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Reply #60 posted 06/05/09 6:41pm

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I find it hard to believe those are his children.
However, I will say this: my sister looks NOTHING like my father. My father is a very dark skinned hispanic/native man and is far darker than Byron. My sister is extremely pale, with light green eyes (with blue) and light brown hair, but she doesn't look like my mom either, but she has some facial features of my paternal grandmother.

I followed the typical route of being light olive skin with brown eyes and dark brown hair and I look far closer to my dad (blah). mad

Byron, your daughter looks a LOT like a cousin of mine!
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Another thing I would like to say: there is no mixed race look! Mixed children can look like any race. Not all half black people will come out looking like Rob Pilatus, I have a friend who is half-black, half-Serbian and would get very upset when people wouldn't believe she was half-white because she had "stereotypical black features".
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Reply #61 posted 06/05/09 6:54pm

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whatsgoingon said:


The girl's mother is actually bi-racial herself. So a biracial woman & a white man are on average going to make a child that looks practically white. And to black folk or mixed race folk they tend to know if someone is mixed regardless of how light or how blonde their hair is or how blue their eyes are.
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that's a generalization. everyone is different. everyone who is biracial doesn't always look like they are. Some people carry the features of both parents and sometimes one is dominant over the other.

As far as MJ's kids are concerned,I do think if they were truly his children, that the strong Jackson genes would be visible somewhere. All the other Jackson kids that are biracial, have strong Jackson features. So who knows. It's not any of our business anyways.


Yeah but all the other jackson children have non white mothers. Michaels the only one that had kids with a white woman. And some of them don't look like the jacksons that much either
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Reply #62 posted 06/05/09 6:57pm

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but you are a lightskin black man, with fine hair grain. So of course you child could look like this.

Michael is dark brown, coil hair, strong african black features. Even if one of his children came out that way, all of his children would not, they don't look anything like him or any of the jacksons.


michael was not dark skinned people he was brown skinned and he was no darker than the man from what i can tell from that picture
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Reply #63 posted 06/05/09 7:02pm

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LMFAOOO

Hell no! Those kids are whiter then white
Who the fuck does he think he's fooling?

We still remember





lol
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Reply #64 posted 06/05/09 7:04pm

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TotalAlisa said:


what was wrong with what i said?????

Michael's kids look nothing like him.

Are you black?



obviously not that whats kills me the most when white people try to comment on this subject when many of them know nothing about black people , alot of white people think all black people look alike. I read a comment earlier where someone said michaels kids should look like heidi klum and seal's kids.





whofarted serious i think some white people only see this when they look at all black people
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Reply #65 posted 06/05/09 7:05pm

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cdcgold said:

sunlite said:



that's a generalization. everyone is different. everyone who is biracial doesn't always look like they are. Some people carry the features of both parents and sometimes one is dominant over the other.

As far as MJ's kids are concerned,I do think if they were truly his children, that the strong Jackson genes would be visible somewhere. All the other Jackson kids that are biracial, have strong Jackson features. So who knows. It's not any of our business anyways.


Yeah but all the other jackson children have non white mothers. Michaels the only one that had kids with a white woman. And some of them don't look like the jacksons that much either

Not all of them

Jackie's wife was black and korean

Jermaine's first wife was black, his second was latino (I think), and his 3rd and 4th were middle eastern

Tito's wife was dominican

Randy's wives were middle eastern

and Marlon's wife is mixed I believe...





Jermajesty, Blanket, and Jeremy

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Reply #66 posted 06/05/09 7:06pm

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midiscover said:

LMFAOOO

Hell no! Those kids are whiter then white
Who the fuck does he think he's fooling?

We still remember





lol



i wish someone could photo shop that picture of prince and make his face look brown. maybe people just can't see past the skin color
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Reply #67 posted 06/05/09 7:09pm

cdcgold

bboy87 said:

cdcgold said:



Yeah but all the other jackson children have non white mothers. Michaels the only one that had kids with a white woman. And some of them don't look like the jacksons that much either

Not all of them

Jackie's wife was black and korean

Jermaine's first wife was black, his second was latino (I think), and his 3rd and 4th were middle eastern

Tito's wife was dominican

Randy's wives were middle eastern

and Marlon's wife is mixed I believe...





