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Reply #60 posted 06/06/09 2:41pm

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CalhounSq said:

Byron said:

NONE of you guys knew Bobby Caldwell was white? lol smile...

Well hell, this song wasn't out in the video age lol & it was on the radio so much we didn't have the album, this is the first visual I'm seeing of the guy nod




Exactly especially since you heard this song on BLACK radio... I never heard it on top 40, not one time.

So it is easy that many people didn't know.
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Reply #61 posted 06/06/09 2:42pm

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SUPRMAN said:

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two points.

1.some songs are clearly cultural and soul music in particular is born out of black culture; therefore not everyone can sing certain songs and be taken seriously.

2.some songs are universal and depending on whether you have a soulful or nonsoulful voice, the song may still be a hit but with a different sound. IMO culture is not devoid of soul but soul can be devoid of culture.

Eminem versus Vanilla Ice is a perfect example of this I think. I mean which one was more believable as a rapper and of having STREET cred? Also Stevie Wonder's Wish has more to do with race cuz he's singing about growing up a poor black kid but how happy he still was. Otis's song was originally a gospel (black gospel) track.

Another example of cultural music would be Tejano. I don't think Stevie or Bobby could sing that type of music cuz they are not Mexicans from Texas and don't have that experience.


Don't know if folks know this about 'Sitting On the Dock of the Bay.' The whistling is there because Otis Redding never finished the song. He whistled to leave space to replace with lyrics. It was released as it was and ironically, it's the only complete version of the song.



Supraman, I didn't know this. You sure know your music trivia. biggrin
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Reply #62 posted 06/06/09 2:44pm

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AlexdeParis said:

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Rick Astley only had one hit right? I only see him occasionally when I get "Rick Rolled" lol


"Together Forever" was also a #1 hit.



I have heard this song before. I NEVER thought this was anything than a white man. KC sounded more black than this man.
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Reply #63 posted 06/06/09 10:47pm

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eek What You Won't Do For Love, is one of my favorite songs. I had no idea that the guy who sang it is white. What a shocker!
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Reply #64 posted 06/07/09 12:02am

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prodigalfan said:

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Don't know if folks know this about 'Sitting On the Dock of the Bay.' The whistling is there because Otis Redding never finished the song. He whistled to leave space to replace with lyrics. It was released as it was and ironically, it's the only complete version of the song.



Supraman, I didn't know this. You sure know your music trivia. biggrin

Growing up I loved the song because he just whistled, and i thought it was incredibly brilliant, bold and brave to do that in a song.
I didn't learn until I was grown that it was happenstance and not intentional.
Otis died and the song was never finished.
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Reply #65 posted 06/07/09 1:59pm

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I thought he was black too. There are some soulful people of all colors, either you have it or you don't. wink
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Reply #66 posted 06/08/09 5:40am

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That would be retarded. lol


Hendrix does "sound" like a black man, so just the guitar wouldn't make me think he was white.
Would ever mistake the Isley Brothers for a "white" band when they featured guitar?

That's why I'm confused cuz Hendrix's music was not "white"(whatever that is) and he set the standard for bluesy, guitar laden rock music so doesn't that make most rock music "black" music? hmmm
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Reply #67 posted 06/08/09 11:46pm

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CalhounSq said:

Byron said:

NONE of you guys knew Bobby Caldwell was white? lol smile...

Well hell, this song wasn't out in the video age lol & it was on the radio so much we didn't have the album, this is the first visual I'm seeing of the guy nod

I knew from the day it was released lol nod...not sure how I knew, but everyone around me talked about how soulful he sounded for a white guy. I think my sister had the 12 inch vinyl of the song or something, and maybe his photo was on it?? hmmm...
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