Timmy84 said:

Fo'real though how do you go from doing...


To hop on disco?

Then again,,,,,I understand

Harlepolis said:

Lots of disco-associated producers said that's when disco hit the crapper.

Harle you KNOW things have gotten out-of-control when a singer like Merman gets into the act. That's like Aretha cutting a Snoop Dogg joint. Some things should NEVER happen!

brooksie said:

AMEN!

brooksie said:

Well Ms.Everthing did the unthinkable while we're at it



There's something VERY wrong in this pic, guess what it is?

Well at least Ethel Merman was a real person and YES I own this one:

Harlepolis said:

It was a sad day when Aretha, the Queen of Soul, tried to do a disco record...and FAILED!

brooksie said:

OH my gentle loving Jesus

Is that Aretha singing country or something? She was actually quite a fox back before she blew up. I don't recall that era myself, but I've seen pics of skinny Re.

brooksie said:

I'm surprised Sesame Street didn't jump the shark after that.

brooksie said:

No, she was singing a full-fledged disco record.

brooksie said:

Thats what I meant by "wrong".

The scary part about it is that the Sesame Street record wasn't half bad! That record sold quite respectably. It actually cracked the pop charts. Kids used to bring it to school for "show and tell" along w/ the Muppets disco album and Disco Duck.

Aretha singing disco, OTOH, makes the world melt.

http://tinyurl.com/mxmbtm check the reviews for the Sesame Street lp. I didn't know Robin Gibb sang on it, but like I said...it was actually pretty good. I know adults actually dug it too. It was a family thing.
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brooksie said:

The music room at my elementary school had it (wayyy later than the disco era I might add)

Cinnie said:

That's strange. I can remember seeing this in kindergarten too!

Hilarious story!

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uPtoWnNY said:

Oh, I remember those bastards very well. Most of them were racist to begin with and the majority of disco artists were black and outselling rock. They couldn't stand it and absolutely hated it.



I don't see near the same type of hate for shit hop as I saw for disco because I have been waiting for years for that type of hate to come along and kill shit hop but it's not going to.

The only white people I see hating shit hop are the same aged white people from the old school who were hating disco back in the day. The majority of young white people these days absolutely love shit hop. The difference is, the time and progress in race relations that has occurred since the days of hatred for disco. People seem to forget that disco occurred only 10 years after segregation ended. Racist white people were totally comfortable to be racist all out in the open during the disco era without any fear of backlash or retalliation against them. Shit hop, like disco, is a genre filled with black artists, white people are buying it up, and a lot of other white people pissed about it because they are afraid that all that acceptance of black music will encourage race mixing. The difference now is, the progress that black people have made since those days. Racists are still racist but they are racist in private because these days they can be fired from their jobs for making racist comments or harassing people. Racists hide their views now but they were totally safe to spit them out during the days of disco.



I have always hoped that shit hop would die the same death that disco did. I absolutely loved disco and was furious to see it die. It was because of disco's death that I switched over to black radio altogether because the funk at the time was the closest sounding thing to disco. And it was because of all the racist whites and their hatred for disco which got me labelled as the "nigger lover" and made me bitter toward those rednecks and start to see and absolutely hate racism because I was feeling it myself before I even dated the first black person but because of the type of music I was listening to.

Since I absolutely hate shit hop because it's dull as hell and has dominitate everything for damn near 20 years, I've been hoping the backlash would come because I'd like to see shit hop die by any means necessary so we can get back to throwing down again. However, unlike disco, shit hop isn't going anywhere because it has the record labels behind it to keep it alive no matter who is against it. They have found the cheapest made form of music available for the biggest profit available and they aren't about to let it die no matter who hates shit hop or for whatever reasons they hate it. Disco wasn't cheap to make like shit hop is and the labels have found the goose that laid the golden egg with shit hop and they don't intent to let anyone kill that goose.

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Harlepolis said:

A lot of the hatred for disco was racism but another part of the hatred was homophobia and disco had strong gay roots just like it had strong black roots. There has always been a lot of hatred against black people but if you want to see redneck white trash and thug black trash with their arms around each other and having a beer together, just bring up the subject of something gay. Something doesn't even have to actually be gay, just the possibility that something might be gay and those two groups of assholes come together so fast you would think they were best buddies all along.
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vainandy said:

Racism, homophobia, sexism = the hate for disco, lol. That's just it in a nutshell, you don't have to explain, Andy, we know you're telling the truth, shit you was there during that time anyways, lol.

