JackieBlue said:

He did a speech where he said the one thing that he hopes is that they don't resent him when they get older because of the decisions he made and the circumstances they faced

@ this entire thread...

Timmy84 said:

I call shenanigans!

bboy87 said:

that reminds me somebody today on another site( a white person no doubt) said the young michael looked like gary coleman

bboy87 said:

And to Michael I say, good luck with that.

JackieBlue said:

oh yeah

you'll be getting a call from that private investigator soon

JackieBlue said:

That could also be one of the reasons, why they're kept so isolated from other people- because he's afraid of what could happen if people start telling them things.

I don't blame him for doing that considering all this shit he's landed himself into the past, and a ton of people hate Michael and want his children to turn against him
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suga10 said:

But how isolated are they? Isolation isn't good for any child especially in their formative years.

JackieBlue said:

Well its kind of obvious that they don't go to a regular school like other kids. They're homeschooled. Michael said sending them to a public school wouldn't work b/c paparazzi would always be giving them a rough time, but honestly, that is a lame excuse by MJ, since they're a ton of a celebrity kids out there who have huge stars as parents, and are going to a private school or something.

suga10 said:

Maybe that's why they seem to have those blank or woebegone expressions so often.

DesireeNevermind said:

are you even white? if not, you have no room to talk.

whatsgoingon said:

that's an ignorant statement. Please don't get me started with that one because I will argue you down on that one.

BoOTyLiCioUs said:

So someone who has changed all their features hasn't got problem with being black? And don't talk about him having books about black culture and how he has given to black charities and he works mainly with black folks, he can do all that and still not be proud of being black. I think it more of his own self-hatred as oppose to him hating black people. If you have self-hatred for yourself you wouldn't want to reproduce child that may end up looking almost exactly the same way you use to look like. Now most folks with kind of mentality will be happy enough for their children to just not look too black and if Prince & Paris were MJ biological kids that's probably how they would end looking a very diluted version of how their father use to look.

And as someone as said the Jacksons, naturally, have very distinctive features not just in their noses but in their cheek bones, their smiles and practically all his nephews and nieces no matter how light-skin or dark skin they are you could just tell they are Jacksons. Yet his own children, with maybe the exception of Blanket, don't have one thing that is Jacksoneque about them.

Invincible1958 said:

that's right, she looks EXACTLY like Boris Becker.


BUT

his other children are mixed coloured obviously.


But do I think these children are really Mike's?

Yea, they are just lite-coloured.

Not by blood, but they're still his kids.

whatsgoingon said:

Being proud of one's ethnic background can be no one's unquestioned duty.

That one line statement is the extent I am myself willing to discuss in the subject matter, though.

whatsgoingon said:

theres a deference between hating being black and having body dysmorphic disorder. and if you know the symptoms of that mental illness it fits mj to a tee.And then throw in him having vitiligo and no wonder he looks the way he does. body dysmorphic disorder makes thousands of people jack up their faces every year. people who have it look in the mirror and see ugly no matter how good looking they are , it has nothing to do with black or white . just because a black person doesn't like the way they look doesn't mean they don't like the way black people look as a whole. i would also mention most people with BDD someone calling them a name or making fun of them usually is what triggers it( ex. "big nose") also if you read about you would know the NOSE is the most comman hated feature of BDD sufferers


http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related part 3 i don't know where part 2 is





http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related part 2
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related part 3
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related part 4
http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related part 5

carlcranshaw said:

sad but true.

i think its interesting on this last dr. phil video he asked the girl to draw here self and the pics were different than how she really looks so i wonder if this is what mj saw in the mirror





instead of how he actually looked at the time

cdcgold said:

And notice the tears coming from his eyes, and how he drew the nose quite big. His whole issue with himself is BDD more than anything else. Any person (who's not suffering from BDD) knows when its right to stop with surgery, but BDD people don't know where to draw the line and Michael Jackson is an example.
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whatsgoingon said:

I will respond to this but I have to go to work in an hour so I will respond later with a lengthy response.

cdcgold said:

suga10 said:

novabrkr said:

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It has nothing to do with hatred and everything to do with reality. Those are
Mike's kids he brought them. The level that has taken his need to have noting to do with the African-American community or heritage is sad.

I do not hate him I feel sorry for him.

suga10 said:

I don't think those are tears, it is juicy spit dropping out of his (depicted) big lips.

laurarichardson said:

So true. This is MJ reality, nothing to do with hatred. MJ brought this mess upon himself. If MJ stopped at his first nose job, got married to a woman he loved & wanted to raise children with, didn't have children sleeping in his room/bed on a consistent basis he wouldn't have up to a quarter of the flack he nows get. It would be difficult for the media to exaggerate or distort things, there wouldn't have much to distort & exaggerate in the first place. But MJ likes being ambigious and mysterious in every aspect of his life and this is the mess he has created from all that ambiguity and mystery.

Most people don't hate him they just feel so sad that the beautiful, little boy from the J5 had to end up so screwed up.
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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

Explain that dumb ass comment to me please, because I don't speak moron.

whatsgoingon said:

and btw Don Imus donated to black charities too so does that mean he likes black people? oh excuse me, i mean "nappy headed hos". Some people just worship MJ to no end and will overlook anything he does. He could murder his own momma and some fanatic fan will say "she had it coming." MJ has a problem with self-esteem when it comes to his own reflection. His cosmetic surgeries and kids are a reflection of that. The only good thing in all of this is that I really believe he loves his children. I just hope they don't come back when they're grown with some tell all book about what a bad father he was. That would be very sad.

If MJ has BDD why didn't he change his body? Why did he only change his face and skin? From what I've read, BDD sufferers hate their look from big toe to top of head. There is not one thing about their physique and face that they appreciate. He would have fared better with the public by saying he had BDD instead of saying "i have vitiligo and i've only had one nose job and nothing else."

Cinnie said:

is this supposed to be him? Where did he write: THis is a drawing of ME.

MJ never whore earrings and on his Thriller drawings he captured his looks quite correctly.