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report345

Mariah Carey's new film bombs

I thimk she should just retire now. The marriage to Nick Cannon, a huge publicity stunt in my opinion, only hurt her image.

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Reply #1 posted 06/08/09 12:44pm

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I think it's safe to say that movies just aren't her thing. Glitter. lol She shoulda learned from the first time.
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Reply #2 posted 06/08/09 12:46pm

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1st: She can't act
2nd: her movie material is weak
3rd: She can't act.
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Reply #3 posted 06/08/09 1:29pm

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Graycap23 said:

1st: She can't act
2nd: her movie material is weak
3rd: She can't act.


4th: She is shit. Only gay bitter queens care about her.
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Reply #4 posted 06/08/09 1:33pm

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graecophilos said:

Graycap23 said:

1st: She can't act
2nd: her movie material is weak
3rd: She can't act.


4th: She is shit. Only gay bitter queens care about her.

I was trying 2 be nice.
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Reply #5 posted 06/08/09 1:41pm

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Well, she got great reviews for her role in Precious.
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Reply #6 posted 06/08/09 2:10pm

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Graycap23 said:

1st: He can't act
2nd: His movie material is weak
3rd: He can't act.

hmmm Deja vu
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Reply #7 posted 06/08/09 2:17pm

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What does this writer have against Mariah anyway? All he does is talk shit about her and put her down every time he has a chance. BTW, what would you expect from an indie film that barely got any distribution, virtually no publicity, and only played on 15 screens? It's one thing to talk about her box office numbers, but then to go on and talk crap about her marriage to Nick Cannon is just catty. mad

BTW, even with those poor numbers, it still did better than one of Jessica Simpson's starring-role movies.

http://www.longtail.com/t...mpson.html

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Reply #8 posted 06/08/09 2:25pm

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graecophilos said:

Graycap23 said:

1st: She can't act
2nd: her movie material is weak
3rd: She can't act.


4th: She is shit. Only gay bitter queens care about her.

Again, from one who is all up on Kanye's nuts, or at least wants to be. Ironical! lol
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Reply #9 posted 06/08/09 2:26pm

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I'm curious to know how Janet Jackson expected to pull this off? Janet as a Country singer???
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Reply #10 posted 06/08/09 2:30pm

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she had a new movie?
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Reply #11 posted 06/08/09 2:54pm

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728huey said:

What does this writer have against Mariah anyway? All he does is talk shit about her and put her down every time he has a chance. BTW, what would you expect from an indie film that barely got any distribution, virtually no publicity, and only played on 15 screens? It's one thing to talk about her box office numbers, but then to go on and talk crap about her marriage to Nick Cannon is just catty. mad

BTW, even with those poor numbers, it still did better than one of Jessica Simpson's starring-role movies.

http://www.longtail.com/t...mpson.html

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I heard she is GREAT in Precious
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Reply #12 posted 06/08/09 3:41pm

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SCNDLS said:

graecophilos said:



4th: She is shit. Only gay bitter queens care about her.

Again, from one who is all up on Kanye's nuts, or at least wants to be. Ironical! lol


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Reply #13 posted 06/08/09 3:43pm

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report345 said:

I thimk she should just retire now. The marriage to Nick Cannon, a huge publicity stunt in my opinion, only hurt her image.

http://www.examiner.com/e...nd-Glitter


Your opinion seems to not be holding water re: the marriage.

Retiring from what? Singing? It's not a musical, to my knowledge, so how does retiring from singing have anything to do w/ a bad movie? And if her marriage is a publicity stunt, what is the publicity for? Just to keep her name out there? She's not like those hacks Spencer and Heidi who have NOTHING to show for being "famous". Publicity generates interest in a person or an event (like a movie). So if she got married.....what is it she was getting publicity for, and why hasn't she gotten divorced yet? Is the "stunt" over yet? Is it a more long term, drawn out, pre-planned six point stunt?