I think that was why they resented disco because these were black artists that were making big money because disco was all over the radio and whites were buying it and funk was only on black radio and bought mainly by blacks only. And it still remained that way after the death of disco.

I can definately see the resentment because the disco artists were crossover artists and going after the crossover crowd. I was pissed as hell my damn self when I started seeing a lot of artists following Shitney Houston's lead and going after that crossover crowd because when everyone has finally crossed over, there's no funk left. However, I see it differently when it comes to Shitney though because disco may have been a crossover genre but the music was fast, funky, and danceable just like funk was and it was because I was a disco lover first that I even got into funk. With Shitney though, she was the complete opposite. She was going after the old dorky white crowd and slowing shit down to the ancient days of elevator music. I guess you could say that disco is the main form of music I like because everything I liked after it such as funk and house music resembled disco in some kind of way. Shitney came along and just got everyone completely away from anything dance related. Hey, it's fine to crossover but only if you crossover in a good way, not a dull way. People may say..."hey you've got a different set of rules when it comes to something crossing over if it's something you like"....well maybe so but if they don't like it...hey, fuck 'em. Whoever said life was fair.

vainandy said:

I knew you would say that.

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brooksie said:

Oh you hit the nail dead on the head with that statement. Those disco ladies were some hard strong bitches, they had attitude, they were slutty, and weren't afraid to show it. They were the type of women I absolutely love. The complete opposite type of woman than the goodie two shoes little cheerleader type holding her books to her breasts and picking petals off a rose saying "If he loves me...if he loves me not" that came along in 1985 and helped women to start dominating again. Hell, it was like taking all the women off the corner singing about "Bad Girls" and brought back the sickening innocent ones that sing shit about "My Boyfriend's Back and You're Gonna Be In Trouble".

brooksie said:

Given that Ernie & Bert were borderline gay, this^ isn't a big deal.

Wow!! So "I'm Coming Out" really WAS a gay song!!! I always thought "coming out" was a phrase that was used AFTER this song was released.

That's another thing that helped kill disco. Every young crowd since the days of rock and roll has wanted to be cool, hip, and rebellious. When you get dorky people like this making a disco record, then it makes the genre seem less "cool" and makes the young listener afraid that they will be labelled a nerd or a dork if they listen to it.

I have always wished someone extremely dorky and "white" like Debbie Boone who made "You Light Up My Life" or Barbara Streisand would make a shit hop record and help the genre seem less "cool" and "rebellious" to these young listeners so they would turn away from it like so many did with disco. However, since the days of Shitney, the "safe" artist has no longer been seen as uncool. Hell, there have been even numerous Disney hits since those days and you don't get no more uncool than that. Hell, we would have slung a Disney record up against the wall back in the day and stomped on it.
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vainandy said:

Harlepolis said:

A professor of mine was talking about the disco era and said the music was repetitive and offered no real artistic merit, it was just shallow danceclub music and was a rip off of funk

I know alot of people from that era would say otherwise. KC, Michael Jackson, and other people said they felt the disco sucks brigade was more about racist and being homophobia instead of seeing the music as a medium to bring people together to dance and have a good time

Disco had another branch off called "Boogie" that more for the R&B/funk concentrated DJs. Leroy Burgess (formerly of Black Ivory), Leon Sylvers, and other cats had a big part in the Boogie scene (1978-1984)

Harlepolis said:

The cowboy boots?

Re-Re was looking smashable in this picture

vainandy said:

Well we did have Vanilla Ice at one point. But instead of "killing" hip-hop/rap with his hip-pop style, he simply convince most of his white audience to embrace the gangsta-style of Dr. Dre & Snoop Dogg, since slowing the music tempo down while they're smoking weed and drinking beer OR malt liquor was more "black", "hood", "ghetto", & "real" than that corning stuff Vanilla Ice was doing.

bboy87 said:

Popular music of all forms are repititive... rock, funk, disco... Your prof was just trying to justify his personal taste imo.