Funny that, being 39, i don't see Mike as a pop-artist, no matter what you or himself says or portrays himself as, my fave era off his is purely 70's with his bro's , always has been. But respect up to 'Thriller' in '82 and as a peformer til the Bad tour.

No dispute as a kid, he was purely a soulful act then. Ask Berry.

He does not deserve to share the same post with Madge or Mariah, unless i'm missing something or you're intentionally being disrespectful.

I respect his wishes to be known as the King Of Pop. What's more "pop" than Thriller? That's the friggen blueprint for pop.

I also like the org because I can find new and obscure stuff, especially reading Mara's posts

I also like the org because I can find new and obscure stuff, especially reading Mara's posts

brooksie said:

One thing you have to accept about this forum is the average age of the participants.
And based on that, what was in their musical wheel-house during the formative years.

I did a post on this very issue because I was very curious about why so many of the posts seemed to center around Michael Jackson (and related family members), Madonna, Mariah Carey (for those a bit younger) and similar Pop artists.

For someone in their mid-30s (what the "age post" revealed as the average) if you go back approximately 20 years, that places them very close to the center of Michael/Madonna-mania (Off The Wall, Thriller, Madonna, Like A Virgin).

If you grew up in that time period and were not an adventurous listener (genre or time frame) then that's all you're going to be able to talk about with any degree of enthusiasm. And there's really nothing wrong with that. There's no requirement for folks to stretch their listening habits if they have no inclination to do so.

There's really no point in complaining about it.
You're either going to have to accept it or keep it moving.

I agree with brooksie's suggestion that you make your own posts about the artists you're interested in.

You may not get the hit-count of an MJ thread, but in time you'll attract those that share your particular tastes.



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Marrk said:

I agree that MJ was an incredible SOUL singer up to the point the J5 signed w/ Motown. That's the sound they liked and then proceeded to change. The kid was (anyone in doubt, check "Who's Lovin' You") as a singer, however after they got to Motown they were turned into a crossover pop act (even bubblegummy at that point).

I always thought it was a pity that the J5 didn't go to Stax. Their REAL thing was soul and Stax wouldn't have buried that, but we did see evidence of it during their Jacksons years at Epic.

I would def say from "Thriller" onwards, MJ was on the pop side of things firmly.
[Edited 6/17/09 16:50pm]

brooksie said:

By the point the Jackson 5 signed with Motown, Berry wanted the label to be mainly POP though SOUL artists such as Gladys Knight and Martha Reeves were still signed to the label around this time. Obviously if the Jacksons had been a little older than they were and they had auditioned for Motown in 1962 or 1963 and had hits in 1964, obviously they would've had a more soulful appeal to them than the bubblegum soul thing that they were given in '69.

Timmy84 said:

The J5 were only the 2nd kiddie act that Motown ever had and it seems they had no idea of how to deal w/ young kids who sang like 45 year old men! Stevie they had no idea of what direction to take him, so he floundered at Motown for most of the early-mid 60s. I find it interesting that they never thought to take Stevie fully pop, but later did so w/ J5.

bboy87 said:

And rare old school joints like from IAintTheOne and MrSoulPower's posts.
[Edited 6/17/09 19:36pm]

Q: How does the org compare to other music forums?

A: Most of the orgers that grew up on 1960's, 1970's & 1980's music post here. Yes, we have orgers that grew up on 1990's music posting here, but they're always outnumbered by us grown folks!

brooksie said:

I find that interesting as well. Apparently Stevie molded himself, like you said, Motown did not know what they do with a cat like Stevie.

TonyVanDam said:

But many of the youngsters be dropping mad knowledge. I'm constantly amazed and educated by the youngins and wanna give 'em a special treat.

SCNDLS said:

it's a trap! she's trying to kidnap all the young tenders!

SCNDLS said:

it's a trap! she's trying to kidnap all the young tenders!

bboy87 said:

Ooooh! You would have got me if they were yellow m&ms!
Hell, free IS free, give em to me

Timmy84 said:

When Stevie's voice was changing they didn't like it at all and if he didn't have a song like "Uptight" they would've probably ended his contract pretty quick back in the mid-60s. Stevie jokes about it alot but it was serious at the time for sure.

TonyVanDam said:

But many of the youngsters be dropping mad knowledge. I'm constantly amazed and educated by the youngins and wanna give 'em a special treat.

cheesecakequeen said:

I'll be sure to add that to my shopping list.

SCNDLS said:

Much props for acknowledging the youngins

Coz some of these grouchy old mofos would drop dead before they do it thinking they got fed by god the knowledge with a silver spoon and NOBODY else.