Plus, I've seen NO promotion for the movie AT ALL. I don't even see the trailer on my AppleTV, and they update those trailers very regularly, and EARLY. "UP" was on there last fall. Star Trek was on there a year before its release. NO trailer for her movie. If it opened to just over $600 per screen, that's the movie company's fault. Not saying the movie isn't bad, but if the movie company didn't even believe in it, why not send it straight to DVD instead and sweep it under the rug a la Jessica Simpson's Blond Ambition?
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Reply #14 posted 06/08/09 3:44pm

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graecophilos said:

SCNDLS said:


Again, from one who is all up on Kanye's nuts, or at least wants to be. Ironical! lol


razz

lol
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Reply #15 posted 06/08/09 3:49pm

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728huey said:

What does this writer have against Mariah anyway? All he does is talk shit about her and put her down every time he has a chance. BTW, what would you expect from an indie film that barely got any distribution, virtually no publicity, and only played on 15 screens? It's one thing to talk about her box office numbers, but then to go on and talk crap about her marriage to Nick Cannon is just catty. mad

BTW, even with those poor numbers, it still did better than one of Jessica Simpson's starring-role movies.

http://www.longtail.com/t...mpson.html

typing


How is this Mariah's movie??? its so movie how when movies dont do well no one ever looks at things like....

How Many theaters is it in
Also what is the average $$$ it is making where it's playing
(the reason this is an issue, is because that people see low numbers and think bomb for anything, but when you break down $$ per screen you find the opposite with alot of what we call bombs)
And if the movie sucks per say, how is it her fault??? she has nothing to do with anything except her part, blame the writers, the director, the cinematography, Mariah is not even on the list of people to blame if this movie sucks. so this article is MEANINGLESS.

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Reply #16 posted 06/08/09 3:53pm

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lastdecember said:

728huey said:

What does this writer have against Mariah anyway? All he does is talk shit about her and put her down every time he has a chance. BTW, what would you expect from an indie film that barely got any distribution, virtually no publicity, and only played on 15 screens? It's one thing to talk about her box office numbers, but then to go on and talk crap about her marriage to Nick Cannon is just catty. mad

BTW, even with those poor numbers, it still did better than one of Jessica Simpson's starring-role movies.

http://www.longtail.com/t...mpson.html

typing




How is this Mariah's movie??? its so movie how when movies dont do well no one ever looks at things like....

How Many theaters is it in
Also what is the average $$$ it is making where it's playing
(the reason this is an issue, is because that people see low numbers and think bomb for anything, but when you break down $$ per screen you find the opposite with alot of what we call bombs)
And if the movie sucks per say, how is it her fault??? she has nothing to do with anything except her part, blame the writers, the director, the cinematography, Mariah is not even on the list of people to blame if this movie sucks. so this article is MEANINGLESS.



yeah, and that's why Madonna is the best actress ever. She just had bad directors and writers and cutters and camera men etc.
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Reply #17 posted 06/08/09 4:53pm

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graecophilos said:

lastdecember said:





How is this Mariah's movie??? its so movie how when movies dont do well no one ever looks at things like....

How Many theaters is it in
Also what is the average $$$ it is making where it's playing
(the reason this is an issue, is because that people see low numbers and think bomb for anything, but when you break down $$ per screen you find the opposite with alot of what we call bombs)
And if the movie sucks per say, how is it her fault??? she has nothing to do with anything except her part, blame the writers, the director, the cinematography, Mariah is not even on the list of people to blame if this movie sucks. so this article is MEANINGLESS.



yeah, and that's why Madonna is the best actress ever. She just had bad directors and writers and cutters and camera men etc.


So wait U think that good acting translates into $$$ at the box office? you are kidding with that right??? The worst actors and actresses bring in the most box office by tradition.

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Reply #18 posted 06/08/09 5:31pm

report345

I"ve actually seen Precious. What an excellent movie! Mariah Carey is great in it, but it's a very small role. Mariah seems to be trying to make "Precious" her movie and it's NOT. Still, she is good in it but you can't call it a "star turn" because it's just a bit part.
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Reply #19 posted 06/08/09 5:36pm

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ernestsewell said:

report345 said:

I thimk she should just retire now. The marriage to Nick Cannon, a huge publicity stunt in my opinion, only hurt her image.

http://www.examiner.com/e...nd-Glitter


Your opinion seems to not be holding water re: the marriage.

