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Earth Wind & Fire - Betcha'

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Reply #1 posted 05/14/09 12:39am

SoulAlive

Nice song music

'The Promise' is a very satisfying EW&F album.Some great songs on there."Never","All In The Way" and "Where Do We Go From Here" are my favorites.The only complaint is,there are perhaps too many slow songs,but if you get the Japanese import,you get two bonus tracks that are uptempo and extremely funky.It balances out the album much better.
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Reply #2 posted 05/14/09 7:30am

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I LOVE THIS SONG!!!!

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Reply #3 posted 05/14/09 12:07pm

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SoulAlive said:

Nice song music

'The Promise' is a very satisfying EW&F album.Some great songs on there."Never","All In The Way" and "Where Do We Go From Here" are my favorites.The only complaint is,there are perhaps too many slow songs,but if you get the Japanese import,you get two bonus tracks that are uptempo and extremely funky.It balances out the album much better.


Yes you're exactly right. When it was released the critics stated
that on this album that EWF had figured it out. Fans wanted the
classic EWF sound instead of trying to sound contemporary or be
something they weren't. Just like you stated the only complaint from
the critics were that the album was ballad heavy but in hindsight
you got classic EWF. I actually thought that this was their best
release since powerlight and touch the world.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #4 posted 05/15/09 2:11am

SoulAlive

phunkdaddy said:

SoulAlive said:

Nice song music

'The Promise' is a very satisfying EW&F album.Some great songs on there."Never","All In The Way" and "Where Do We Go From Here" are my favorites.The only complaint is,there are perhaps too many slow songs,but if you get the Japanese import,you get two bonus tracks that are uptempo and extremely funky.It balances out the album much better.


Yes you're exactly right. When it was released the critics stated
that on this album that EWF had figured it out. Fans wanted the
classic EWF sound instead of trying to sound contemporary or be
something they weren't. Just like you stated the only complaint from
the critics were that the album was ballad heavy but in hindsight
you got classic EWF. I actually thought that this was their best
release since powerlight and touch the world.


Yeah,this album captures the classic EW&F sound.If I didn't know better,I would swear that the opening track "All In The Way" is an old outtake from 1977.It's got that classic 70s EW&F sound,with the horns and The Emotions on background vocals.It would have fit perfectly on 'I Am'.In fact,one song really is an outtake from that period: "Where Do We Go From Here" was recorded in 1978 during the 'I Am' sessions.If you listen closely,you can see that it features Philip's original vocals from 1978.He didn't even bother to record a new updated vocal.They updated the music slightly,but it still sounds like a late-70s track.
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Reply #5 posted 05/15/09 8:51am

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SoulAlive said:

phunkdaddy said:



Yes you're exactly right. When it was released the critics stated
that on this album that EWF had figured it out. Fans wanted the
classic EWF sound instead of trying to sound contemporary or be
something they weren't. Just like you stated the only complaint from
the critics were that the album was ballad heavy but in hindsight
you got classic EWF. I actually thought that this was their best
release since powerlight and touch the world.


Yeah,this album captures the classic EW&F sound.If I didn't know better,I would swear that the opening track "All In The Way" is an old outtake from 1977.It's got that classic 70s EW&F sound,with the horns and The Emotions on background vocals.It would have fit perfectly on 'I Am'.In fact,one song really is an outtake from that period: "Where Do We Go From Here" was recorded in 1978 during the 'I Am' sessions.If you listen closely,you can see that it features Philip's original vocals from 1978.He didn't even bother to record a new updated vocal.They updated the music slightly,but it still sounds like a late-70s track.


The song "Dirty" with Jr. Wells is also from that "I Am" period. They even used it again on the reissue.
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Reply #6 posted 05/18/09 6:03am

SoulAlive

daPrettyman said:

SoulAlive said:



Yeah,this album captures the classic EW&F sound.If I didn't know better,I would swear that the opening track "All In The Way" is an old outtake from 1977.It's got that classic 70s EW&F sound,with the horns and The Emotions on background vocals.It would have fit perfectly on 'I Am'.In fact,one song really is an outtake from that period: "Where Do We Go From Here" was recorded in 1978 during the 'I Am' sessions.If you listen closely,you can see that it features Philip's original vocals from 1978.He didn't even bother to record a new updated vocal.They updated the music slightly,but it still sounds like a late-70s track.


