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Reply #30 posted 06/04/09 1:46pm

babynoz

Slave-hop should be our new word for this noise.
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Reply #31 posted 06/04/09 1:47pm

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InsatiableCream said:

I refuse to believe this bullshit is real lol those lyrics are just too fucking stupid


And it's a damn shame that some of the hits of the 2000's have stupid lyrics, not just mainstream hip-hop.
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Reply #32 posted 06/04/09 1:49pm

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TonyVanDam said:

InsatiableCream said:

I refuse to believe this bullshit is real lol those lyrics are just too fucking stupid


And it's a damn shame that some of the hits of the 2000's have stupid lyrics, not just mainstream hip-hop.


i've heard some ignorant songs before but this just sounds ridiculous
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Reply #33 posted 06/04/09 1:50pm

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babynoz said:

Slave-hop should be our new word for this noise.


Vainandy already have the word "shit-hop". But when a rap song is worse than shit-hop, it can only be worthy to be known as what I called "slave-hop".
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Reply #34 posted 06/04/09 1:52pm

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TonyVanDam said:

babynoz said:

Slave-hop should be our new word for this noise.


Vainandy already have the word "shit-hop". But then a rap song is worse than shit-hop, it can only be worthy to be known as what I called "slave-hop".


they might as well just start making a video about them in the cotton fields..set us back another 100 years.
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Reply #35 posted 06/04/09 3:25pm

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The self-righteousness is thick up in here. What's the difference between the song in question and the "coonery" heard in most Black American pop/R&B music that y'all KNOW y'all listen to? Nothing. The song was just as musically, culturally and lyrically vapid as everything else that's danced to in clubs and purchased on iTunes. Also, I guess what's really making everybody wince is the word "slave" mixed with a sentiment akin to "how dare a hip hop group use that word so cavalierly? Haven't they realized the 400 years of pain and suffering the word "slave" evokes?"

Y'all need to quit - where was this outcry over the video of that guy from Pretty Ricky dancing in his thong that you decided was worth watching? That was obvious coonery, wasn't it? The specious sense of righteousness is just as condemning as the music you "refuse" to listen to.
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Speak for your damn self. I do not listen to this type of bullshit. And why I do I have to self righteous if I don't want black people making total asses of themselves?

I didn't watch that other damn video either. I am sure it is just as bad.

BTW, I played this song for a couple of white guys at work and one said: why do black people like to make fools out of themselves?
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Reply #36 posted 06/04/09 5:32pm

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Vendetta1 said:

chuckaducci said:

The self-righteousness is thick up in here. What's the difference between the song in question and the "coonery" heard in most Black American pop/R&B music that y'all KNOW y'all listen to? Nothing. The song was just as musically, culturally and lyrically vapid as everything else that's danced to in clubs and purchased on iTunes. Also, I guess what's really making everybody wince is the word "slave" mixed with a sentiment akin to "how dare a hip hop group use that word so cavalierly? Haven't they realized the 400 years of pain and suffering the word "slave" evokes?"

Y'all need to quit - where was this outcry over the video of that guy from Pretty Ricky dancing in his thong that you decided was worth watching? That was obvious coonery, wasn't it? The specious sense of righteousness is just as condemning as the music you "refuse" to listen to.
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Speak for your damn self. I do not listen to this type of bullshit. And why I do I have to self righteous if I don't want black people making total asses of themselves?

I didn't watch that other damn video either. I am sure it is just as bad.

BTW, I played this song for a couple of white guys at work and one said: why do black people like to make fools out of themselves?



I know...do we have to go through the sixties all over again? I wasnt even there and I know times were hard for black folks back then. I have a customer that comes in my job everyday..still suffering from the effects of white men dragging him by a car in the 50's..I think about that everytime I see him. The effects don't go away..and then we got people on here saying this dumb shit is ok. Raise ya got damn kids better than this people!
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Reply #37 posted 06/04/09 5:36pm

Vendetta1

paisleypark4 said:

Vendetta1 said:

Speak for your damn self. I do not listen to this type of bullshit. And why I do I have to self righteous if I don't want black people making total asses of themselves?

