brooksie said:

though she is two years older than Debbie.

ehuffnsd said:

Kylie wasn't marketed like Debbie, remember that. Debbie's age was a big selling point back then. Kylie was more like Susanna Hofs...Debbie and Tiffani were more "dropped at mall, picked up by mom".

to a 12 year old, yes...19 seemed older and far more grown than a 16 year old. Did you forget what it was like to be 12...14 seemed mature!

Kylie is an icon?

Who knew!

brooksie said:

Kylie wasn't marketed that much in the states.

midiscover said:

Us Yanks don't know it, for truth. We act like she ain't the biggest thing since sliced bread!

midiscover said:

POP princess Kylie Minogue was yesterday hailed as the greatest GAY icon of all time.

Runner-up in a survey of 5,000 gays by Onepoll.com was Dolly Parton.

Abba were third and Judy Garland fourth. David Beckham was sixth and Posh was 12th.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/s...le6978.ece

brooksie said:

i think you are confusing the early days of kylie for the rhythm of love era

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^^^ No, she wasn't heavily marketed here, which is why now the US is the only place she isn't huge. However, in her earlier career (the posted vids), she had some heat. I liked her back then, but she just disappeared. Ihad no idea she was still so big until into the 90s. We just stopped hearing about her. She was the White Five Star to us Yanks.

I scratch my head about why once she transitioned into an adult pop star, she didn't take off here. Maybe it was marketing or she was too similar to Madonna, but the US has missed out on the magic of the dance diva extraordinaire.

No, I'm talking about the Loco-Motion era. That's when she was big here.

ehuffnsd said:

All the cheesy people, IOW...except Kylie.

brooksie said:

yeah but look at her look in the Kylie era to her look in Rhythm of Love era she was never considered a Susanna Hoffs in the states she was the Locomotion girl.

she was never considered sophisticated. that's why she's avoided doing promo in the US is because she doesn't want to keep talking about something she did 21 years ago.

ehuffnsd said:

*I* considered her like Hoffs, but I don't know how others looked at her. Loco-Motion...Walk Like an Egyptian, dancey, upbeat, and basic. Sound of the times.

It's hard for foreign stars (who aren't English) here, esp. it was back then. I don't know if you're a Yank, but we only got to see tiny bits of these folks and had no real way of judging them overall.

Surely Kylie doesn't think we'd want her to rehash Loco-Motion after all these years?

brooksie said:

i don't think you are American because in the 28 years, i've been alive i've never heard another American refer to themselves as a Yank

ehuffnsd said:

Really? Funny that, but I kinda dig the term cuz it's got the double edge to it. I guess I jist watched too much EastEnders when I was in my teens. It played here on PBS.

Sometimes Southerners will describe Northern Americans as "Yankees", but only when they're in a bad mood!

Where are you from?
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Debbie Gibson's Billboard Hot 100 chart peaks


1987
"Only In My Dreams" 4
"Shake Your Love" 4

1988
"Out of the Blue" 3
"Foolish Beat" 1
"Staying Together" 22

1989
"Lost In Your Eyes" 1
"Electric Youth" 11
"No More Rhyme" 17
"We Could Be Together" 71

1990
"Anything Is Possible" 26

1993
"Losin' Myself" 86

newpower99 said:

This is quite a respectable run for an artist back then. Hardly just two albums. Good Lord, they played "Foolish Beat" 24/7 it felt like back then.

VinnyM27 said:

OFF-TOPIC: Jellybean Benitez & Madonna dated once.

midiscover said:

ANSWER: Anyone outside of the USA knew.

newpower99 said:

Foolish Beat also receive some airplay on r&b/urban FM radio as well.

brooksie said:

I'm a Southerner but I wouldn't dare call a Northern American a "Yank", that's just wrong, lol. Hell I don't even call myself a SOUTHERNER, I'm an Pangian, ain't that right, Estelle?

brooksie said:

They said Debbie wrote and produce "Foolish Beat" by her lonesome (or at least co-produced it) I know she wrote it though. She was 17 when the song hit number-one.

Timmy84 said:

I said only when thy're mad! Who lives on Pangia w/ you?

Timmy84 said:

That was her 1st truly adult sound. I seriously wish she'd come along in 97 rather than 87.

brooksie said:

Even if I'm mad, I wouldn't call them a Yank, hell naw! Just say mothafucka and keep it moving.

brooksie said:

She probably would've went the alternative rock route if she came out in '97.

TonyVanDam said:

They had a long term thing, so it was kinda unfair to say she fucked for tracks.

brooksie said:

Madonna also had a long-term affair with another musical collaborator, Stephen Bray.

Timmy84 said:

That was Spice Girls time, so her original work actually could have worked then. From that point forwards, Debbie style pop came back w/ Brit, Christina, and Jessica Simpson.

Did you see that post where I pulled out Debbie having worked w/ the Circle Jerks? I'm gonna look that track up cuz I need to hear that.

Timmy84 said:

There was also Jean-Michel Basquiat.

brooksie said:

Honestly, I don't even see Debbie even doing that type of pop around that time anyways. I mean you never know what artists would've done had they been born in a different era.