The song "Dirty" with Jr. Wells is also from that "I Am" period. They even used it again on the reissue.


That's correct,and there's also the song "Diana" from the 'I Am' sessions too.I've always had this weird theory that EW&F have an unreleased album from 1978 that they never finished lol I'm thinking that they started an album in 1978,but got sidetracked by a few other major projects...

*The 'Best of' album released in the fall of that year (featuring two new songs)
*constant touring
*Their involvement in the 'Sgt.Peppers' movie and soundtrack

lol this is just wishful thinking on my part (lol) but imagine if there really is a "lost" album from 1978,containing stuff like....

September
Love Music
Diana
Got To Get You Into My Life
Where Do We Go From Here
Dirty
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Reply #7 posted 05/18/09 7:48am

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SoulAlive said:

daPrettyman said:



The song "Dirty" with Jr. Wells is also from that "I Am" period. They even used it again on the reissue.


That's correct,and there's also the song "Diana" from the 'I Am' sessions too.I've always had this weird theory that EW&F have an unreleased album from 1978 that they never finished lol I'm thinking that they started an album in 1978,but got sidetracked by a few other major projects...

*The 'Best of' album released in the fall of that year (featuring two new songs)
*constant touring
*Their involvement in the 'Sgt.Peppers' movie and soundtrack

lol this is just wishful thinking on my part (lol) but imagine if there really is a "lost" album from 1978,containing stuff like....

September
Love Music
Diana
Got To Get You Into My Life
Where Do We Go From Here
Dirty


Diana was on the reissue of I Am. I love that period from EWF.
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Reply #8 posted 05/18/09 9:08am

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Great info yall ... thanks for sharing !
"Betcha" is an awesome breezy groove with spherish guitar-fills, and man, when Philip takes it higher towards the end.
I also remember getting chills when hearing "Where Do We Go From Here" for the first time, while reading in the linernotes about its history :



Yeah, and "All In The Way" is a slammin' intro track exclaim





A few more faves of mine from "The Promise"

"Let Me Love You"




"All About Love" (featuring The Emotions)

The sudden break/bridge towards the end of the track is very cool, and just like "You And I", this is another example of 2 different EW&F-tracks with the same title, lol.



"Suppose You Like Me" ( collaboration with the late Robert Brookins rose dove )



After this great album , i saw them perform a few times but they never performed anything from "The Promise" unfortunately.
Only one time i saw them play "All In The Way" at The Morning Show (from ABC ? / NBC ?), and even Maurice joined the stage.
That was a special moment to witness, and he told that his condition was stable.
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Reply #9 posted 05/20/09 6:35am

SoulAlive

yeah,"Where Do We Go From Here" gives me chills,too.It's interesting that they kept it in the vaults all those years!! It's a SUPERB track,one of their best.If they didn't wanna use it for 'I Am',they should have at least placed it on 'Faces',where it would have been a definite highlight.

I would love to hear the original 1978 version.
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Reply #10 posted 05/20/09 10:05am

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Shango said:

Great info yall ... thanks for sharing !
"Betcha" is an awesome breezy groove with spherish guitar-fills, and man, when Philip takes it higher towards the end.
I also remember getting chills when hearing "Where Do We Go From Here" for the first time, while reading in the linernotes about its history :



Yeah, and "All In The Way" is a slammin' intro track exclaim





A few more faves of mine from "The Promise"

"Let Me Love You"




"All About Love" (featuring The Emotions)

The sudden break/bridge towards the end of the track is very cool, and just like "You And I", this is another example of 2 different EW&F-tracks with the same title, lol.



