PANDURITO said:

hellz no..i failz algbra 9 times.

graecophilos said:

Ms Perry was one of the nicest racks I've seen in a while.

Gaga seems the genuine article in the fact she seemed to of grafted for a few years and has co-written songs for others. Seems abit aloof in interviews, but maybe thats part of her schtick or whatever.

Still, as irritating as it was/is, "I kissed a girl" was damned catchy. And those breasts

thesexofit said:

I agree Girl and Hot'n'Cold are catchy, but I dislike Perry anyway. I don't know how much she's involved in her music.

She just reminds me of that Skater Boy singer with the green shirt. Not the style but that girl was praised and stuff but she had nothing else to offer.

For me, GaGa is much smarter. She knows how to market herself. I can tell you what GaGa's style is, but what about Katy?

Also I think GaGa is more artistically and her sexual lyrics are less obvious. I had to listen carefully (I'm not a native speaker).

Perry's songs are obvious, You're So Gay You Don't Even Know It, I Kissed A Girl... all supposed to be shocking and stuff.

But the style is missing.

graecophilos said:

Not pretty? Really?

Rogue588 said:

yeah, I think so. She's not a conventional beauty. Somehow she looks a biz dumby, I don't wanna be mean. She's just not in that Britney Spears/Linday Lohan league, she certainly ain't perfect or whatever.

But I don't care. The biggest pop stars aren't conventional beauties, but they have/had style (Madonna, MJ, Elton, Beatles, Freddie Mercury, Kanye). You know what I mean?

i'm not sure what their looks have to do with their talent but whatever..

InsatiableCream said:

oh man, of course it's not allowed to talk bout their looks, right?

Next time we talk about their song's chord progression and who uses the most chliched ones...

I think Lady Gaga has more talent as a songwriter and a live performer...
Katy Perry seems like she's more of a "product" than Lady GaGa... Lady Gaga has been on the club scene in NYC for a few years while Katy Perry was doing Christian pop music a few years before going all "slutty" on us...

As far her their other "talents", I think Katy's easier on the eyes (especially when it comes to her pretty face and lovely boobs), but Lady Gaga is a kind of unconventional beauty in some ways plus she has a great ass.
I think Ms. Perry is a case of a sexy tease who's actually a prude in real life, while Lady Gaga seems like a bonafide sexual freak. She can ride my disco stick any time.

They both write their own music; I think they both play at least one instrument; and they are both totally unoriginal and really aren't all that amazing. I don't love or hate either of them. They both sit in that little gray area where they teeter until they do something that pushes them to either the love side or the hate side. At the moment, I have to go with Katy because I'm getting bored and annoyed with the whole Lady Gaga 'persona'...actually I was bored with it after seeing the 'Just Dance' video for the fourth time. My vote will go to Katy as long as she isn't talking...oh my god she's soo annoying in interviews that I just want to trip her down a flight of stairs.

Rogue588 said:

I'm sorry, but she's not pretty at all to me. She's a Monet like Paris Hilton. She looks fine from far away, but the moment you get a close up, it's a big, hot mess in an elaborate and gaudy outfit. Honestly, I think all the costumes are meant to distract people from the fact that she's far from being a beauty queen. Just my

graecophilos said:

the thread's about which one has more talent yet people are comparing looks. just saying.

well they are both song writers no? they both sing about getting it on with girls no? they both are scary pasty white no? they both have an ever growing fan base of teen girl no? so um...they are basically the same only with different stylists.

talent is subjective and therefore can't really be judged.

Hmmm I'll go with Lady Gaga cause she might be the one to kick Britney Spears out and send her ass packing

Plus i'm feeling the whole not pagent virgin queen look. Every White female pop star instead of standing out became a no-talent spear clone

And everyone has influences!!!!!

I also like Katy perry for the same reason. It's time for a change.

estelle81 said:

co-sign. I'd also like to note that Gaga's pretentiousness is annoying, and makes me dislike her.

InsatiableCream said:

I'm talking about imagenery. And that's a huge factor in pop music. Being able to market your whole persona is important and talent not only refers to musical skills. It's about having style, selling yourself to the public.

Btw, I didn't start the looks discussion.

ehuffnsd said:

and what's your subjective opinion?

estelle81 said:

yep, I agree.

But I do like her ten times better than Shitney or stuff. The thing is: She's not really a teen idol. Therefore the whole physical image thing is bilateral. Like Kanye. He has style, but apparently most of you think he's ugly. But noone cares because he doesn't have to connect with 12 yo girls.

Btw, good looks just distract from the music. You don't have to be a super model to be a good popstar.

Britney, for me, is a doll. Someone discovered her because she looked hot, young and fuckable. She was pushed, she got singing and dance lessons because Jive records could see her commercial potential.

But she's got no talent whatsoever.

GaGa wasn't forced or pushed by anyone. She wanted to make music since she's a teenager.

And yes, she is no potential beauty. And yes, her costumes have to distract from her face. I don't find her body that hot at all. Sometimes it's near the borderline to looking unpleasantly.

ehuffnsd said:

well that's sort of the definition of "subjective"... how each person judges something.

GaGa without make-up or flamboyant fashion

http://unterhaltung.t-onl...large.html

graecophilos said:

Eeek ipecac! I would never have recognised her.

^ what is ipecac ?

Dewrede said:

It's an emetic syrup that comes from a plant and is used to induce vomiting.

estelle81 said:

Has it ever occurred to anyone that GaGa isn't trying to be "pretty"?

VoicesCarry said:

She is pretty.....pretty ugly. (just kidding).....sort of

graecophilos said:

I would say Katy is very much a conventional beauty.

I think she (Katy) has that 1950s conservative pretty girl look. OFFTURNING as hell.

VoicesCarry said:

I think she tries or she wants to be.

graecophilos said:

Her sartorial model may be the 50's pinup girl, but she also conforms to contemporary standards of beauty.