I didn't watch that other damn video either. I am sure it is just as bad.

BTW, I played this song for a couple of white guys at work and one said: why do black people like to make fools out of themselves?



I know...do we have to go through the sixties all over again? I wasnt even there and I know times were hard for black folks back then. I have a customer that comes in my job everyday..still suffering from the effects of white men dragging him by a car in the 50's..I think about that everytime I see him. The effects don't go away..and then we got people on here saying this dumb shit is ok. Raise ya got damn kids better than this people!
hug It makes me feel good to see someone your age feel this way Isaiah.

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Reply #38 posted 06/04/09 5:48pm

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Reply #39 posted 06/04/09 5:51pm

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Reply #40 posted 06/04/09 6:13pm

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Vendetta1 said:

paisleypark4 said:




I know...do we have to go through the sixties all over again? I wasnt even there and I know times were hard for black folks back then. I have a customer that comes in my job everyday..still suffering from the effects of white men dragging him by a car in the 50's..I think about that everytime I see him. The effects don't go away..and then we got people on here saying this dumb shit is ok. Raise ya got damn kids better than this people!
hug It makes me feel good to see someone your age feel this way Isaiah.

You coming to the family reuinon? I'll be there. biggrin


U know ill be there chile. I got VIP tix. Me and my partner will be there actin a fool!
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Reply #41 posted 06/04/09 6:25pm

Harlepolis

Ya'll actin' shocked JUST NOW confused

There has been NOTHING but plantation entertainment going around these days, and this is ONLY the tip of the shit.

Do you know whats SHOCKING? These young mofos will eat this like a its the 1st meal they had in 3 days, and their dumb ass parents will look at them without moving a damn muscle.
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Reply #42 posted 06/04/09 6:30pm

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Harlepolis said:

Ya'll actin' shocked JUST NOW confused

There has been NOTHING but plantation entertainment going around these days, and this is ONLY the tip of the shit.

Do you know whats SHOCKING? These young mofos will eat this like a its the 1st meal they had in 3 days, and their dumb ass parents will look at them without moving a damn muscle.



However..im proud at some of the comments I have seen of this song on youtube..alot of people are agreeing with us.
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Reply #43 posted 06/04/09 6:46pm

Vendetta1

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Ya'll actin' shocked JUST NOW confused

There has been NOTHING but plantation entertainment going around these days, and this is ONLY the tip of the shit.

Do you know whats SHOCKING? These young mofos will eat this like a its the 1st meal they had in 3 days, and their dumb ass parents will look at them without moving a damn muscle.
Girlie, I been shocked for years. lol

But this is the Org. You can look at the titles of the threads and tell what people give a damn about.
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Reply #44 posted 06/05/09 4:40am

chuckaducci

paisleypark said:


VENDETTA i repeat for you:
As sure as a day is 24 hours long, someone will be along to defend this bullshit.


First things first - reading comprehension must be an abandoned art. Because NOWHERE in my post did I defend the artistic merit of this song. I said it's as musically, artistically and lyrically vapid as most of Black American hip hop/pop music. So this statement is groundless.


WHATS WRONG WITH U?
Maybe you are not one of the people who are sensetized when somebody calls you N* out your name or had no thought for Nas' cover for the Untitled album, however when you joke about something in your OWN culture and community that we STILL are struggling to get over because of b.s. like this there is NO WAY we can sit and say "well I'm just going to dance and make my black people look even more stupid anyway".


Meh - this part of your post is a bit jumbled for me. But my point was the only reason folks were upset about this song is because of the word "slave" {as if Black Americans were the only people in history subjected to enslavement}. If he said instead "whip it good" while the lyrical content of the song remained, nobody would have cared to chastise the artists involved. I doubt an outcry from this board and a subsequent thread featuring Black musicians making music that is embarrassing or demeaning to our culture. I'm saying that is hypocritical and self-righteous! If you are going to attack one song for it's outright coonery, then attack them all. And although I do not haunt these boards as religiously as some of you do, I don't recall seeing threads about the culturally destructive minstrel elements of Lil' Wayne, Rick Ross, T-Pain, et al.

