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Reply #30 posted 06/22/09 10:40am

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I watched the show just for her love and then I watched the repeat after to watch her again. clapping
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Reply #31 posted 06/22/09 10:43am

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Ok, she perfectly memorized a rehearsed dance routine while not forgetting her lyrics...
Ok, I guess she was actually "killing it"
She was dead on.

She's a great performer with talent.

What else has she done?
Anything groundbreaking musically?
Polished pop performances is what's popular today, and if you're into that, cool.
Just remember what it is, and don't call her THE NEXT BIG THING or anything like that. You think she would get the same attention if she was fat and from India?
When she performs under water and dances just as fast without oxygen for the whole 7 minutes with her eyes closed and clipping her toe nails at the same time while praying to God her carreer will last another album.
Now THATS some shit...

Of course.... Her next album will probably be decent (i mean for real) Because she has to prove herself. And for that reason it will flop. She will probably sound like sheryl crow and will perform with a giant triangle naked on a chair while you ex gaga fans just wanna dance, dance, just duh duh duh dance...
And all people into lady gaga now will be into katy perry because katy's contract states she has to continue performing the commercial polished pop tunes like the tpain remix of her next track called "i drank camel piss and i liked it" featuring neyo, akon and chris brown

You go katy p.


I have no real idea of what U just said but it was as funny as 4k and I liked it. smile
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Reply #32 posted 06/22/09 10:45am

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mistatee said:

Ok, she perfectly memorized a rehearsed dance routine while not forgetting her lyrics...
Ok, I guess she was actually "killing it"
She was dead on.

She's a great performer with talent.

What else has she done?
Anything groundbreaking musically?
Polished pop performances is what's popular today, and if you're into that, cool.
Just remember what it is, and don't call her THE NEXT BIG THING or anything like that. You think she would get the same attention if she was fat and from India?
When she performs under water and dances just as fast without oxygen for the whole 7 minutes with her eyes closed and clipping her toe nails at the same time while praying to God her carreer will last another album.
Now THATS some shit...

Of course.... Her next album will probably be decent (i mean for real) Because she has to prove herself. And for that reason it will flop. She will probably sound like sheryl crow and will perform with a giant triangle naked on a chair while you ex gaga fans just wanna dance, dance, just duh duh duh dance...
And all people into lady gaga now will be into katy perry because katy's contract states she has to continue performing the commercial polished pop tunes like the tpain remix of her next track called "i drank camel piss and i liked it" featuring neyo, akon and chris brown

You go katy p.




What are you going on about really? I'm sorry, but a lot of your post doesn't even make sense. If you're going to diss Gaga, at least try to come up with some valid reasons why you don't like her or think she's untalented. Why does she have to do anything groundbreaking musically anyway? She is a pop star-a pop star that can sing, writes her songs and plays instruments which is not so easy to find so I think it's kind of silly to say she's talentless. She does have talent. Lady Gaga is popular right now because she makes catchy music and is an exciting performer. She's entertaining, well to me anyway lol. I get it if Lady Gaga is not everyone's cup of tea though, but it just seems to me like you're reaching with these reasons you're coming up with for disliking her. You don't seem to have good reasons for disliking her.
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Reply #33 posted 06/22/09 10:47am

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lol The org is really cynical sometimes.

There hasn't been a pop star with such commanding stage presence in a long while. Let alone one that actually sings live. Yes, I hope she'll be around for some time.

Some orgers get so nostalgiac about artists like Madonna or Janet or Michael and then shit all over a new artist who comes out of nowhere and delivers on standards that were set back in the day when the bar was high for most artists.

The reality is that GaGa is perfectly capable of various performance styles, including solo acoustic. But she can also put on a spectacle.

There's about as much reason to criticize this performance style (which works perfectly for the venue) just because Michael and Madonna were pioneering it 20 years ago as there is to criticize Sheryl Crow for simply playing a guitar and singing because Paul Simon was doing it 40 years ago.




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Reply #34 posted 06/22/09 10:54am

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Now, do the haters still think she's talentless? !

Yes.....more that ever.

Really? I think she has talent. Although, I think it's more about the show for her and not so much the music.

