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Timmy84

Phil Spector update: producer found guilty of murder!

Music legend Phil Spector found guilty of murder six years after actress was shot dead

By David Gardner
Last updated at 10:21 PM on 13th April 2009

Phil Spector was tonight convicted of murder of a struggling actress shot dead at his Hollywood home six years ago.

Tonight the diminutive 69-year-old pop millionaire faced spending the rest of his life behind bars.

The guilty verdict came six years after Spector shot B-movie Hollywood actress Lana Clarkson through the mouth in the driveway of his sprawling castle-style California mansion.

And it took two trials lasting more than ten-and-a-half months to reach a verdict.

Spector’s first trial ended in September 2007 with jurors deadlocked 10-2 in favour of a conviction.

And today's verdict came after almost 29 hours of deliberations.

In the end, his violent past caught up with the ageing producer, who worked with stars like the Beatles, Tina Turner, The Ronettes and the Righteous Brothers in his heyday and was credited with revolutionising pop production in the 1960s.

It was only when Lana Clarkson’s body was discovered in a pool of blood in the early hours of February 3, 2003 with Spector standing over her with a gun that his previous victims began to come forward.

Then, one after another, five women told the court a variation on essentially the same story; how Spector, a normally charismatic if rather strange man, went into a rage after drinking too much and threatened them with guns when they tried to leave.

Among them was Dorothy Melvin, a former Spector girlfriend who managed comedienne Joan Rivers.

‘Phil is a very brilliant and charming man,’ she said.

‘Only when drinking he snaps and becomes a lunatic.’

Another ex-girlfriend, Diane Ogden, testified that Spector seemed to undergo a personality change as she tried to leave a party he threw in 1989.

‘He was screaming at me, the F-word,’ she said.

‘He wasn't my Phil, not the man I loved. It wasn't him. He was demonic. It scared the hell out of me.’

British-born musician Deyra Robitaille, another Spector love interest, said he twice pulled a gun on her, once in the 1970s and again in the 1980s.

On one occasion, she said, Spector told her: ‘If you leave, I’ll blow your f***** head off.’

Although none of them claimed to know what happened on the night Lana Clarkson died, the pattern of his behaviour was ultimately too similar for the jury to ignore.

The parallels with the night the 6ft tall actress died were chilling even if the stories were very old - 30 years in one instance.

The second jury found Spector guilty after a retrial during which the eccentric millionaire’s high-priced defence team tried to claim Miss Clarkson killed herself in a fit of despair over her fading film career.

Although he adamantly maintained his innocence outside the courtroom and through his phalanx of lawyers, Spector chose not to put his side of the story to the jury from the witness box in either trial.

Prosecutor Alan Jackson accused him of throwing money at a problem in the belief that will make it go away.

‘How does a homicide become a suicide? You write a big, fat cheque,’ he said in his summing up.

Mr Jackson said that one expert forensic witness was paid 'a horse-choking’ £125,000 for testifying for the defence.

Spector presented a bizarre spectacle throughout the court drama.

During the first trial, he sported three hairstyles in three different shades, a colour wheel of pastel ties and pocket hankerchiefs topped at times by flowing morning coats.

But his style became more sombre as media interest in the retrial waned and by the time the case drew to a close he looked haggard and tired.

Nevertheless, in the annals of celebrity crime, the case will certainly stand as one of the strangest.

The saga of a forgotten music icon and an over the hill cult B-movie actress found dead in his Victorian hilltop mansion in the Al Hambra suburb of Los Angeles is the stuff of film noire.

Miss Clarkson’s main claim to fame was a starring role in the 1985 film ‘Barbarian Queen’, but her Marilyn Monroe dreams had fallen so far she was reduced to taking a job as a £5-an-hour hostess at the House of Blues restaurant on LA’s fabled Sunset Strip.

Ironically, she became more famous in death, her picture splashed across newspapers and TV screens around the world after she was found with a bullet through her mouth in the foyer of Spector’s home after agreeing to accompany him home for a nightcap.

It took eight months for police to charge the record producer and four years to bring the case to trial the first time around.

