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PrintableGREG PHILLINGANES ON MJ..
My career with MJ started in 1978 with his brothers. I was brought in as an arranger for the “Destiny” album. I also worked on the “Triumph” album after Michael’s solo career took off with the landmark record “Off The Wall.” I’m also all over the “Thriller,” “Bad” and Dangerous” albums.’In the early days, it was a blast working with him, as you can imagine. One day during the making of “Destiny,” I saw him playing drums, which was quite impressive. I never thought he would be good at it but realized later that it was probably because he was such a great dancer, just as Sammy Davis, Jr. was also a brilliant drummer. Michael had a strong sense of what he wanted to achieve as an artist; he was a very talented writer who was able to clearly get his ideas across but it wasn’t until he hooked up with Quincy Jones that his artistry blossomed.
midnightmover said: As Bill Wolfer quite clearly said, Michael cannot play an instrument. More recently Wil.i.am's musical partner who worked in the studio with Michael in 2006 said the exact same thing. Michael cannot play an instrument. That doesn't change the fact that he's musically gifted, but fans should not make inflated claims which they can't back up. | |
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ElectricBlue said: The silence is deafening
Thats what I thought! Shine some light on this scumbags "hyped lies" and the cockroaches scatter.
You know on the subject of Michael Jackson I have online brought up the same points over the last hmmm 15 years - like a broken record and slowly even fans are not disputing anymore. - moonwalk rip off - lip syncing 95% of the time Ignore the "boy love", plastic surgey & weekly jacko stunts released to the papers to keep his name relevant. At the core of this man is HE HAS NO TALENT ! Lip Syncing every major tv performance tells everyone that and now seeing the public taking a step back and wondering out loud - Why is this man in our lives for 25 years with so much coverage with these stupid media stunts?? You know what I look at on all his actual performances, the reason WE SHOULD know this guy - they are ALL Lip Sycned - Artfully Edited which makes everything feel well faked... -Adding a Fake Crowd Cheering with your Lip Sync Track - Finding early excited crowd moments when he first comes on stage. But editing those moments into the whole show. - Something I notice this year with the Manipulation in Motown 25. The Hand Claps. There is NO way the claps can be louder then the band, the music, basically whats on stage and mic! Legitimate hand claps can't be the loudiest thing we hear at home. They were punched in & sweeten. - Editing both concerts together into one for the CBS Broadcast in 2001.I'm not talking about different acts and picking the best moments. But editing moment to moment of Michael Jackson's dancing because that has slipped! Watch the Billie Jean performance - then microphone goes from being in his hand - to a split second later being on the mic stand - to a split seconds later back into his hand. The public is now looking back and the Tidewave of talk now with Michael Jackson isn't his personal life anymore - It's his lack of talent. I wasn't aware of the Hall & Oates-info before and recognise indeed similarities in the basspart of the intro, but to state that Michael never ever had talent is a stretch by far. He started at such an early age and was complimented by the likes of James Brown as a child prodigy. It's just unfortunate that his vocal abilities are not anymore on that level when he performed on monstertours from Destiny, Triumph, Victory & mainly the first leg of Bad, because back then the sky was the limit. Don't tell me by watching footage of those mentioned tours that MJ had no talent at all. As for the Motown 25 Show. Many performances from shows, specials or events on tv are pre-recorded so no biggie about that. He still kept singing solid live the year after, during the Victory Tour. | |
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ElectricBlue said: The silence is deafening
Thats what I thought! Shine some light on this scumbags "hyped lies" and the cockroaches scatter.
You know on the subject of Michael Jackson I have online brought up the same points over the last hmmm 15 years - like a broken record and slowly even fans are not disputing anymore. - moonwalk rip off - lip syncing 95% of the time Ignore the "boy love", plastic surgey & weekly jacko stunts released to the papers to keep his name relevant. At the core of this man is HE HAS NO TALENT! Lip Syncing every major tv performance tells everyone that and now seeing the public taking a step back and wondering out loud - Why is this man in our lives for 25 years with so much coverage with these stupid media stunts?? You know what I look at on all his actual performances, the reason WE SHOULD know this guy - they are ALL Lip Sycned - Artfully Edited which makes everything feel well faked... -Adding a Fake Crowd Cheering with your Lip Sync Track - Finding early excited crowd moments when he first comes on stage. But editing those moments into the whole show. - Something I notice this year with the Manipulation in Motown 25. The Hand Claps. There is NO way the claps can be louder then the band, the music, basically whats on stage and mic! Legitimate hand claps can't be the loudiest thing we hear at home. They were punched in & sweeten. - Editing both concerts together into one for the CBS Broadcast in 2001.I'm not talking about different acts and picking the best moments. But editing moment to moment of Michael Jackson's dancing because that has slipped! Watch the Billie Jean performance - then microphone goes from being in his hand - to a split second later being on the mic stand - to a split seconds later back into his hand. The public is now looking back and the Tidewave of talk now with Michael Jackson isn't his personal life anymore - It's his lack of talent.  ITS OVER.....just stop.[Edited 6/21/09 8:23am] |
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papaaisaway said: GREG PHILLINGANES ON MJ..
My career with MJ started in 1978 with his brothers. I was brought in as an arranger for the “Destiny” album. I also worked on the “Triumph” album after Michael’s solo career took off with the landmark record “Off The Wall.” I’m also all over the “Thriller,” “Bad” and Dangerous” albums.’In the early days, it was a blast working with him, as you can imagine. One day during the making of “Destiny,” I saw him playing drums, which was quite impressive. I never thought he would be good at it but realized later that it was probably because he was such a great dancer, just as Sammy Davis, Jr. was also a brilliant drummer. Michael had a strong sense of what he wanted to achieve as an artist; he was a very talented writer who was able to clearly get his ideas across but it wasn’t until he hooked up with Quincy Jones that his artistry blossomed.
midnightmover said: As Bill Wolfer quite clearly said, Michael cannot play an instrument. More recently Wil.i.am's musical partner who worked in the studio with Michael in 2006 said the exact same thing. Michael cannot play an instrument. That doesn't change the fact that he's musically gifted, but fans should not make inflated claims which they can't back up. Greg Philinganes has always been charitable to MJ. He owes much of his career to that association. If Michael could really play an instrument, Quincy would have mentioned it by now. Other collaborators have explicitly said that he can't play anything. “The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
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