I just found out that Karlin from Soulshock and Karlin fame was the executive producer on this album. I found that very interesting.
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Reply #35 posted 06/22/09 10:57am

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It's just the same teenage pop thing Britney spears etc. have been doing for years. So what she's writing her own songs doesn't stop them from being shit.
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Reply #36 posted 06/22/09 11:00am

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I'm not denying gaga has talent,
And a lot of it.

Anyway, I never said she's not talented.
And i'm not dissing her.
Just making fun of her fans.
I'm sorry for that.

A lot of gaga fans compare her to artist waaay out of her league.
Not right.


Sorry if i hurt your and gaga's feelings.

it's gonna be ok, da da doo doo
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Reply #37 posted 06/22/09 11:12am

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Another tired argument I hear from Gaga haters is the old "She's not doing anything new/that hasnt been done before" line. My response: SO WHAT? Since when is it an artist's requirement to come up with something totally new and groundbreaking to at least get some credit that they're really good? I got news for folks who are looking for artists to do something totally new that hasnt been done before: it aint gonna happen wink Or at least there's a very good chance it wont happen because everything that has been done that's broke new ground or set a new standard music-wise has already been done. Trailblazers like Madonna, Prince, Michael Jackson, Elvis, The Beatles, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Tina Turner, Whitney Houston, Barbara Streisand, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, etc. and so on have already done everything, broke the ground and paved the way for the artists and performers out there today. I really dont know what totally new thing that hasnt been done before can be done at this point.

And besides, even if someone did come up with something totally new and different that hadnt been done before I'm sure some of the people here would still find a way to criticize and hate it rolleyes
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Reply #38 posted 06/22/09 11:21am

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NaughtyKitty said:

Another tired argument I hear from Gaga haters is the old "She's not doing anything new/that hasnt been done before" line. My response: SO WHAT? Since when is it an artist's requirement to come up with something totally new and groundbreaking to at least get some credit that they're really good? I got news for folks who are looking for artists to do something totally new that hasnt been done before: it aint gonna happen wink Or at least there's a very good chance it wont happen because everything that has been done that's broke new ground or set a new standard music-wise has already been done. Trailblazers like Madonna, Prince, Michael Jackson, Elvis, The Beatles, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Tina Turner, Whitney Houston, Barbara Streisand, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, etc. and so on have already done everything, broke the ground and paved the way for the artists and performers out there today. I really dont know what totally new thing that hasnt been done before can be done at this point.

And besides, even if someone did come up with something totally new and different that hadnt been done before I'm sure some of the people here would still find a way to criticize and hate it rolleyes
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OK, so if I go off and do a quick sketch of the Mona Lisa, U'd buy it? Good 2 know. wink
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Reply #39 posted 06/22/09 11:37am

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comegetwild said:

NaughtyKitty said:

Another tired argument I hear from Gaga haters is the old "She's not doing anything new/that hasnt been done before" line. My response: SO WHAT? Since when is it an artist's requirement to come up with something totally new and groundbreaking to at least get some credit that they're really good? I got news for folks who are looking for artists to do something totally new that hasnt been done before: it aint gonna happen wink Or at least there's a very good chance it wont happen because everything that has been done that's broke new ground or set a new standard music-wise has already been done. Trailblazers like Madonna, Prince, Michael Jackson, Elvis, The Beatles, James Brown, Jimi Hendrix, Tina Turner, Whitney Houston, Barbara Streisand, Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, etc. and so on have already done everything, broke the ground and paved the way for the artists and performers out there today. I really dont know what totally new thing that hasnt been done before can be done at this point.

And besides, even if someone did come up with something totally new and different that hadnt been done before I'm sure some of the people here would still find a way to criticize and hate it rolleyes
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OK, so if I go off and do a quick sketch of the Mona Lisa, U'd buy it? Good 2 know. wink

No, but then again I wouldnt spend my money on the original either so....your point is?
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Reply #40 posted 06/22/09 12:16pm

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Trust me, there will be plenty more groundbreaking artists.
Just because you can't think of what will be the next groundbreaking thing to do,
doesn't mean it won't happen.
Not all groundbreaking stuff makes it to the charts.

Too bad people mix up groundbreaking and record breaking.

gaga is a product, easy to chew, easy to swallow
accept it.