Like I said, y'all need to quit. Self-righteousness don't look good on you.
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Reply #45 posted 06/05/09 4:46am

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[Verse 1:]
Ok, you ain't know shit
It's weezy f baby like a newborn bitch
You ain't know shit
I put your girl to work now heres a uniform bitch
Pimpin over here
And I ain't santa clause but
I make it rain dear
Money out the ass
Yeah money out the rear.
Weezy at the plate
I could bunt it out of here
Safe as a mother fucker
Ain't no safety button on this mother fucker
Where the safe mother fucker?
That's the case
I can judge it
Weezy F. the ample fury
Hang 12 witnesses
That's what I call a hung jury
Brung Jerry Bling Bling
I made that but I don't even say that
As much as Judges Say that
That's way back
Boy you should catch up
It must of be
Mine, theys
Long hair pretty eyes light skin fine legs,
Phat ass, skinny stomach, pretty feet, pretty woman
Walking down the street cause I put her out my jeep,
I don't save em, I slave em, they want weezy f,
I bad grade em, I don't degrade em, I serenade em,
100 on the charm
100 on the arm
Rings so thick I can't even make a fist
Nigga fuck how you do it cause I do it like this

Yeah, and I just do my wayne
And every time I do it I do my thang,
[x2]

I do it do it
I do it do it
I do it do it do it do it
I do it do it do it do it

I do it how I do it and I do it everyday
I do it how I do it and I do it everyday
Say I do it how I do it when I do it everyday

And I whip it like a slave
Like a mother fuckin slave
Yes I whip it like a slave
Yes I whip it like a slave
I whip it like a slave
Like a mother fuckin slave
Yea I whip it like a slave
Like a mother fuckin slave
Then I beat it I beat it
I beat it I beat I
I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat that block like it misbehaved
Then I whip it, I whip it, I whip it, like a slave
I whip it whip it
I whip it whip it
Whip it, whip it, whip it, whip it
Beat it now beat it up
Beat it I beat it up
Beat it I beat it up
Beat it beat it up

[Verse 2:]
Kunta kinte on my shit nigga
Like I ate a plate of roots for dinner
But I ate a plate of loot for dinner
I'm in the garden sellin fruit to sinners
Like apples to Shaq
Hey big spender
And do remember
Just like Brenda
2 grand still get ya four and a baby
I'm a kill em when I drop like I'm holdin a baby
Weezy f, the F is for don't Forget the Baby
And bitch I've been hot but you don't know me from satan
And if your manning up you better show me your Peyton
But you pussies ain't ballin no sir
Not lately
Bricks get shipped
Bricks get cut
Dr. Carter, Nip & Tuck
Yeah but you could call me wayne
Now watch me and my chain Gang!

Whip it whip it whip it
Whip it whip it whip it
Whip it whip it whip it
Whip it whip it whip it
Whip it whip it whip it

I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat it up
I beat it up
I beat it

[Verse 3:]
Yes it's me bitches
Duece Bigalow on these he bitches
Flu flow
Flyer then bird coupe like a two door
What do you know
I know the streets bitch
And this is my toilet
And you can't eat shit
Got them girls in my bathroom with their asses out
Cause I'm fly, like flyers they passin out
We mashin out,
We young Mula
I got that 12 Guage
Don't make me 1 2 ya
3 4 5 train bitch suwoop
If you ain't on my train bitch cho cho
Like you got my dick in your mizouth
And I'm a do me bitch with you or without
Shit always right sometimes
And from the top everybody look 1'9
And I'm 2'much
And numbers don't lie
And if they stop makin cadillacs
I swear I'm gon die
And if the weed man ain't got no more Onions I'm a cry
And if if was a fifth then id rather drink wine
Shit... I'm a take my time
Now am I crazy or just lazy?
Cause I'm tired of ballin darlin
And I roll with my riders like it's harley party
And we roll with them choppers like it's a harley party
We all dressed in are red like it was a scarlet party
I was ballin in New Orleans way before the charolette hornets
I'm an x man bitch I ain't talkin marvel comics
Put the dirty dishes in the sank
No pork but I get paid like a piggy bank
I spit like backwash, sasquach
No back talk, I act lost
But I bet that money find me
Your jewelry telling jokes
Man You got them funny diamonds
I got them sunny diamonds
I got them money problems
That Christopher Wallace
Fuck bitches get money
Young money!

