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Thread started 05/18/09 1:51pm

MRGee

Do You Like Jamie Foxx As A Singer?

I think he's cool and I liked him singing GOLDDIGGER and this new song BLAME IT ON THE ALCOHOL. He was cool on ELLEn today. Any Jamie fans on here?
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Reply #1 posted 05/18/09 1:54pm

Graycap23

I dig Jamie as a talent when he is being true 2 the art.
This hiphop nonsense? No.
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Reply #2 posted 05/18/09 1:59pm

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- Not too bad but that not much greater than the male mainstream Rnb singers; his voice isn't that whiny
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Reply #3 posted 05/18/09 2:03pm

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I think Jamie, is a very talented singer. However one would never know this listening to the stuff that he has released. You should check out his 1994 released called, "Peep This". It was his debut CD and a very good one. Nobody is talking about it. I have had it for years and it is in heavy rotation on my Ipod.
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Reply #4 posted 05/18/09 2:09pm

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I despise Jamie as a singer. He is a much better piano player than anything. His recent liver performances have been horrid. He does not sing one note in tune. For a trained musician, he is horrible.
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Reply #5 posted 05/18/09 2:12pm

Graycap23

daPrettyman said:

I despise Jamie as a singer. He is a much better piano player than anything. His recent liver performances have been horrid. He does not sing one note in tune. For a trained musician, he is horrible.

He has been hanging around the hiphop circuit 2 loong. Jamie was a very good singer back in his San Diego days.
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Reply #6 posted 05/18/09 2:27pm

ernestsewell

He's absolutely horrible.
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Reply #7 posted 05/18/09 2:29pm

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Hell to the naw.
Andy is a four letter word.
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Reply #8 posted 05/18/09 3:28pm

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He does have a good singing voice, but I don't care for the music he does. It's too bland.
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Reply #9 posted 05/18/09 5:38pm

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daPrettyman said:

I despise Jamie as a singer. He is a much better piano player than anything. His recent liver performances have been horrid. He does not sing one note in tune. For a trained musician, he is horrible.

um, he does sing in tune. If you are not a singer or musician, though, it can't be expected that you would even know this, so your ignorance is forgiven.
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Reply #10 posted 05/18/09 5:43pm

Timmy84

I don't like the material he sings and I don't like how he makes his shit out to be real R&B when it's just like all that crap they CALL R&B, lol.
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Reply #11 posted 05/19/09 2:29am

missmad

not hip hoppy stuff but he was funny and can sing check out mary mary or f*ck you or ruining a new comic at a roast
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Reply #12 posted 05/19/09 2:48am

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I like Jamie's voice but he uses it to churn out shit, so I don't respect him as a music artist...

Every time I hear anything about his shitty songs I think back to when I first heard him sing - on stage @ the end of In Living Color singing "This Christmas" mushy & I do like the "Heaven" song he did for his daughter on the last album, but I can't bring myself to listen to his stuff, it's just too shitty sad
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Reply #13 posted 05/19/09 5:30am

mancabdriver

He's vile. Probably my least like celebrity.

His arrogance makes me want to punch him.
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Reply #14 posted 05/19/09 6:48am

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kenlacam said:

daPrettyman said:

I despise Jamie as a singer. He is a much better piano player than anything. His recent liver performances have been horrid. He does not sing one note in tune. For a trained musician, he is horrible.

um, he does sing in tune. If you are not a singer or musician, though, it can't be expected that you would even know this, so your ignorance is forgiven.

How do you know I'm not a musician?

I have been playing piano and keyboards since I was 8 years old. I KNOW MUSIC!!! I don't claim to be an expert, but I do know when someone is singing in tune.

Look at this horrible performance on Ellen and tell me he's singing in tune:


Jamie is always just a little off key on 90% of his performances (especially now). After watching his horrible performances on American Idol and Ellen, it makes me sad when people say he can sing. This "shit-hop" that Jamie is doing is strictly to make money and sell albums. His first album was ok and he did sing better then. When he hooked up with T-Pain and Kanye, all of his musical training went out of the door.

I will say that "Blame It" is a radio hit. It is catchy as hell and many people love it. Me, I find it annoying. Especially with all of the vocal effects.
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mancabdriver said:

He's vile. Probably my least like celebrity.

His arrogance makes me want to punch him.

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It's funny that people like MJ, Janet, Prince, Madonna, etc. always had a certain arrogance about them, but never were so arrogant with it. Today's new breed of celebrities are really bad about saying I'm the best. Kanye, Puff Daddy, Jamie, etc. are all total ass holes in this area.
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Reply #16 posted 05/19/09 6:51am

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I will say that "Blame It" is a radio hit. It is catchy as hell and many people love it. Me, I find it annoying. Especially with all of the vocal effects.

When u hang around the TONE death.....u become TONE death.
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Reply #17 posted 05/19/09 6:57am

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what does he besides singing?
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Reply #18 posted 05/19/09 7:01am

Graycap23

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what does he besides singing?

Comedian
Actor
Writer
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Reply #19 posted 05/19/09 7:05am

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Graycap23 said:

daPrettyman said:



I will say that "Blame It" is a radio hit. It is catchy as hell and many people love it. Me, I find it annoying. Especially with all of the vocal effects.

When u hang around the TONE death.....u become TONE death.

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graecophilos said:

what does he besides singing?

He had a popular television show in the 90s called The Jamie Foxx Show.



Before he had his own show, he was on In Living Color. Wanda was probably his most famous character.