No comparing to great artists please.
At least not yet
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Reply #41 posted 06/22/09 12:24pm

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NaughtyKitty said:

comegetwild said:



OK, so if I go off and do a quick sketch of the Mona Lisa, U'd buy it? Good 2 know. wink

No, but then again I wouldnt spend my money on the original either so....your point is?



The point is why would U accept a cheap imitation of someone else's art?
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Reply #42 posted 06/22/09 12:44pm

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comegetwild said:

NaughtyKitty said:


No, but then again I wouldnt spend my money on the original either so....your point is?



The point is why would U accept a cheap imitation of someone else's art?

Ok, but I dont think Gaga is a cheap imitation of someone else's art. Yes she's obviously been inspired by other great artists, but she's doing her own thing IMHO. I can accept that she may not be everyones cup of tea, that's fine. What I have a hard time accepting is people writing her off as some no-talent bimbo who's a part of some "media marketing machine" or whatever some have called it. She's got alot more going for her than the Britney's, Miley's, Pussycat Dolls, Little Wayne's and Flo Rida's out there today. She's got a great voice and can sing live, writes her own music, is a very interesting stage performer. She's very creative as well. Oh well, people were saying the same kinds of things when Madonna first came on the scene as well, and we see how well she did smile
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Reply #43 posted 06/22/09 12:46pm

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mistatee said:

Trust me, there will be plenty more groundbreaking artists.
Just because you can't think of what will be the next groundbreaking thing to do,
doesn't mean it won't happen.
Not all groundbreaking stuff makes it to the charts.

Too bad people mix up groundbreaking and record breaking.

gaga is a product, easy to chew, easy to swallow
accept it.

No comparing to great artists please.
At least not yet

Well that's your opinion but I totally disagree.
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Reply #44 posted 06/22/09 1:26pm

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Reply #45 posted 06/22/09 1:35pm

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awesome. lol

i see a lot of socrates level philosophizing up in this bitch. smile

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Reply #46 posted 06/22/09 2:22pm

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great performance.
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Reply #47 posted 06/22/09 4:03pm

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Ok I just watched it, it WAS a great performance! Yeah it was over the top--but that's the way it should be done! Make it memorable biggrin She's definitely one to watch. Oh yeah and people who say she cant sing must not know what real singing is cuz she most definitely can sing. I dont care what anyone else says, she's a true artist! heart
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Reply #48 posted 06/23/09 2:38am

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comegetwild said:

NaughtyKitty said:


I wont trust you on anything since your taste in music is obviously lacking kay? Kay. smile I stand by my comment that your post is lame--anyone who wastes their energy bashing a website because some of the members like an artist that they dont equals LAME!


I'm outta here, I refuse 2 have a battle of musical tastes with unarmed people. smile

Enjoy U're meal. wink


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Reply #49 posted 06/23/09 8:20am

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To me Lady Gaga is imitating noone . Just the opposite. If you are familar with her body of work and performances, she is as unique as they come. The freshest thing to stir up the music scene in ages.

Maybe my musical tastes arent sophisticated enough for some around here. Who cares. She kicks my ass and i love it.
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Reply #50 posted 06/23/09 8:25am

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newpower99 said:

To me Lady Gaga is imitating noone . Just the opposite. If you are familar with her body of work and performances, she is as unique as they come. The freshest thing to stir up the music scene in ages.

Maybe my musical tastes arent sophisticated enough for some around here. Who cares. She kicks my ass and i love it.

How many albums does she have? I've only seen "The Fame".
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Reply #51 posted 06/23/09 8:52am

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newpower99 said:

To me Lady Gaga is imitating noone . Just the opposite. If you are familar with her body of work and performances, she is as unique as they come. The freshest thing to stir up the music scene in ages.

Maybe my musical tastes arent sophisticated enough for some around here. Who cares. She kicks my ass and i love it.


Go sit in the corner and think about what U just said. disbelief
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Reply #52 posted 06/23/09 11:12am

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daPrettyman said:

newpower99 said:

To me Lady Gaga is imitating noone . Just the opposite. If you are familar with her body of work and performances, she is as unique as they come. The freshest thing to stir up the music scene in ages.

Maybe my musical tastes arent sophisticated enough for some around here. Who cares. She kicks my ass and i love it.