Do it do it
Do it do it
Do it do it
Do it

Watch me beat it up lady
Beat it up lady
Wat u mean
No homo
I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat that... block
I beat that
And then I
Whip it
Whip it
Whip it
Pimpin
Young mula baby


Poetry... Pure poetry. confused



Watch it win a Grammy next year,lol.
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Reply #46 posted 06/05/09 4:50am

chuckaducci

Vendetta1 said:

Speak for your damn self. I do not listen to this type of bullshit. And why I do I have to self righteous if I don't want black people making total asses of themselves?



You are only self-righteous and a hypocrite if you denigrate this particular song while accepting the work from other Black artists who make music that is just as demeaning and merit-less. Your outrage shouldn't depend upon the cavalier use of the word "slave." It should depend upon the lack of artistic merit and the culturally demeaning effects of the art.
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Reply #47 posted 06/05/09 4:57am

chuckaducci

Harlepolis said:

Ya'll actin' shocked JUST NOW confused

There has been NOTHING but plantation entertainment going around these days, and this is ONLY the tip of the shit.

Do you know whats SHOCKING? These young mofos will eat this like a its the 1st meal they had in 3 days, and their dumb ass parents will look at them without moving a damn muscle.



Other than mine, one of the few posts in this thread that makes sense and is not full of pseudo-rage.
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Reply #48 posted 06/05/09 7:23am

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chuckaducci said:[quote]

paisleypark said:



WHATS WRONG WITH U?
Maybe you are not one of the people who are sensetized when somebody calls you N* out your name or had no thought for Nas' cover for the Untitled album, however when you joke about something in your OWN culture and community that we STILL are struggling to get over because of b.s. like this there is NO WAY we can sit and say "well I'm just going to dance and make my black people look even more stupid anyway".


Meh - this part of your post is a bit jumbled for me. But my point was the only reason folks were upset about this song is because of the word "slave" {as if Black Americans were the only people in history subjected to enslavement}. If he said instead "whip it good" while the lyrical content of the song remained, nobody would have cared to chastise the artists involved. I doubt an outcry from this board and a subsequent thread featuring Black musicians making music that is embarrassing or demeaning to our culture.
Like I said, y'all need to quit. Self-righteousness don't look good on you.



Kunta kinte on my shit nigga
Like I ate a plate of Roots for dinner

disbelief

So that is not basically torwards the BLACK slaves...or does that mean everybody else like u said? I don't see him talking about Hitler or nobody else....I think we all know what he meant. rolleyes

And when we basically have black folks literally making fun of our own race, are we just supposed to sit there and let it happen? Isnt the outcry already been made on shows like Hip Hop Vs. America on BET..they had 2 specials on it now. This aint nothing new...it just seems to get worse.
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Reply #49 posted 06/05/09 10:43am

chuckaducci

paisleypark4 said:

chuckaducci said:



Meh - this part of your post is a bit jumbled for me. But my point was the only reason folks were upset about this song is because of the word "slave" {as if Black Americans were the only people in history subjected to enslavement}. If he said instead "whip it good" while the lyrical content of the song remained, nobody would have cared to chastise the artists involved. I doubt an outcry from this board and a subsequent thread featuring Black musicians making music that is embarrassing or demeaning to our culture.
Like I said, y'all need to quit. Self-righteousness don't look good on you.