When the jury couldn’t break their impasse after twelve days of deliberating a second trial became inevitable.

Haunted by their failures in past celebrity cases, Los Angeles prosecutors had to fight a determined bid by defence lawyers to claim Miss Clarkson turned the gun on herself.

Experts tried to claim forensic evidence from the scene pointed to a self-inflicted wound.

The chauffeur who delivered Spector and Miss Clarkson to the mansion testified that he waited outside and heard the ‘pow’ of a gun some two hours later.

Adriano De Souza would recall Spector emerging from the house, a gun in his hand, declaring, ‘I think I killed somebody.’

Defence experts tried to suggest De Souza’s poor English and noise from a waterfall in the grounds meant he had somehow misheard Spector’s confession.

But the jury’s guilty verdict was heard loud and clear by Spector as he was led off to prison.
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Reply #1 posted 04/13/09 1:52pm

RipHer2Shreds

This has been going on so long that I forgot this happened in 2003!
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Reply #2 posted 04/13/09 2:00pm

Timmy84

RipHer2Shreds said:

This has been going on so long that I forgot this happened in 2003!


Yeah they had a mistrial the first time I think it was 2007.
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Reply #3 posted 04/13/09 2:01pm

RipHer2Shreds

Timmy84 said:

RipHer2Shreds said:

This has been going on so long that I forgot this happened in 2003!


Yeah they had a mistrial the first time I think it was 2007.

Yes, 2007. I knew about the mistrial. I just forgot how long ago the murder was.
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Reply #4 posted 04/13/09 2:04pm

RipHer2Shreds

Anyway he looks like Marcia Clark in this photo lol

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Reply #5 posted 04/13/09 2:07pm

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shit he even looks crazy
cream.
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Reply #6 posted 04/13/09 2:09pm

Timmy84

InsatiableCream said:

shit he even looks crazy


Just "looks"?

He IS crazy. lol

I'm still trying to see if they posted the verdict yet. Maybe Phil and 'em gotta get there, lol.
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Reply #7 posted 04/13/09 2:11pm

Graycap23

If his name was O.J.....
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Reply #8 posted 04/13/09 2:13pm

RipHer2Shreds

Graycap23 said:

If his name was O.J.....

...he'd be in prison. biggrin
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Reply #9 posted 04/13/09 2:14pm

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Timmy84 said:

InsatiableCream said:

shit he even looks crazy


Just "looks"?

He IS crazy. lol

I'm still trying to see if they posted the verdict yet. Maybe Phil and 'em gotta get there, lol.


i actually believe he's killed lots of people before lol
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Reply #10 posted 04/13/09 2:20pm

Timmy84

InsatiableCream said:

Timmy84 said:



Just "looks"?

He IS crazy. lol

I'm still trying to see if they posted the verdict yet. Maybe Phil and 'em gotta get there, lol.


i actually believe he's killed lots of people before lol


Or attempted to kill, lol...
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Reply #11 posted 04/13/09 2:24pm

RipHer2Shreds

Convicted of 2nd degree murder:

http://www.cnn.com/2009/C...index.html
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Reply #12 posted 04/13/09 2:33pm

Timmy84

I'm sure Ronnie Spector is somewhere doing the double dutch. lol
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Reply #13 posted 04/13/09 2:34pm

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Ya know, I was watching this documentary about him last year and something about him....gave this vibe
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #14 posted 04/13/09 2:34pm

Timmy84

Graycap23 said:

If his name was O.J.....


"And the detective that found the glove just HAPPENED to be in the Nation of Islam, he be home eating cereal right now!" - Chris Rock

lol
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Reply #15 posted 04/13/09 2:35pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Ya know, I was watching this documentary about him last year and something about him....gave this vibe


Every time I saw his pictures I thought "that's one crazy diabolical mothafucka..." lol
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Reply #16 posted 04/13/09 2:38pm

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Timmy84 said:

bboy87 said:

Ya know, I was watching this documentary about him last year and something about him....gave this vibe


