NaughtyKitty said:

I was wondering how long it was going to take before they called him on that!

bboy87 said:

You, know all I'm thinking of is "The Ho is Mine" by Rin and Tin the Hip Hop Dalmations from Brown Sugar.

bboy87 said:

SCNDLS said:

SCNDLS said:

i didn't know he used to be with GLAAD. this has gone from plain ol' "wtf" to "honeychile, NO" status.

BSK3478 said:

GLAAD should be ashamed of themselves for being affiliated with this fool. But I know I'm gaining pounds with each new development cuz this is just too delicious for words.

Seems like Perez just doesn't get it. He's gonna ride that I was non-violent wagon until the wheels fall off. It's GLAAD not Veterans for Peace.
[Edited 6/23/09 10:35am]

SCNDLS said:

i ain't even got enough room for seconds, thirds or fourths...i'm finna explode...

Just pace yourself and don't give in to the itis.

SCNDLS said:

i'm already about t

BSK3478 said:

I'm hoping that this ordeal will cause this loser to be banned from the media for life-his crappy pathetic blog shut down, and the next time I see him he'll be at Wal-Mart--rounding up all the shopping carts left out in the parking lot

NaughtyKitty said:

And it comes out that he's not really gay! Oh that would so make my day because I swear I think it's all an act!

bboy87 said:

I'm glad the nonsense of someone's clothes in comparison to violence was realized on your part. I wouldn't give a shit if he wore a toga and heels, if a MFer hit me for ANY reason....I'd unleash hell.

ernestsewell said:

but didn't you say violence wasn't the answer?


anyway, celebrities respond

bboy87 said:

He and John Mayer actually had a big conversation on Twitter about it. However, Kate Dailey of Newsweek covered that conversation and the situation in general. She summed it all up perfectly.

I'll post it in a new reply.

Here's the article:
http://blog.newsweek.com/...aming.aspx

Posted Tuesday, June 23, 2009 10:01 AM
John Mayer, Perez Hilton, and the Politics of Victim Blaming
Kate Dailey

Yesterday, Perez Hilton got punched in the face. This lead to karma jokes, and "I've been wanting to punch him in the face for years" jokes, and all sorts of tacky, tasteless comments that make light of the fact that someone was the victim of violence. Yes, Perez is a pain; a pain who ridicules both gay rights activists and gay rights critics when not drawing crude genitalia on paparazzi photos. Did he deserve a beating? No: no one does. And yet that fact gets obscured when the victim of said beating is a churlish gadfly.

Some background: gossip blogger Hilton (nee Mario Lavandeira) is alleging that the manager of the Black Eyed Peas, Liborio Molina, assaulted Hilton backstage at the MuchMusic Video awards in Toronto. (Molina has since turned himself in to police). This came after a heated discussion wherein Will.I.Am asked Perez to lay off the band on Perez's site, and Perez responded by calling Will.I.Am a "f-----." (This is not high level diplomacy, here, people.) Perez called the cops after the attack, then went right to Twitter, asking his fans to do the same. That move, along with the fact that Perez is something of a media punch line while still being an incredibly important (and well-paid) media creator, has lead to lots of eye rolls and rationalizations and aforementioned jokes.

The weirdest of all this victim-blaming comes from musician John Mayer, who has also taken to Twitter to express his disgust with Hilton's handling of the situation. "P!nk kneed me in the nuts outside Chateau Marmont. I was pissing blood for days. Did I make a scene?" he asks in one post. Later, he and Hilton got into a rapid back and forth Twitter conversation (twonversation?), with Mayer insisting that the assault was the direct result of Hilton's abrasive personality. "I'd like to train you in Krav Maga," tweets Mayer. "Then you'll have the situational awareness not to get in someone's face." These types of comments continue, each insisting that Perez could have prevented the attack had he not been so darned annoying. The worst part is that Mayer's little sermons comes from this weird, faux-concerned place of condescending kindness. "From the heart, what you experienced these last 24 hrs is a profound lack of control. You can't blog the world, my friend," writes Mayer. (Oh, it's from the heart? To a friend? That totally makes up for you excusing the assailant. Thanks, pal!)

Meanwhile, Hilton is responding with a maturity and restraint absent from his earlier...life's work, really. Aside from repeatedly asking Mayer to take the conversation to a more private venue (which...horse is kind of out of the barn there, Mario), he quite reasonably argued that, "Karma would be me losing my site and going bankrupt or what have u...Karma is not getting punched in the face."