Kunta kinte on my shit nigga
Like I ate a plate of Roots for dinner

disbelief

So that is not basically torwards the BLACK slaves...or does that mean everybody else like u said? I don't see him talking about Hitler or nobody else....I think we all know what he meant. rolleyes


I dunno if you are being thickheaded because you cannot grasp the concept of my posts or you are struggling mightily with reading comprehension. Either way, you are missing my point entirely. For your convenience, I re-state my point below. And for future reference, the use of hip hop lyrics do not add weight to your argument so let it go. But back to the word "slave."

Who cares if they used it? That word doesn't exist to exclusively evoke Black American pain and suffering at the hands of White, Christian men. Of course, when the word was used by these nimwits, they definitely weren't thinking of Hebrew slaves or any other countless cultures that have been held in captivity at one point in history. But, why the fuss over it? Are we talking about the Black elite using that word carelessly? No. We are talking about uneducated numbnuts who haven't a clue. The misuse of that word by this rap group is a symptom of what is ailing Black America today. That being said, if Richard Pryor used that word "slave" or the word "nigger" in such a way as to provoke thought or for satire, then I'm fine with it. Because I have perspective, it all depends upon who is using it and what for.

And when we basically have black folks literally making fun of our own race, are we just supposed to sit there and let it happen? Isnt the outcry already been made on shows like Hip Hop Vs. America on BET..they had 2 specials on it now. This aint nothing new...it just seems to get worse.


Even though black people making fun of black people isn't the point of this debate {I cannot figure out why haven't latched onto my argument}, it doesn't bother me. Why? Because these fools are not the first group of Black musicians who have made objectionable art while demeaning our culture. There are plenty of popular Black musicians and recording artists today, who make objectionable art that demean our culture without using lightening rod words such as "slave." Again, my point is if you are going to raise a fuss over one stupid song, then make a fuss over ALL the stupid, objectionable songs made by Black artists. Otherwise, your indignation smacks of hypocrisy.


Let's say you bought a puppy. You bring her home to your nice house. You say to the puppy "Look, mutherfucker, don't shit on my white shag carpet." The next day, you wake up, and there's shit on the carpet. You get really mad. You say again, "Don't shit on my carpet!" The next morning, there's shit on your carpet again. You're livid. "I thought I told you not to shit on my carpet?!" you scream at the dog. At what point do you begin to realize your anger is stupid or groundless? You never once attempted to train the dog, so what do you expect from untrained dogs?

What do you expect from these silly little, uneducated Black boys? I cannot stress this enough - if you're going to castigate this song for it's coonery, then you must castigate all other coon songs.

EDIT: spell check, bitches! hey o!
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Reply #50 posted 06/05/09 12:22pm

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chuckaducci said:[quote]

paisleypark4 said:



I dunno if you are being thickheaded because you cannot grasp the concept of my posts or you are struggling mightily with reading comprehension. Either way, you are missing my point entirely. For your convenience, I re-state my point below. And for future reference, the use of hip hop lyrics do not add weight to your argument so let it go. But back to the word "slave."

Who cares if they used it? That word doesn't exist to exclusively evoke Black American pain and suffering at the hands of White, Christian men. Of course, when the word was used by these nimwits, they definitely weren't thinking of Hebrew slaves or any other countless cultures that have been held in captivity at one point in history. But, why the fuss over it? Are we talking about the Black elite using that word carelessly? No. We are talking about uneducated numbnuts who haven't a clue. The misuse of that word by this rap group is a symptom of what is ailing Black America today.



And when we basically have black folks literally making fun of our own race, are we just supposed to sit there and let it happen? Isnt the outcry already been made on shows like Hip Hop Vs. America on BET..they had 2 specials on it now. This aint nothing new...it just seems to get worse.


Even though black people making fun of black people isn't the point of this debate {I cannot figure out why haven't latched onto my argument}, it doesn't bother me. Why? Because these fools are not the first group of Black musicians who have made objectionable art while demeaning our culture. There are plenty of popular Black musicians and recording artists today, who make objectionable art that demean our culture without using lightening rod words such as "slave."

