Jefferey Daniels seems off to me and what rock did this Delisa person crawl out from under? That was a serious crackwhore weave.

SoulAlive said:

Even more interesting.

This was just OK. Miki Free was my fav part. Over all you learned more about how the whole thing got started than how the favorite incarnation of the group fell apart.

Howard Hewett looked OK to me, just fat. Jeffery Daniel got's this whole "I've lived overseas for too long to be a Yank anymore" syndrome, a la Johnny Depp....but he seems quite off in addition to just that. There's a weirdness there w/ Jeffery. He seemed spacey.

Jody didn't seem bitter or anything, but you could tell there was more that wasn't said than was w/ her. I got the feeling she was treated badly and wriiten off because she was a woman there (in their minds) just for her looks.
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brooksie said:

Yeah she didn't seem bitter to me but I guess Jody went through hell while as a member of Shalamar that some things were either not broadcast or it was some issues Jody kept to herself because she didn't wanna create unnecessary drama with either Jody or Jeffrey.

To me Jeffrey always seemed spacey so his behavior on the show wasn't so surprising to me. As for Delisa, good Lord, what happened? I have to see the first twelve minutes. I was playing around with my brother's MP3 player when I realized the show was on after 12 minutes.

sosgemini said:

I agree about the show needing to hire real journalists to do the interviewing. That's TV-One for ya. I was just happy to hear Jody speaking out about how some of the things went down. This is the first time that I can recall that she has really talked about the situation. I would have rather it been an Oprah-like interview than a bits-and-pieces type show. An Oprah-like show (similar to what Prince did in 96) would have been excellent.

Can someone answer this for me? Is Howard the main reason the group split or was Jody? It sounds like they were all head strong and the label didn't help the situation. Man, those recording sessions must have been a trip.

As for Howard, I don't think he's aged badly. After all, he is almost 55 years old. I met him about 8 or 9 years ago and he was truly nice and genuine (very similar to the way he reacted to the fan while taping). Always hugging fans, shaking hands, etc. He really makes you feel special when you meet him.

Why was Howard's SUCCESSFUL solo career overlooked? He had great success on the r&b side of things.

Why was Jeffrey's solo projects overlooked?

When did "Dancing In The Sheets" win a Grammy? I cannot locate any info backing that statement up.

Why was the Babyface collaboration overlooked? That was truly the Shalamar reunion (on record at least).

So many unanswered questions and half-truths. Thanks TV-One for half-doing a job....again.

Dude, what is going on with unsung this season? The only good one so far was Minnie's. There is a Shalamar story, but shit was glossed over. No mention of Jefferey's marriage to Stephanie Mills at all and my older cousin told me that when they got married, that was big news in the black music world
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and micki free is straight? r.i.g.h.t.

I'll watch this again just to make sure, but I think Jeffery had work done on his face while Jody and Howard clearly didn't. Based on some of the earlier comments here, I expected Howard to look terrible, but he looks like a normal (yet chubby) guy of over 50. Jody looks great.

The show's biggest weakness is that they are only 1 hr long (47 mins w/o commercials) so it's hard to get much info about these people who had long careers at the top (let's say 5 years +). They seem to do better w/ people who had shorter lengths of success.
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daPrettyman said

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From what I could make out, Howard was the main problem. Before he joined, he seemed to have some small success on his own, so maybe he brought that 'tude to the game?! It also seems like Dick Griffey favored all 3 original the lead singers over Jeff and Jody. Treating them like expendable red headed step children couldn't have made them inclined to stay.

Howard Hewett's solo career was HUGE in the rnb genre and I'm not sure about Daniel's, but it seemed the focused on Jody because she had big POP hits.

Howard was never skinny, even when he was young. I think the only work done on Jeffery's face was with a crackpipe.

scriptgirl said:

Back then, people in general were a WHOLE lot thinner....and I never thought of or heard it said that Hewett was fat or even chubby. Clearly he now has middle age spread, but his face doesn't look bad (and still moves).

Crack doesn't leave you w/ a forehead or eyebrows that have no mobility. At the very least, dude's had 'tox. TBH, he looks a bit lifted.
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LOL @ Jeffery saying

DUN-CING aka DANCING

Ya know what? Forget it, I hope Flo's episode is a little better, lol. It probably will since like Minnie, Flo's no longer here in this earth.

wow I didn't know she had a child I wonder why Andre wanted to keep their marriage a secret. learned a little from this special... but as many said it wasn't in-depth enough.