Jermajesty, Blanket, and Jeremy

Prince



thats what i'm taking about michaels the only one that had kids with a white woman, so i don't see why people try to compare the other brothers kids with his

i think that pic of prince you posted looks like mj in this picture
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Reply #68 posted 06/05/09 7:18pm

cdcgold

midiscover said:

LMFAOOO

Hell no! Those kids are whiter then white
Who the fuck does he think he's fooling?

We still remember





lol


I'm sorry but i don't think those kids look white. you can't just judge from that picture. I have seen many pics of those kids (that were taken in good quality) where their skin is tan and carmel looking. Those new pics we have were taken on a cloudy day so of course they look white washed
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Reply #69 posted 06/05/09 7:43pm

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squirrelscientist said:


Byron, your daughter looks a LOT like a cousin of mine!

Oh, crap, you're a relative of mine! eek lol


Another thing I would like to say: there is no mixed race look! Mixed children can look like any race. Not all half black people will come out looking like Rob Pilatus, I have a friend who is half-black, half-Serbian and would get very upset when people wouldn't believe she was half-white because she had "stereotypical black features".

Thank you!! worship nod
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Reply #70 posted 06/05/09 7:44pm

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dancerella said:

Check out the link. Since when are they allowed to be photographed without their masks??

http://bossip.com/118992/.../#comments



Everybody knows and has been knowing that those kids are not Michaels' bio kids. Its been long rumored and now evidenced by the maskless pics that Michael had bought these babies. Rumor has it that he paid his nurse/wife to be artificially inseminated (not his sperm) and then bought a baby from some other woman. I hate to admit it but I believe the rumors.


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Reply #71 posted 06/05/09 7:52pm

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You also have to consider how white or how black each parent is because not all black people look the same and not all white people look the same. You get two dark parents then no matter their races the kids will come out dark. Pair a light skinned black person and a fair skinned white person and the kid will probably come out looking white.

Beyonce has two black parents but she looks just as mixed as Alicia Keys. Alicia Keys has an Italian mother and she came out darker than Mariah Carey who has an Irish mother. Given that Michael was very brown with a pronounced nose his kids should have some resemblance to him. His wifenurse was fair but not fair enough to produce those kids with Michael being the daddy. And that whole custody thing was suspect as hell. twocents
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Reply #72 posted 06/05/09 7:52pm

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cdcgold said:

midiscover said:

LMFAOOO

Hell no! Those kids are whiter then white
Who the fuck does he think he's fooling?

We still remember





lol


I'm sorry but i don't think those kids look white. you can't just judge from that picture. I have seen many pics of those kids (that were taken in good quality) where their skin is tan and carmel looking. Those new pics we have were taken on a cloudy day so of course they look white washed


You are obviously seeing things. Which one of those children look caramel? Do you even understand what a caramel complexion is? Janet, Halle Berry are caramel and even Blanket who is the darkest of all the kids looks far from caramel. Even Blanket if you look at him looks more like a white child with darker features. The only reason that I say he could be MJ biological child is because campared to his "siblings" he has more of a hispanic look and there is something about him that reminds me a little of MJ when he was a child.

To Bryon you look almost mixed race to me yourself, I am not quite sure if that's what you are, but if you are mixed race and you have a child with a white woman the child will have the tendency to look more white anyway and a similar thing goes for Boris Becker daughter, the mother is mixed-race so of course the child is going to look practically white, but even with her you can still see her mixed heritage in her features.

Jermaine has mixed race children with his second "wife" who was Italian and they are very pale skin but they still have things that depicts their black heritage. MJ children, except for maybe Blanket have not one thing that depicts their black heritage not their hair texture, their features or their skin tone and to have that happening twice in a row is like 1 million to one. He married Debbie Rowe, his surrogate, for a reason and it had nothing to do with love and wanting to raise a family with her, it was to claim those children were legally his because they definetly ain't biologically his.
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Reply #73 posted 06/05/09 7:54pm

Byron

DesireeNevermind said:

dancerella said:

Check out the link. Since when are they allowed to be photographed without their masks??

http://bossip.com/118992/.../#comments



Everybody knows and has been knowing that those kids are not Michaels' bio kids. Its been long rumored and now evidenced by the maskless pics that Michael had bought these babies. Rumor has it that he paid his nurse/wife to be artificially inseminated (not his sperm) and then bought a baby from some other woman. I hate to admit it but I believe the rumors.