Retiring from what? Singing? It's not a musical, to my knowledge, so how does retiring from singing have anything to do w/ a bad movie? And if her marriage is a publicity stunt, what is the publicity for? Just to keep her name out there? She's not like those hacks Spencer and Heidi who have NOTHING to show for being "famous". Publicity generates interest in a person or an event (like a movie). So if she got married.....what is it she was getting publicity for, and why hasn't she gotten divorced yet? Is the "stunt" over yet? Is it a more long term, drawn out, pre-planned six point stunt?

Plus, I've seen NO promotion for the movie AT ALL. I don't even see the trailer on my AppleTV, and they update those trailers very regularly, and EARLY. "UP" was on there last fall. Star Trek was on there a year before its release. NO trailer for her movie. If it opened to just over $600 per screen, that's the movie company's fault. Not saying the movie isn't bad, but if the movie company didn't even believe in it, why not send it straight to DVD instead and sweep it under the rug a la Jessica Simpson's Blond Ambition?


nod I agree. If she got married for publicity, why the hell did she marry Nick Cannon? Who the fuck is Nick Cannon?!?!? She had Derek Jeter and supposedly Eminem, and she went with Nick Cannon...to get publicity?
spit falloff lol Man, that's hilarity at it's finest right there. He's not even on her level; never has been and never will be, so that's what actually makes me think that she probably genuinely loves his goofy ass. rolleyes Oh well, he's a whole lot better than that chocolate, gap-toothed troll that Janet insists on dating and allowing to jack up her music. C'mon Janet, is there really no one else...really, no one?

But anyway, if the movie wasn't getting publicity, of course it's not going to do well. Nowadays, people have to see a movie trailer every hour to even be interested in a film and big names don't always bring in moviegoers. If the movie doesn't have any special effects or a shitload of press, it's probably going to bomb no matter how good it is. I watched 'A Mighty Heart' with Angelina Jolie in it and even though the movie was a box office flop, it was extremely good, but "Wanted" broke box office records on it's opening weekend and the plot was weak as hell and the acting wasn't anything spectacular, but the special effects were excellent. People who use box-office numbers to classify a film as being good or bad seem to be the same type of people who use the Billboard charts to determine whether an album is good or bad. Just because numbers are high, doesn't always mean it's great. Just my twocents
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Reply #20 posted 06/08/09 5:42pm

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graecophilos said:

lastdecember said:





How is this Mariah's movie??? its so movie how when movies dont do well no one ever looks at things like....

How Many theaters is it in
Also what is the average $$$ it is making where it's playing
(the reason this is an issue, is because that people see low numbers and think bomb for anything, but when you break down $$ per screen you find the opposite with alot of what we call bombs)
And if the movie sucks per say, how is it her fault??? she has nothing to do with anything except her part, blame the writers, the director, the cinematography, Mariah is not even on the list of people to blame if this movie sucks. so this article is MEANINGLESS.



yeah, and that's why Madonna is the best actress ever. She just had bad directors and writers and cutters and camera men etc.


Madonna is really good at playing Madonna, which is the problem, because acting usually involves...well, acting like someone else. I don't care what anybody says, I still absolutely love "Who's That Girl?" and "Desperately Seeking Susan", even though she's just playing herself. The best acting she's done outside of playing herself was in 'Evita'. She's still a way better actress than Jessica Simpson in my opinion...that poor child couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag even if she was holding a pair of scissors.
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Reply #21 posted 06/08/09 6:28pm

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lastdecember said:

728huey said:

What does this writer have against Mariah anyway? All he does is talk shit about her and put her down every time he has a chance. BTW, what would you expect from an indie film that barely got any distribution, virtually no publicity, and only played on 15 screens? It's one thing to talk about her box office numbers, but then to go on and talk crap about her marriage to Nick Cannon is just catty. mad

BTW, even with those poor numbers, it still did better than one of Jessica Simpson's starring-role movies.

http://www.longtail.com/t...mpson.html

typing


How is this Mariah's movie??? its so movie how when movies dont do well no one ever looks at things like....