"Suppose You Like Me" ( collaboration with the late Robert Brookins rose dove )



After this great album , i saw them perform a few times but they never performed anything from "The Promise" unfortunately.
Only one time i saw them play "All In The Way" at The Morning Show (from ABC ? / NBC ?), and even Maurice joined the stage.
That was a special moment to witness, and he told that his condition was stable.
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I also like She Waits in addition to these songs. More impressive were
the slick interludes throughout the album that makes this a true
EWF album. IMO as far as old school artists who have made albums this
decade this is the best bar none.
Don't laugh at my funk
This funk is a serious joint
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Reply #11 posted 05/21/09 2:44am

Shango

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SoulAlive said:

yeah,"Where Do We Go From Here" gives me chills,too.It's interesting that they kept it in the vaults all those years!! It's a SUPERB track,one of their best.If they didn't wanna use it for 'I Am',they should have at least placed it on 'Faces',where it would have been a definite highlight.

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I would love to hear the original 1978 version.

Me too , lol !
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Reply #12 posted 05/21/09 3:56am

Shango

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phunkdaddy said:

I also like She Waits in addition to these songs.

Yeah, "She Waits" s a deep cut, though i listened more to the first mix by Tommy Sims, from his "Peace & Love" album around 2000 :



phunkdaddy sad:


More impressive were the slick interludes throughout the album that makes this a true EWF album.
IMO as far as old school artists who have made albums thisdecade this is the best bar none.

highfive Right on exclaim
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Reply #13 posted 05/24/09 7:56pm

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Shango said:

Great info yall ... thanks for sharing !
"Betcha" is an awesome breezy groove with spherish guitar-fills, and man, when Philip takes it higher towards the end.
I also remember getting chills when hearing "Where Do We Go From Here" for the first time, while reading in the linernotes about its history :



Yeah, and "All In The Way" is a slammin' intro track exclaim





A few more faves of mine from "The Promise"

"Let Me Love You"




"All About Love" (featuring The Emotions)

The sudden break/bridge towards the end of the track is very cool, and just like "You And I", this is another example of 2 different EW&F-tracks with the same title, lol.



"Suppose You Like Me" ( collaboration with the late Robert Brookins rose dove )



After this great album , i saw them perform a few times but they never performed anything from "The Promise" unfortunately.
Only one time i saw them play "All In The Way" at The Morning Show (from ABC ? / NBC ?), and even Maurice joined the stage.
That was a special moment to witness, and he told that his condition was stable.
[Edited 5/18/09 9:32am]

I bought this Cd when it first came out and it was high as hell I paid $20.00 for it! I didn't wanna download their music cause I like EWF. I slid down the wall in the store with morning sickness but I got my damn cd. I sure wished I could have seen Maurice perform with them; I heard he was confined to a wheelchair most of the time. I did go to their concert and it was pretty good. You could hear those horns blaring out loud. Their album after this one is also good too. I believe it's called Illumination...I used to belong to a Maurice White's group and he would keep us updated on EWF projects, but I can't find that link for shit! My kid has the same birthday as him...LOL! Maurice was never a looker but I remember those tights he used to were back in the 70's onstage.
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Reply #14 posted 05/24/09 9:09pm

SoulAlive

You're probably referring to startalk.org,the Maurice White forum.I used to post there regularly too.He answered a few of my questions lol I heard that he now has a myspace page and is planning a solo album and an EW&F coffee table book with rare photos.
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Reply #15 posted 05/25/09 6:45am

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Reply #16 posted 06/09/09 4:59am

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SoulAlive said:

You're probably referring to startalk.org,the Maurice White forum.I used to post there regularly too.He answered a few of my questions lol I heard that he now has a myspace page and is planning a solo album and an EW&F coffee table book with rare photos.


The site is back up again http://www.startalk.org/forum/index.php
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Reply #17 posted 06/09/09 5:01am

SoulAlive

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SoulAlive said:

You're probably referring to startalk.org,the Maurice White forum.I used to post there regularly too.He answered a few of my questions lol I heard that he now has a myspace page and is planning a solo album and an EW&F coffee table book with rare photos.


The site is back up again http://www.startalk.org/forum/index.php


cool!
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Reply #18 posted 06/09/09 10:37am

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TD3 said:

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Wut'chu lurkin at ? lol
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