The way I see it, does it really matter if he's the biological father?...Does it really matter if he claims he's the biological father even if he's not?

As far as I'm concerned he's their father...and more importantly, as far as HE'S concerned he is...and MOST importantly, as far as those two kids are concerned, he is their father. nod

There are a lot of people right here on this site who have fathers who were not their biological "fathers", for a number of reasons. thumbs up!...And my assumption is that if he used artificial insemination, he most likely used his own sperm...I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to do so.


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Reply #74 posted 06/05/09 7:55pm

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caramel mixed cutie pies
y'all started this not me lol





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Reply #75 posted 06/05/09 7:59pm

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Byron said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Everybody knows and has been knowing that those kids are not Michaels' bio kids. Its been long rumored and now evidenced by the maskless pics that Michael had bought these babies. Rumor has it that he paid his nurse/wife to be artificially inseminated (not his sperm) and then bought a baby from some other woman. I hate to admit it but I believe the rumors.



The way I see it, does it really matter if he's the biological father?...Does it really matter if he claims he's the biological father even if he's not?

As far as I'm concerned he's their father...and more importantly, as far as HE'S concerned he is...and MOST importantly, as far as those two kids are concerned, he is their father. nod

There are a lot of people right here on this site who have fathers who were not their biological "fathers", for a number of reasons. thumbs up!



But why lie in the first place? When and why is it good to lie about paternity? Why not be proud that you adopted or did invitro or whatever? I will tell you why. Because the truth is worse than the lie. The truth is he didnt want kids that looked like him. Plain and simple. Madonna got no problem adopting and African kid but Jacko? Hell nah...he'd rather go buy some white man's kids. Angelina can adopt an Ethiopian and Asian kid but Jacko? Nope. He wants the salt not the pepper.
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Reply #76 posted 06/05/09 8:00pm

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Byron said:

DesireeNevermind said:




Everybody knows and has been knowing that those kids are not Michaels' bio kids. Its been long rumored and now evidenced by the maskless pics that Michael had bought these babies. Rumor has it that he paid his nurse/wife to be artificially inseminated (not his sperm) and then bought a baby from some other woman. I hate to admit it but I believe the rumors.



The way I see it, does it really matter if he's the biological father?...Does it really matter if he claims he's the biological father even if he's not?

As far as I'm concerned he's their father...and more importantly, as far as HE'S concerned he is...and MOST importantly, as far as those two kids are concerned, he is their father. nod

There are a lot of people right here on this site who have fathers who were not their biological "fathers", for a number of reasons. thumbs up!...And my assumption is that if he used artificial insemination, he most likely used his own sperm...I can't imagine why he wouldn't want to do so.


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and that's the bottom line
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Reply #77 posted 06/05/09 8:00pm

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Reply #78 posted 06/05/09 8:02pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

falloff falloff



KHAAAAANNN!
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Reply #79 posted 06/05/09 8:09pm

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DesireeNevermind said:

Byron said:


The way I see it, does it really matter if he's the biological father?...Does it really matter if he claims he's the biological father even if he's not?

As far as I'm concerned he's their father...and more importantly, as far as HE'S concerned he is...and MOST importantly, as far as those two kids are concerned, he is their father. nod

There are a lot of people right here on this site who have fathers who were not their biological "fathers", for a number of reasons. thumbs up!



But why lie in the first place? When and why is it good to lie about paternity? Why not be proud that you adopted or did invitro or whatever? I will tell you why. Because the truth is worse than the lie. The truth is he didnt want kids that looked like him. Plain and simple. Madonna got no problem adopting and African kid but Jacko? Hell nah...he'd rather go buy some white man's kids. Angelina can adopt an Ethiopian and Asian kid but Jacko? Nope. He wants the salt not the pepper.

Exactly. If he adopted the kids why pretend they are his biologically. He has issues with blackness and the older he has become the more of an issue it has been. Let's say he couldn't have children because he had fertility problems you would think he would a black sperm doner, rather than some Italian sperm donor.