Jody Watley doesn't get enough credit for her influence on fashion in the early 80's

Timmy84 said:

Well there ya go...

As I've said before I knew little about Shalamar, listened to their music ( I don't remember if I ever bought any of their albums) so when they "went away" I didn't think much of it. For those who thought it was a BIG yawn that's perfectly understandable.... that's how I felt about Melba M./Minnie R. You saw it in real time.

As far a "Unsung"these types of shows are at the mercy of artist (those who are alive to speak of their careers) and what they are willing to reveal. So, some artist/musician's/ singers are going to be more forth coming about the good, bad, ugly, the dirt and some just aren't. I doubt many will be as straight forward as the DeBarges have been or Bobby Womack will be in his upcoming profile on "Unsung".
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daPrettyman said:

I see it was nominated for a best R&B Grammy in 1984, but I Feel For You won.

Not only that, "Dacing in The Sheets" is from the Footloose soundtrack. "Don't Get Stopped in Beverly Hills" was from the Beverly Hills Cop soundtrack. They got that wrong too.

TD3 said:

WHAAAT!! Bobby Womack is getting an episode? I can't wait for this!!! I assume this will be apart of a new batch this fall or winter.

That sleazoid Bobby Womanck is getting an ep? Blech.

Anyway, since when were Jody and Andre married?

SoulAlive said:

Jeffrey was RUTHLESS.

At some point, he tried to push her outta the car WHILE its on speed I could tell where she got the emotion from when she sang "I've Learned To Respect(The Power Of Love)".

As for the special, I haven't seen any hints of bitterness from Ms.Watley,,,,she was speaking in a very matter-of-factly manner, if people found her to be bitter? Well, wouldn't you if you were in her situation?

Even Howard and them admitted about their mistreatment of her. Make no mistake though, she got the last laugh when everybody was sure she was going to be a flop.

Where did you hear that Jefferey tried to push her out of the car? I believe it-he has mean eyes.

I finaly caught an episode on this seasons Unsung.

Harlepolis said:

Yeah he dogged her out BAD! Stephanie's friends was against her wedding this man. Some of her friends were jumping on top of the limo after the wedding was over protesting it. I don't know why he married her just to mistreat her? Jody was hating on Stephanie because she used to be his girlfriend.

Other than bad marriages and not getting along within the group it was boring.

musicman said:

Yeah... he's comin I'm sure in the fall. The may have to put a parent advisory on Womak's expose.

Scriptgirl said:




I thought, Sista you knew your were going to be on TV; the straight out of bed hair look may work for some men but it never works for women.

TD3 said:

Oh please you know there'll be NO exposes of any kind.

In fact, you might only hear a one sentence through out that whole special "Bobby Womack married Sam Cooke's widow", thats it.

All the other deep stuff will be kept underground as usual.

Harlepolis said:

We shall see.

Womack and Unsung might as well, he dumped his dirty filthy laundry all out on front street in his book.

babybugz said:

As much as i love Jody,i'm just not feeling her oh they done me so
wrong stories. The music business is shady, always has been, always will
be. Howard and Jeff seemed to have good vibes about what they accomplished
and both acknowledged the ups and downs, the group's turmoil but both
seem to have moved on. Jody still seems to hang on to some bad feelings.
It's been 20 something years move on. I'm not expecting any type of reunion
out of this and Howard respectfully stated he wouldn't want to do it without
the other two members but if Howie and Jeff ever got that itch to do it
and Jody trips hell just get another female voice and do some select shows
and call it a day.

sosgemini said:

all up in Eastmont Mall or Durant Square

daPrettyman said:

Yeah, they did overlook Jeffery's work, especially in the dance community

Homie co-choreographied 2 of my favorite videos, Bad and Smooth Criminal

brooksie said:

I've always dug Free. He just always seemed cool as hell. I remember
after all the turmoil with Shalamar and he became the leader he opted
to turn the band to funk. I remember when Sidney Justin played for the
Indianapolis Colts in the early 80's. I think Free was married
to actress Terri Copley.