Every time I saw his pictures I thought "that's one crazy diabolical mothafucka..." lol

it was a miniseries that was released on PBS called "The Renegades" that talked about rock, pop, and soul from the 50s to the 90s. It came out in '95, and when they got to the segment about Spector, you could tell dude was few bites short of a full snack
"We may deify or demonize them but not ignore them. And we call them genius, because they are the people who change the world."
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Reply #17 posted 04/13/09 2:40pm

Timmy84

bboy87 said:

Timmy84 said:



Every time I saw his pictures I thought "that's one crazy diabolical mothafucka..." lol

it was a miniseries that was released on PBS called "The Renegades" that talked about rock, pop, and soul from the 50s to the 90s. It came out in '95, and when they got to the segment about Spector, you could tell dude was few bites short of a full snack


Right. Hell he was crazy from birth. His parents were actually cousins. eek
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Reply #18 posted 04/13/09 3:19pm

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shit he even looks crazy


He looks even crazier when he's wearing that Richard Simmons 'fro.
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Reply #19 posted 04/13/09 3:23pm

Timmy84

uPtoWnNY said:

InsatiableCream said:

shit he even looks crazy


He looks even crazier when he's wearing that Richard Simmons 'fro.


Warning: crazy-ass man picture about to be posted with ridiculous hair:



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Reply #20 posted 04/13/09 3:25pm

uPtoWnNY

^^^^ disbelief disbelief disbelief disbelief
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Reply #21 posted 04/13/09 3:26pm

Timmy84

Celebuzz.com said he was ALSO convicted of involuntary manslaughter ALONG WITH second-degree murder so either way you look at it, Phil's life is over.
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Reply #22 posted 04/13/09 3:28pm

uPtoWnNY

Timmy84 said:

Celebuzz.com said he was ALSO convicted of involuntary manslaughter ALONG WITH second-degree murder so either way you look at it, Phil's life is over.


I'd be interested to hear Ronnie's take on this. She'd probably say it's a long time coming.
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Reply #23 posted 04/13/09 3:31pm

Timmy84

uPtoWnNY said:

Timmy84 said:

Celebuzz.com said he was ALSO convicted of involuntary manslaughter ALONG WITH second-degree murder so either way you look at it, Phil's life is over.


I'd be interested to hear Ronnie's take on this. She'd probably say it's a long time coming.


Yeah. I'm sure Ronnie's glad she survived him. Mothafucka kept the poor girl locked in her own house for the tenure of their marriage. disbelief
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Reply #24 posted 04/13/09 3:32pm

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Great documentary with interview.
The Agony and Ecstacy of Phil Spector by Vikram Jayanti. 2008
It use to be streaming but I can't find it at the moment.
stoned That's some good shit!
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Reply #25 posted 04/13/09 3:41pm

uPtoWnNY

Timmy84 said:

uPtoWnNY said:



I'd be interested to hear Ronnie's take on this. She'd probably say it's a long time coming.


Yeah. I'm sure Ronnie's glad she survived him. Mothafucka kept the poor girl locked in her own house for the tenure of their marriage. disbelief
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Didn't this fool pull a gun on Darlene Love?
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Reply #26 posted 04/13/09 3:42pm

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RipHer2Shreds said:

Anyway he looks like Marcia Clark in this photo lol




OMG falloff




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Reply #27 posted 04/13/09 3:54pm

Timmy84

uPtoWnNY said:

Timmy84 said:



Yeah. I'm sure Ronnie's glad she survived him. Mothafucka kept the poor girl locked in her own house for the tenure of their marriage. disbelief
[Edited 4/13/09 15:31pm]


Didn't this fool pull a gun on Darlene Love?


Yep.
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Reply #28 posted 04/13/09 4:01pm

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Joan Rivers had a great interview on Howard Stern once.
She said Phil was walking around at parties waving his gun at everybody.
John Lennon told Phil that Martin Scorsese used his "Be my little baby" song the Ronettes recorded in the opening scene of meanstreets without permission.
Phil never sued him or anything.
I like Spanish harlem too but the gun waving is pretty fucked up.
And he also pissed off Ike Turner.
smile
stoned That's some good shit!
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Reply #29 posted 04/13/09 4:01pm

2elijah

Good. He should have been in jail for that murder a long time ago.
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