How many albums does she have? I've only seen "The Fame".


that's her only official so far but she has TONS of songs out there
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Reply #53 posted 06/23/09 11:13am

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comegetwild said:

newpower99 said:

To me Lady Gaga is imitating noone . Just the opposite. If you are familar with her body of work and performances, she is as unique as they come. The freshest thing to stir up the music scene in ages.

Maybe my musical tastes arent sophisticated enough for some around here. Who cares. She kicks my ass and i love it.


Go sit in the corner and think about what U just said. disbelief


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Reply #54 posted 06/23/09 11:44am

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I think Lady Gaga haters are really nothing more than closeted Gaga fans, but because they're so insanely jealous of her immense creativity and talent they cant bring themselves to admit that they love her and wish they were more like her razz giggle
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Reply #55 posted 06/23/09 11:48am

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NaughtyKitty said:

I think Lady Gaga haters are really nothing more than closeted Gaga fans, but because they're so insanely jealous of her immense creativity and talent they cant bring themselves to admit that they love her and wish they were more like her razz giggle


woot! agreed
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Reply #56 posted 06/23/09 12:15pm

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InsatiableCream said:

daPrettyman said:


How many albums does she have? I've only seen "The Fame".


that's her only official so far but she has TONS of songs out there


Since you guys are the GaGa experts, can you tell me how she got in the biz? I have done a few searches and have never gotten a good bio.

I didn't know about her until I heard a few gay friends talking about her early last year (before "Just Dance" hit it big). I even saw a few clips of her on YouTube performing at various clubs. I thought she was good.

My problem with some of the comments you guys are saying is that she's so talented. Well, she is, but do you think she has what it takes to sustain a long-term career? So far, I don't see it. Not dissing her, just stating it as I see it. I downloaded "The Fame" and really like it. It's an excellent pop album. I just wonder if she has what it takes to be in this business for 5 or more years. Especially with the way the music biz is now.
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Reply #57 posted 06/23/09 12:28pm

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But maybe I'm not seeing what your seeing....
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Reply #58 posted 06/23/09 12:37pm

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daPrettyman said:

InsatiableCream said:



that's her only official so far but she has TONS of songs out there


Since you guys are the GaGa experts, can you tell me how she got in the biz? I have done a few searches and have never gotten a good bio.

I didn't know about her until I heard a few gay friends talking about her early last year (before "Just Dance" hit it big). I even saw a few clips of her on YouTube performing at various clubs. I thought she was good.

My problem with some of the comments you guys are saying is that she's so talented. Well, she is, but do you think she has what it takes to sustain a long-term career? So far, I don't see it. Not dissing her, just stating it as I see it. I downloaded "The Fame" and really like it. It's an excellent pop album. I just wonder if she has what it takes to be in this business for 5 or more years. Especially with the way the music biz is now.




>>>Gaga was originally signed to Def Jam when she was 19 years old; it happened after the record executive L. A. Reid heard her singing down the hallway from his office.[20] However Gaga states Reid never met with her.[20] "I used to wait outside his office for hours, hoping he'd take meetings with me about my songs, but it never happened."[20] After three months, Reid dropped Gaga from the label.[20]

She was spotted a couple of years later by the music executive Vincent Herbert and signed to Interscope in January 2008. Impressed by her ear for melody and knack for spotting a great hook, various acts have hired her as a songwriter, including Akon's Konvict label, as well as Fergie, Pussycat Dolls, Britney Spears and New Kids on the Block.[14] Gaga also sparked the interest of Interscope's Chairman Jimmy Iovine in early 2007.[20] He offered her a label deal via Streamline/Interscope and partnered her with singer-songwriter Akon.[20] It was Akon, who, upon hearing her sing a reference vocal for one of his tracks, recognized that Gaga also had vocal talent.[21] Akon ultimately convinced Jimmy Iovine to sign her to a joint deal with his own label, Kon Live Distribution.[20] Akon would later call Gaga his "franchise player".[22]