How Many theaters is it in
Also what is the average $$$ it is making where it's playing
(the reason this is an issue, is because that people see low numbers and think bomb for anything, but when you break down $$ per screen you find the opposite with alot of what we call bombs)

And if the movie sucks per say, how is it her fault??? she has nothing to do with anything except her part, blame the writers, the director, the cinematography, Mariah is not even on the list of people to blame if this movie sucks. so this article is MEANINGLESS.


That's what I was thinking. You have to put all of these factors into perspective. To me, she is a horrible actress, but her last few projects have either been straight to dvd or open in limited release.

I really don't think she is picking the right parts. Come on, Mariah, Whitney, Janet, etc. are all bad actresses. Sure, Whitney had some blockbuster movies, but she played herself in all of them. Same for Janet.

I think Mariah is acting just for fun. I don't think it's about making money or having blockbusters.
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lastdecember said:

graecophilos said:




yeah, and that's why Madonna is the best actress ever. She just had bad directors and writers and cutters and camera men etc.


So wait U think that good acting translates into $$$ at the box office? you are kidding with that right??? The worst actors and actresses bring in the most box office by tradition.



Just asak Angelina Jolie; played out tired non actin ass. Oooh...chile from Tomb Raider to Mr. And Ms. Smith I cant stand her ass no more.
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Reply #23 posted 06/08/09 6:56pm

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THIS IS NOT HER NEW MOVIE HER NEW MOVIE IS CALLED "PRECIOUS".






THE MOVIE THAT BOMBED IS CALLED 'TENNESSEE" AND ITS A HORRIBLE FILM, BUT SHE IS ACTUALLY GOOD IN HER NEW FILM


CLICK HERE TO WATCH CLIP:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...KVqrkRoy78
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tat2s said:

THIS IS NOT HER NEW MOVIE HER NEW MOVIE IS CALLED "PRECIOUS".






THE MOVIE THAT BOMBED IS CALLED 'TENNESSEE" AND ITS A HORRIBLE FILM, BUT SHE IS ACTUALLY GOOD IN HER NEW FILM


CLICK HERE TO WATCH CLIP:

http://www.youtube.com/wa...KVqrkRoy78

Tennessee opened this weekend in limited release. Precious is not out yet.
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Reply #25 posted 06/08/09 7:22pm

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she had a new movie?

EXACTLY! lol I had no idea. (Not that I'm gonna see it anyway.)

Perhaps the biggest issue in this failure has been poor promotion?
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Reply #26 posted 06/08/09 7:55pm

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I love Mariah. She just needs some more acting lessons and needs to learn how not to be Mimi 24/7.


7 years from now she will be nominated for a Golden Globe.
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graecophilos said:




yeah, and that's why Madonna is the best actress ever. She just had bad directors and writers and cutters and camera men etc.


Madonna is really good at playing Madonna, which is the problem, because acting usually involves...well, acting like someone else. I don't care what anybody says, I still absolutely love "Who's That Girl?" and "Desperately Seeking Susan", even though she's just playing herself. The best acting she's done outside of playing herself was in 'Evita'. She's still a way better actress than Jessica Simpson in my opinion...that poor child couldn't act her way out of a wet paper bag even if she was holding a pair of scissors.

Madonna is really deplorable as an actress to the point that it's hilarious. I remember on her guest spot on Will and Grace that she was totally overacting then at one point she actually broke character and laughed during her lines. WTF???? Her shit had to have been jacked up for them to keep that take. lol
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EXACTLY! lol I had no idea. (Not that I'm gonna see it anyway.)

Perhaps the biggest issue in this failure has been poor promotion?


it's a small lee daniels project (as producer) that was made a while before Precious.

the reviews it's gotten so far are actually pretty decent, but it's taken them a while to finally be able to put it out.
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Reply #29 posted 06/08/09 8:10pm

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The film only played to selected theaters, how can that be a bomb?
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