Those children ain't bad looking, but if he and Brooke Shields got together back in the day, he probably would have had his own biological children with her and they would have been truely gorgeous.
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Reply #80 posted 06/05/09 8:10pm

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whatsgoingon said:

cdcgold said:



I'm sorry but i don't think those kids look white. you can't just judge from that picture. I have seen many pics of those kids (that were taken in good quality) where their skin is tan and carmel looking. Those new pics we have were taken on a cloudy day so of course they look white washed


You are obviously seeing things. Which one of those children look caramel? Do you even understand what a caramel complexion is? Janet, Halle Berry are caramel and even Blanket who is the darkest of all the kids looks far from caramel. Even Blanket if you look at him looks more like a white child with darker features. The only reason that I say he could be MJ biological child is because campared to his "siblings" he has more of a hispanic look and there is something about him that reminds me a little of MJ when he was a child.

To Bryon you look almost mixed race to me yourself, I am not quite sure if that's what you are, but if you are mixed race and you have a child with a white woman the child will have the tendency to look more white anyway and a similar thing goes for Boris Becker daughter, the mother is mixed-race so of course the child is going to look practically white, but even with her you can still see her mixed heritage in her features.

Jermaine has mixed race children with his second "wife" who was Italian and they are very pale skin but they still have things that depicts their black heritage. MJ children, except for maybe Blanket have not one thing that depicts their black heritage not their hair texture, their features or their skin tone and to have that happening twice in a row is like 1 million to one. He married Debbie Rowe, his surrogate, for a reason and it had nothing to do with love and wanting to raise a family with her, it was to claim those children were legally his because they definetly ain't biologically his.
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um jermain has never had kids with an italian woman. the women he had kids with were black, hispanic and middle eastern Period. i don't know where you are getting your imformation from but you need to check your sources
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Reply #81 posted 06/05/09 8:13pm

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cdcgold said:

whatsgoingon said:



You are obviously seeing things. Which one of those children look caramel? Do you even understand what a caramel complexion is? Janet, Halle Berry are caramel and even Blanket who is the darkest of all the kids looks far from caramel. Even Blanket if you look at him looks more like a white child with darker features. The only reason that I say he could be MJ biological child is because campared to his "siblings" he has more of a hispanic look and there is something about him that reminds me a little of MJ when he was a child.

To Bryon you look almost mixed race to me yourself, I am not quite sure if that's what you are, but if you are mixed race and you have a child with a white woman the child will have the tendency to look more white anyway and a similar thing goes for Boris Becker daughter, the mother is mixed-race so of course the child is going to look practically white, but even with her you can still see her mixed heritage in her features.

Jermaine has mixed race children with his second "wife" who was Italian and they are very pale skin but they still have things that depicts their black heritage. MJ children, except for maybe Blanket have not one thing that depicts their black heritage not their hair texture, their features or their skin tone and to have that happening twice in a row is like 1 million to one. He married Debbie Rowe, his surrogate, for a reason and it had nothing to do with love and wanting to raise a family with her, it was to claim those children were legally his because they definetly ain't biologically his.
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um jermain has never had kids with an italian woman. the women he had kids with were black, hispanic and middle eastern Period. i don't know where you are getting your imformation from but you need to check your sources


His second wife was Italian/spanish and that is caucasian in most people eyes so she would be considered white under ethnicity monitoring.
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Reply #82 posted 06/05/09 8:15pm

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whatsgoingon said:

DesireeNevermind said:




But why lie in the first place? When and why is it good to lie about paternity? Why not be proud that you adopted or did invitro or whatever? I will tell you why. Because the truth is worse than the lie. The truth is he didnt want kids that looked like him. Plain and simple. Madonna got no problem adopting and African kid but Jacko? Hell nah...he'd rather go buy some white man's kids. Angelina can adopt an Ethiopian and Asian kid but Jacko? Nope. He wants the salt not the pepper.

Exactly. If he adopted the kids why pretend they are his biologically. He has issues with blackness and the older he has become the more of an issue it has been. Let's say he couldn't have children because he had fertility problems you would think he would a black sperm doner, rather than some Italian sperm donor.

