arrangements, no doubt. But at least Tommy helped prevent Mariah from dressing AND acting like a "hoochie mama" when she allow him to.

Harlepolis said:

I don't know why he called her that either. But I kept hearing nippy was another word for cold winter or something, maybe he saw Whitney freezing in the coat and just called her "Nippy" and the name stuck.

"That's my daddy's nickname for me, there's only one Nippy, queen of the night I am, I'm NIPPY!"

TonyVanDam said:

Tony, just be real with a dame here

Did you listen to the stuff that she did post-Tommy with an open mind and NONE of them appealed to you?

I know the bitch has her hands full of chickenheadery, I'm not naive lol but there're saving grace moments here & there that make me tolerate the other bullshit that she feed us.

Harlepolis said:

I bet you even like the Mariah/Snoop Dogg video. In fairness, they should do a movie together:

Harlepolis said:

"Bliss" was her best post-Tommy moment IMHO, lol. I like "Mine Again" too. I just hope she snaps out of the phase she's in though, it's not doing her career good in the long run IMHO.

TonyVanDam said:

Nah that song I could've done without,,,along with the Joe/98 Degree song.

But the album is fairly cool. Bliss, Mariah's Theme, Heartbreaker and the most personal, Petals.

Harlepolis said:

he was probably the first to see her alcohol issues comin on

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

She even named her production company Nippy Inc or some shit.

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

I doubt it, she took "Nippy" as a sign of endearment as SCNDLS said.

Timmy84 said:

My dad called me crackhead from 3 years old. I love it

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Timmy84 said:

Hey endearment

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Yeah I know.

Harlepolis said:

The One was good for the bedroom. But that was about it for me.

Heartbreaker was a hit for the moment in 1999 (more credit to the Stacey Lattisaw sample that anything else). But I stop listening to it after my musical taste matured to the point that I can no longer lower my music listening standards.

I think your question is contingent on how Mimi defines "back to basics". If it's back to earlier this decade, then I don't have much high hopes for this album. If it means back to the height of her 1990's period, then it seems a lot more promising.

Harlepolis said:

Actually, when she went towards a more hip-hop direction in 1995, it was bold, it was daring, and it was completely fresh for a pop artist to do that at that time. Not only did she retain her true fans, but she gained a whole lot of street cred in the process. Her problem is that she hasn't really advanced too much musically since then. She's had some good moments, and the Mimi album was great, but she has relied on this "hot sound of the moment" as a crutch. She's already established herself as a music icon, and tons of pop singers look up to her for inspiration, so I don't understand why she's attempting to copy these up-and-coming artists on her latest albums.

728huey said:

Age, the music industry and the failure no one WILL talk ABOUT her ever again, lol

Timmy84 said:

She's only 40!

SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said:

Jamie Foxx is 42 and he's doing the "bump & grind" like nobody's business,,,and I don't see anybody saying a damn.

Lets not even 4get R.Kelly

HELL, can we talk about Madonna singing at 51 and still dropping it like its hot? The WHOLE big deal about "age" is so passe.

TonyVanDam said:

zohan does not approve

Harlepolis said:

I'm saying she's YOUNG! I'm 39 and 40 IS the new 20

Harlepolis said:

40 yo doing kids music.

That's what's so twisted about it.

She can still get the kids with other music that people claim "don't cater to the kids", lol.

But I keep thinking about what these artists are thinking and maybe that's in THEIR mind.

Harlepolis said:

1. Jamie Foxx is a comedian first, actor second, & recording artist third. Even if his music sucks, Jamie can still make jokes about the world today.

2. R.Kelly is only in it for the underage girls. And I'm dead surprise that he still have a music career.

3. Madonna is a R&R Hall of Famer. She really has nothing else to prove at this stage of her career.

The big deal about ageism will be "passe" only if Katy Perry, & Soulja Boy can still make music pass age 30. And for the time being, I have my doubt.
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Timmy84 said:

Somehow I get the feeling that Cyndi Lauper is THE only old-school artist that can act her age and not even bother making kids music. Even Prince needed more time to grow the hell up.

TonyVanDam said:

Right. Plus Cyndi is making music she WANTS to make that does NOT include a "contemporary mainstream act". Prince took a while to get on that ball even if I'm not at all interested now. More power to 'em tho.

Timmy84 said:

I don't think she is lazy, i think she is afraid, mariah is all about the numbers and if that means making Crap music that is considered whats in, then she will do it, But it really takes away from her. Her voice will always be one of the best in music, but her songs are NOT so much.

I feel she is so much better then the songs she has been releasing for the past couple of years.

TonyVanDam said:

Mariah has substance which will carry her as long as she maintains it - CoonBoy doesn't.

I wasn't talking about Jamie's acting career, thats beside the point. I'm talking about the fact that he's doing "bump & grind" shit and folks want to get on Mariah's supposed "old senile" ass instead

And believe me, Robert Kelly still enjoys a VERY fruitful career despite my hope for his fall. As for Madonna, I brought her up so ya'll could relax and stop worrying about the "age" factor.

Harlepolis said:

Its her most dated sounding album.

It had it's high ups like Heartbreaker, Petals, Bliss and Cant Take That Away and the dance remix of Hearbreaker / If U Should Ever be Lonely...and way downs like Did I Do That (dated), syrupy Thank God I Found U, How Much (dated), X Girlfriend (dated), Make It Last Forever (lame).

However she promoted the heck out of that album..she had lots of videos and tv promo for it....I guess that was part of the time when she started going into meltdown and decided to get another contract.

I still say it's tough because she, Janet and a few others may be older than the kids but people today are more youthful, healthier and looking good. They don't feel like 39 and up.

They act youthful because they feel youthful and more often than not hang with and date people who are younger than they are. You just don’t turn 40 pull out a stool and start singing ballads. They’re still in the clubs or going to parties, having fun and living life. We make such a big deal about age when it really is just a number.

I would like her to do more lyrically mature music but I don’t want her to go all AC on me either. The reality is she probably won’t any time soon. Especially if she is blessed to many more years ahead of her she can do all that when she’s in her 50s.

Vanessa Williams while a different kind of artist went AC and never looked back and I still pine for her Work to Do days.

In a word.....no.