Throughout 2007, Lady Gaga collaborated with the similarly named Lower East Side Rock DJ, go-go dancer and performance artist Lady Starlight, who helped Gaga create her onstage fashions.[23] The pair began playing gigs at downtown club venues like Mercury Lounge, The Bitter End, and Rockwood Music Hall,[19] with their live performance art piece, "Lady Gaga and The Starlight Revue."[24] Billed as "The Ultimate Pop Burlesque Rockshow,"[25] their act was a low-fi tribute to 1970's variety acts.[26] In August 2007, Lady Gaga and The Starlight Revue were invited to play at American music festival Lollapalooza, where they shocked audiences with their wild performance.[27] The show was critically acclaimed and their performance received rave reviews.[7][19]

Having initially focused on avant-garde, electronic dance music, Gaga found her musical niche when she began to incorporate pop melodies and the vintage glam-rock of David Bowie and Queen into the mix.[3] "Queen and David Bowie were the key for me... I didn't know what to do until I discovered Bowie and Queen," Gaga says. "When I was playing the New York rock clubs, a lot of record labels thought I was too theatrical. Then, when I auditioned for stage musicals, the producers said I was too pop."[3]

It was through her affiliation with Akon that Gaga started to work on her own new material for her debut album with producer RedOne. Already having a solid selection of electro-glam, David Bowie-esque, Queen inspired songs, Gaga wanted to mix her retro dance beats with urban melodies, a pop chorus and still retain a rock 'n' roll edge. The first song they produced was a mash-up of Mötley Crüe's hit "Girls, Girls, Girls" and AC/DC's "T.N.T."[17]

By 2008, Gaga had relocated to Los Angeles, working closely with her record label to finalize her debut album The Fame.[17] "The Fame is about how anyone can feel famous," she explains. "Pop culture is art. It doesn’t make you cool to hate pop culture, so I embraced it and you hear it all over The Fame. But, it’s a sharable fame. I want to invite you all to the party. I want people to feel a part of this lifestyle."[7] For this album, Gaga also stated she "married" a lot of different genres, "from Def Leppard drums and handclaps to metal drums on urban tracks."[20] Gaga started to work with a collective called the "Haus of Gaga," who collaborate with their muse on clothing, stage sets and sounds. "In this industry, you get a lot of stylists and producers thrown at you, but this is my own creative team, modeled on Warhol's Factory. Everyone is under 26 and we do everything together."[14] The Fame received mostly positive reviews from critics, according to the music review aggregation of Metacritic, it has received an average score of seventy-one out of hundred.[28] Times Online described the album as "a fantastic mix of Bowie-esque ballads, dramatic, Queen-inspired midtempo numbers and synth-based dance tracks that poke fun at celebrity-chasing rich kids."[14] The album's lead single, "Just Dance," was released on April 8, 2008, and has reached number one in seven countries.[29] One of those countries was the United States, where "Just Dance" started to receive radio airplay in October, and hit number one in 2009, becoming Gaga's first US number-one single.[30] The second single, "Poker Face," was released on September 29, 2008, and has reached number one in nearly twenty countries, including almost all major music markets in the world. "Poker Face" became Gaga's second consecutive number one on the Billboard Hot 100 in April 2009 <<<<
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Reply #59 posted 06/23/09 12:45pm

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daPrettyman said:

InsatiableCream said:



that's her only official so far but she has TONS of songs out there


Since you guys are the GaGa experts, can you tell me how she got in the biz? I have done a few searches and have never gotten a good bio.


In short, as I understand it: Was accepted into Julliard (but didn't attend). She started writing songs at 13, started playing at open mic nights at 14. At 17, was admitted to NYU where she studied music. She interned at Island Def Jam for some time, and was signed by the label at age 19 then dropped three months later. She withdrew from NYU when she was hired as a songwriter by Interscope at age 20. She had been performing in NYC clubs for years, and had honed her stage personality this way. Jimmy Iovine offered her a contract, and she was signed by Interscope in 2008. She started out as a songwriter for other artists and then began working on her debut album.

My problem with some of the comments you guys are saying is that she's so talented. Well, she is, but do you think she has what it takes to sustain a long-term career? So far, I don't see it. Not dissing her, just stating it as I see it. I downloaded "The Fame" and really like it. It's an excellent pop album. I just wonder if she has what it takes to be in this business for 5 or more years. Especially with the way the music biz is now.


I think she definitely has what it takes to sustain a long-term career. The music industry has always been fickle, though, so nothing is certain. But I think she has the drive, ambition and intelligence to make it happen for herself.
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