Those children ain't bad looking, but if he and Brooke Shields got together back in the day, he probably would have had his own biological children with her and they would have been truely gorgeous.


because maybe he's NOT lying. And i don't understand what you said about hair texture Paris clearly has a hair texture that is that is common with biracial children. her hair is not even straight it is thick and Wavy/curly
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Reply #83 posted 06/05/09 8:17pm

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whatsgoingon said:

cdcgold said:



um jermain has never had kids with an italian woman. the women he had kids with were black, hispanic and middle eastern Period. i don't know where you are getting your imformation from but you need to check your sources


His second wife was Italian/spanish and that is caucasian in most people eyes so she would be considered white under ethnicity monitoring.
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where did you find this imformation
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Reply #84 posted 06/05/09 8:18pm

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I wonder if the kids know there are questions regarding their parentage? If not, they will eventually.
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Reply #85 posted 06/05/09 8:21pm

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cdcgold said:

whatsgoingon said:


Exactly. If he adopted the kids why pretend they are his biologically. He has issues with blackness and the older he has become the more of an issue it has been. Let's say he couldn't have children because he had fertility problems you would think he would a black sperm doner, rather than some Italian sperm donor.

Those children ain't bad looking, but if he and Brooke Shields got together back in the day, he probably would have had his own biological children with her and they would have been truely gorgeous.


because maybe he's NOT lying. And i don't understand what you said about hair texture Paris clearly has a hair texture that is that is common with biracial children. her hair is not even straight it is thick and Wavy/curly


Her hair is no thicker than white child who happens to have thick hair. Infact white children have curly hair, they have dark hair and dark eyes. I mean lots of Italians are considered white even though they have dark eyes, dark hair and some have really curly hair. Those features are no different to the features of millions of white children out there.

The only think that stands out about Paris, regardless of her ethnicity is that she has an unusual kind of blue eyes, but then again so does Elizabeth Taylor and she ain't mixed neither.
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Reply #86 posted 06/05/09 8:22pm

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cdcgold said:

whatsgoingon said:



His second wife was Italian/spanish and that is caucasian in most people eyes so she would be considered white under ethnicity monitoring.
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where did you find this imformation


I read a book what she wrote, so I got my info from her lol
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Reply #87 posted 06/05/09 8:23pm

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whatsgoingon said:

cdcgold said:



because maybe he's NOT lying. And i don't understand what you said about hair texture Paris clearly has a hair texture that is that is common with biracial children. her hair is not even straight it is thick and Wavy/curly


Her hair is no thicker than white child who happens to have thick hair. Infact white children have curly hair, they have dark hair and dark eyes. I mean lots of Italians are considered white even though they have dark eyes, dark hair and some have really curly hair. Those features are no different to the features of millions of white children out there.

The only think that stands out about Paris, regardless of her ethnicity is that she has an unusual kind of blue eyes, but then again so does Elizabeth Taylor and she ain't mixed neither.


but what makes her different from all the other thousands of mixed kids who have that same kind of hair!!!!! is it cause she's michaels would you only believe she was his if she had nappy hair
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Reply #88 posted 06/05/09 8:27pm

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if Jacko were half white himself then I wouldn't question how these kids look. Truth is they are too dang white to be HIS kids. Genes do matter and in this case his genes are missing from the equation. Below are black women (actually half white women) and their white looking kids. okay its fucked up that we're talking like this but it is MJ and he has a problem with being black I think.






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cdcgold said:

whatsgoingon said:



Her hair is no thicker than white child who happens to have thick hair. Infact white children have curly hair, they have dark hair and dark eyes. I mean lots of Italians are considered white even though they have dark eyes, dark hair and some have really curly hair. Those features are no different to the features of millions of white children out there.

The only think that stands out about Paris, regardless of her ethnicity is that she has an unusual kind of blue eyes, but then again so does Elizabeth Taylor and she ain't mixed neither.


but what makes her different from all the other thousands of mixed kids who have that same kind of hair!!!!! is it cause she's michaels would you only believe she was his if she had nappy hair


No, this ain't got nothing to with nappy hair. This is the equivalent of Wesley Snipes or how MJ use to look like having a child with a white woman and that child comes out looking exactly the same complexion as Wesley Snipes or Michael's original colour with all the same features and the exactly same hair type. No one would believe that child was a mixed child, because no matter how dark a mixed race child is it is very unlikely that they will be just as dark as the black parent.

There are alot mixed race children that favour the dark skin parent but even if you compare them with the black parent there will still be a difference in skin tone, probably features and hair type. A good example is Melanie Brown(ex Spice girl) who is looks more black but her skin tone, features and hair is still different from that of her black father.
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