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Reply #21 posted 05/19/09 7:34am

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Look at this horrible performance on Ellen and tell me he's singing in tune:


How can you speculate on whether he is off-key on this specific song when all we are hearing are his heavily autotuned vocals? That effect you are hearing is produced by overdoing the controls on Autotune, so that the voice becomes "warped" like that and produces those characteristic unnatural artefacts. That's intentional though, and by the way, the end-result is perfectly in tune due to the way the program (or the hardware unit) itself handles pitch-control. It's just that we are used to singers being a little bit naturally off -key and we don't notice it, it's impossible to hit the notes perfectly due to the way we handle the pronunciation of vowels (human singing is not like playing an instrument, ever). However, when you set Autotune to do drastic corrections like that - and omit certain notes from a scale - you get that type of a sound, regardless whether the singer manages to hit the correct notes or not. It wasn't what the units were originally designed for, but people ended up using them for that purpose too over the years.

Not saying that he's a great artist - well, this was one of the only pieces of music I've ever heard from him and it's pretty dysmal - but I don't understand why did you even choose a video like that to prove that "he cannot sing in tune". That would be like criticizing anyone who has used a vocoder or a talkbox back in the day for "not being able to sing". Perfectly possible, but it's not something you can tell just by being subjected to the effected vocals only.
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I think it is a matter of him knowing what sells and what doesn't. He knows that when it comes right down to it, that it's all about the money. The music that he started doing when he first appeared on the scene is not going to put as much money in his pocket as that "Blame It", shit. Look at this cut from his debut, "Peep This".... This is the type of music, he should have kept on doing....

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Reply #23 posted 05/19/09 7:59am

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novabrkr said:

daPrettyman said:


Look at this horrible performance on Ellen and tell me he's singing in tune:


How can you speculate on whether he is off-key on this specific song when all we are hearing are his heavily autotuned vocals? That effect you are hearing is produced by overdoing the controls on Autotune, so that the voice becomes "warped" like that and produces those characteristic unnatural artefacts. That's intentional though, and by the way, the end-result is perfectly in tune due to the way the program (or the hardware unit) itself handles pitch-control. It's just that we are used to singers being a little bit naturally off -key and we don't notice it, it's impossible to hit the notes perfectly due to the way we handle the pronunciation of vowels (human singing is not like playing an instrument, ever). However, when you set Autotune to do drastic corrections like that - and omit certain notes from a scale - you get that type of a sound, regardless whether the singer manages to hit the correct notes or not. It wasn't what the units were originally designed for, but people ended up using them for that purpose too over the years.

Not saying that he's a great artist - well, this was one of the only pieces of music I've ever heard from him and it's pretty dysmal - but I don't understand why did you even choose a video like that to prove that "he cannot sing in tune". That would be like criticizing anyone who has used a vocoder or a talkbox back in the day for "not being able to sing". Perfectly possible, but it's not something you can tell just by being subjected to the effected vocals only.

I picked that one because I just saw it yesterday on Ellen. However, you can take your pick.






The boy is not a good singer to me. He is just not a singer. He's a better musician.
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Reply #24 posted 05/19/09 8:01am

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I'm shocked that people actually like this mess.
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Reply #25 posted 05/19/09 8:02am

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shorttrini said:

I think it is a matter of him knowing what sells and what doesn't. He knows that when it comes right down to it, that it's all about the money. The music that he started doing when he first appeared on the scene is not going to put as much money in his pocket as that "Blame It", shit. Look at this cut from his debut, "Peep This".... This is the type of music, he should have kept on doing....


I agree with you on that. I didn't care for his first album, but the music fit his voice.

Jamie wanted to be a pop star and he has achieved that. If he keeps talking smack about little girls like Mylie Cyrus, he won't have a career. His movie flopped because of his rude comments.
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I'm shocked that people actually like this mess.[/quote]
It's a club song.

I think that it crossed over because of the video. Pop audiences accepted it because Ron Howard and Jake Gillenyhall were in the video. Not to mention pop music loves T-Pain now. I don't know why, though.

BTW, when is career going to end?
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Reply #27 posted 05/19/09 8:11am

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Graycap23 said:



I'm shocked that people actually like this mess.

It's a club song.

I think that it crossed over because of the video. Pop audiences accepted it because Ron Howard and Jake Gillenyhall were in the video. Not to mention pop music loves T-Pain now. I don't know why, though.

BTW, when is career going to end?[/quote]
Lol.....peoples taste buds are just beyond me. This song is garbage no matter where u play or hear it. And T-pain is a pain in my backside.
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Graycap23 said:

daPrettyman said:


It's a club song.

I think that it crossed over because of the video. Pop audiences accepted it because Ron Howard and Jake Gillenyhall were in the video. Not to mention pop music loves T-Pain now. I don't know why, though.

BTW, when is career going to end?

Lol.....peoples taste buds are just beyond me. This song is garbage no matter where u play or hear it. And T-pain is a pain in my backside.

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Reply #29 posted 05/19/09 8:19am

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I don't hear him being particularly more off-key on either of those clips than any average singer would be when singing in big halls (especially the falsetto parts) - Alicia Keys too has been adopting that "style" more lately it seems. But I guess I can see the point though, he is not confident enough with his voice and tries to be a better singer than what he actually is. So it sounds exactly like what it is: someone who would probably not get a major record deal and get exposed to a wider public were he not a celebrity to begin with. Professional singers have been singing all through their lives, whereas someone like him could not have just simply dedicated enough time to hone his voice on a daily basis, so it has stuck to that almost-there-but-not-quite -territory. You're not either going to be able to improve on such things too much after you're past 30 years of age or so.

The first clip, btw, started sort of promising but evolved into... uhm, I don't what that was supposed to have been. lol
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