This whole discussion is just a 21st century version of what women and assault victims have been hearing for years. The logic that it falls on the victim to prevent irrational actions of the assailant is really outdated and really, really dangerous. Many victims of violence—and especially domestic violence—will tell you that the slaps, punches, and shoves perpetrated upon them didn't happen when they were just sitting their minding their own business. It came during some sort of disagreement. Maybe she snapped at him out of frustration. Maybe she hit on a particularly sore subject. These are all things that happen during the course of an argument—we're never at our best when tempers are inflamed. But that doesn't make it right, ever, to take the fight from cutting remarks to physical violence.

We all should try to be better people: less annoying or abrasive, less prone to reaching for the cheap (verbal) shot, more sensitive to those around us. But it's not our responsibility to ensure that the person we're arguing with doesn't cross the line from nasty name calling to physical violence. This tired line of thinking keeps women with abusers (because if she just avoided certain subjects...), makes it ok to beat up gay men who have the temerity to walk down a crowded street in the wrong side of town (because really, what did he expect?) and subtly endorses sociopaths who think it's their life's work to beat some sense into people who don't fit a cultural norm. It's Rhianna, it's Matthew Sheppard, it's Angie Zapata. It's wrong.

This is something we all know. Most of us claim to be all about non-violence and peaceful solutions and treating each other with kindness. The actual practice of supporting the victim, however, is a lot harder when the victim is kind of a douche. That, however, is when it's most important: you can't demand that people earn basic human rights with kindness points.

So ersatz sensitive guy John Mayer is trotting out tired old tropes that basically boil down to "what were you expecting in a skirt that short," Perez Hilton is responding with a level maturity that makes it feel like opposite day, and all this is happening on Twitter. Tawdry, silly, and totally unimportant, especially when people are dying in Iran over the fight for democracy. Still, the point remains: it's never ok to hit someone in anger. Even Perez Hilton.

Update: The women at Jezebel, among others, say I'm brushing off Perez's misogyny and use of homophobic slurs. Let me state here what I should have said more clearly in the first place: Perez's behavior was out of bounds, and there should be consequences. But that reckoning can't be done at the business end of someone's fist. In fact, the second you rough someone up, it becomes much harder to take that someone to task for their abhorrent behavior.

If John Mayer wanted to challenge Hilton on his use of slurs, we'd be having a different conversation. But Mayer didn't write that he wanted to train Hilton in a martial art called "Never Call A Black Dude a F----- Jitsu" to make the point that Perez's language was hurtful and inappropriate. He did it to imply that if you call a "black dude" something gay, you're going to get punched, and that Hilton should have known better.

There's a LOT to say about Hilton's use of language and the impact of his words. Jezebel did a great job starting that conversation, and it's an important one. I chose to focus on Mayer's response, and the inherent dangers of victim-blaming—even, as I said, when that victim is kind of a tool.

ernestsewell said:

I know, I read the convo 10 minutes ago

john mayer's tweets =

and urmmmm....



karma sometimes comes in pieces. he finna jinx himself.

SCNDLS said:

luv it, luv it, luv it

BSK3478 said:

Thank you. Karma doesn't work in some sort of guideline. You call somebody a f*ggot and they simply call you a f*ggot back and that's karma. Karma comes in many shapes, forms and measures. A punch in the grill is probably just a percentage of what he has waiting in the wings, most of which we'll probably never know about.

For every action there's a reaction. Call somebody out there name, you might get punched in the face.
[Edited 6/23/09 14:21pm]

bboy87 said:

NaughtyKitty said:

heaven forbid he take responsibility for ANYTHING he does when he can keep on playing that raggedy-ass victim card

purplemansionFL said:

@ the fact that you didn't read the whole story.

None of the members of the BEPs attack Mario (Perez Hiltion). It was their manager & their fans that whipped Mario's candyass.

Anxiety said:

You're just saying that because you don't like Fergie.....oops, I mean Fugly.

TonyVanDam said:

that would be like saying i'm a fan of disney but i can't stand mickey mouse. on the contrary, i am a WHOLE PACKAGE black eyed peas hater.

vainandy said:

Exactly!

And remember, it was the BEPs' manager & die-hard BEPs fans in the club that took Mario out, NOT BEPs themselves. If Mario had his own bodyguards and/or entourage, this incident wouldn't have happen to him that easily.

I sincerely hope this spells the end of his dream run "career".

purplesweat said:

i doubt that. he's in a role where there's no such thing as bad publicity. he'll work this for all it's worth while he's crying all the way to the bank.

Anxiety said:

Yeah, but it's unusual to see this many people offering absolutely no sympathy whatsoever, particularly celebs who usually keep him on side for good publicity.

I think if he hadn't said "faggot" he might've garnered some sympathy.

bboy87 said:

Forget about will.i.am or his manager.



Had Mario said Taboo^ attack him, then I might have a better chance of believing the perfect lie. THIS man looks like he could bitch-slap someone!