Harlepolis said:

Yeah I favor the Marvelettes, Velvelettes & Martha and the Vandellas BEFORE the Supremes ANY TIME. That said, they had great songs, you can't deny THAT, lol. But you got a point about the group losing it after Flo was kicked off though they still had some great moments afterwards (especially after Diana "left").

I could have gone my entire life without hearing Blaque (one group that truly sucked), Allure and 3LW. A waste of time and space. Also, while Destiny's Child had a couple of cuts, (No, No, No Remix and Bills, Bills, Bills) I was not particularly fond of them either. Beyonce is much better on the solo tip.

On the other hand, I actually liked Xscape Just Kick It and Feels So Good were my jams.

Lovesexy82 said:

Oh yeah I forgot about Allure and 3LW and I could NEVER get into Destiny's Child anymore after 2000. Then I just couldn't stand none of their music. If I can go a day without hearing "say my name, say my name", I'm alright.

Anyone remember ....H-Town? Wasn't that two girls who sang "My Boo" ?

ernestsewell said:

I forget the name of the group (and maybe that's a good thing since they only had one hit) but I remember that song.

Timmy84 said:

Survivor and Independent Women are what really killed it for me. At that point, I could not wait for them to break up.

Lovesexy82 said:

GRRR and that got damn "Bootylicious" (someone has a screenname with that title, lol) song, God I wanted to take the plug out of my TV every time that video came on. The remix version only gnawed me even more. In fact all the songs they put out on "Survivor" sucked donkey balls.

Lovesexy82 said:

Um...that's Destiny's Child. You're thinking of Bugaboo or whatever that song was.

And I did find out who sang "My Boo". It was Ghost Town DJ's.

ernestsewell said:

Lord, you had to remind me. They were much like the Pussycat Dolls except they didn't have a non-singer trying to be the Diana/Beyonce in their group as the PCD do with Nicole Shamalaladingding. Plus were they even a group anyway? This was basically JD's song, lol.

OK I checked, apparently the group is actually three hip-hop male instrumentalists, these girls just sang on the track.
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You brought it back with that one^. I haven't heard that since middle school.

ehuffnsd said:

daPrettyman said:

I dug You Don't Know only because Karlin and Soulshock
put that bump on it.

Timmy84 said:

it's most famous member quit before they released their first album

Harlepolis said:

Totally disagree. The Supremes were the total package with or without
Ms.Ballard. Diana Ross was the straw that stirred the drink here.
Don't believe it. They were just another girls group without the boss.
They had a few minor hits like stone love, floy joy, and up the ladder
to the roof but none of these songs are memorable like the ones with
the boss. I like the Marvelettes and Martha & the Vandellas but once
the Supremes took off Motown knew where to invest their time and money.
The Marvelettes, Martha & the Vandellas fell like the stock market
and released a bunch of mediocre material after the Supremes reigned
Supreme.

Timmy84 said:

phunkdaddy said:

Honestly though Berry Gordy dropped the stock on the Marvelettes & the Vandellas. He didn't do much to promote their post-1964 material though they still had a good amount of hits during the Supremes' dominance b/w 1964 and 1967. It's interesting to note that Motown's hit material (along with the Supremes') dropped after Holland-Dozier-Holland departed in 1968. It's no slant against the Supremes but it did prove that sometimes you have to had a good backup team to help your career.

I do still feel they couldn't hang with the other Motown acts tho. But whatever Berry wanted, he got and boy did he ever. I like the Supremes, don't get me wrong. I've found myself drawn to FLO for example.

But I have to say when the Supremes did get red-hot, most of the other groups (some who were there when Motown started and those who jumped on the label just before the Supremes hit #1) did get relegated down to second-string material, which I thought was unfortunate. Fortunately Gladys Knight can say she left Motown with at least several hits despite their position there as she puts it. I mean by 1967, Motown was basically Diana Ross' label, lol, everyone else was just in it. Weird considering Motown's "family atmosphere" just a few years before that.
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phunkdaddy said:

DC don't even deserve to be in the great girl group column. Nothing stands out, there's no Dancing in the Street, no Stop! In the Name of Love, no Will You Love Me Tomorrow, no Be My Baby, no You'll Never Walk Alone, no Lady Marmalade, no Hold On, no Ain't Too Proud to Beg, nothing, lol.

Timmy84 said:

And that is the reason why they are prominently featured in this thread.

Lovesexy82 said:

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Timmy84 said:

Were you drawn to her beauty or talent?
Don't get me wrong i'm not saying Diana & the supremes were the best
act on Motown. Just the best female girls group. In saying that i feel Gladys
Knight was the best female singer on Motown period. Yes she would wipe Diana
across the floor. That wasn't lost on me.

phunkdaddy said:

Both.

No I know you're not saying they were the best act ever on the label (obviously there were better groups knowing how much talent was signed there, lol).

To be honest I felt even with them getting the short stick that the Marvelettes had some of the best songs on the label and they and the Vandellas had a street edge to them compared to the more-posh Supremes. I wouldn't call them the least favorite either but you get my point, I just prefer other groups but they had some fine material tho. So I'm not totally knocking them.

But you know what's odd? If the Marvelettes or the Vandellas got "Where Did Our Love Go" or "Stop! In the Name of Love", would we be talking about the Supremes now? I know "too little too late", but you still have to wonder, "what if", lol.
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Timmy84 said:

Oh yes the fortunes of these girl groups could have easily been reversed.
I agree especially about Martha & the Vandellas having more of a street
edge and the Marvelettes did their thing too. Speaking of underrated.
I don't think Smokey & the Miracles get enough credit. Smokey wrote and
produced a lot of material for Motown. By the Miracles second album he
was writing and producing their material and the other miracle members
were writing songs for themselves as well as the Temptations. Smokey
produced the Temptations 3rd album the Tempting Temptations and wrote
half of the songs on that album along with his Miracle group mates.
Man we bought to have a Motown party up in here.

phunkdaddy said:

I know. We all have Harley to thank for that.

Yeah the Miracles are definitely underrated, odd considering Berry & Smokey are best friends and shit, lol.

Timmy84 said:

The only 702 cuts I like were "Steelo" and the track they did with Subway "This Little Game We Play"

You notice how so many '90s girl groups were actually clones of TLC, En Vogue and SWV?
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daPrettyman said:

WHATTTT are you blind!!! They are HAWT!!!! Braxtons ooooohohohhhh

Timmy84 said:

Dang she is nice too.

Timmy84 said:

This is my favorite DC song (and it wasn't even a single).



My next favorite is the Live remix of Bills, Bills, Bills by Maurice Joshua (I couldn't find it either). I also liked the other house mix of the song.

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wunderlandmine said:

Only if u're smoking something.

The Braxton girls were horrible.