Dont U think we know that already? Are U a newbie? THis one strikes us too just as much as the other ones the same, however the word slave, used by African Americans is PUSHING the envelope a little far. With a black president now and days I don't know how they can even actually say this is ok. I look at other posts and there are white people saying that WE are stupid and laughing at us. On youtube too. When African Americans say "slave" and "whip" what else is everyone going to think? I think our history has the biggest recognition for Afican Americans attatched to the word "whipped" and "slave". And obviously you know this. It just is a subject that should not be made fun of or made for people to dance to and enjoy. Any race can be subjected to a number of things however this can only be seen as just.

Its the mentality like this that maekes white people think ti's ok for them to call me "nigg.." because they think they are "down".


I cannot stress this enough - if you're going to castigate this song for it's coonery, then you must castigate all other coon songs.

And you think we don't? I believe Master P, Cash Money and all the rest of them that followed were all part of the Coonery that has happened to rap music. It is their "bling bling" and Puffy's "shiny cars" and NWA gangsta raps that caused other races to think of my race as "lower than theirs". I believe it's their fault that other cultures look down upon African Americans because they do not respect themselves..and others...only helping demean our culture.



EDIT: spell check, bitches! hey o!
[Edited 6/5/09 10:45am]
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Reply #52 posted 06/05/09 1:58pm

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chuckaducci said:

The self-righteousness is thick up in here. What's the difference between the song in question and the "coonery" heard in most Black American pop/R&B music that y'all KNOW y'all listen to? Nothing. The song was just as musically, culturally and lyrically vapid as everything else that's danced to in clubs and purchased on iTunes. Also, I guess what's really making everybody wince is the word "slave" mixed with a sentiment akin to "how dare a hip hop group use that word so cavalierly? Haven't they realized the 400 years of pain and suffering the word "slave" evokes?"

Y'all need to quit - where was this outcry over the video of that guy from Pretty Ricky dancing in his thong that you decided was worth watching? That was obvious coonery, wasn't it? The specious sense of righteousness is just as condemning as the music you "refuse" to listen to.
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I guess that anyone dancing in a thong is "coonerish" cuz it's perceived as gay and everyone knows that white folks made homosexuality just to hold the man down? Get over yourself, girlfriend?
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Reply #55 posted 06/05/09 4:31pm

chuckaducci

Heheheh, it seems like my posting style is still very popular around here. Y'all still ain't used to it. If arrogance is not suffering fools gladly, then so be it. You numbnuts don't bother me.


If y'all weren't so concerned about addressing my arrogance and lusting over a chance to zing me for past verbal ass whuppings I mercilessly, yet gleefully bestowed upon that ass, you would be able to get over your hard on for me and focus on my posts. Never did I belittle the Black American experience in America. To suggest otherwise betrays your idiocy. I explicitly wrote:


Of course, when the word was used by these nimwits, they definitely weren't thinking of Hebrew slaves or any other countless cultures that have been held in captivity at one point in history. But, why the fuss over it? Are we talking about the Black elite using that word carelessly? No. We are talking about uneducated numbnuts who haven't a clue. The misuse of that word by this rap group is a symptom of what is ailing Black America today.


...So why BK is giving me static about a slight belittling of the Black American diaspora on my part, I have no idea. As for the rest of his schlocky post on the Black American experience, I ain't interested, son.


Then, I get BlockheadKing's static about me telling people what they can and can't get offended by. As I sip on this fine California Merlot, I wish to say to that: um, shaddup? Nowhere did I tell anybody what they can or can't be offended by! Here's my point again, lovers:

If you are genuinely concerned about the effects demeaning Black American art has on the Black American experience, in regards to this song and/or other many examples of contemporary Black coonery, then I apologize. Obviously my posts aren't directed towards you.

BUT!

If you came up in this thread, huffing and puffing and throwing your chest out about how this song is ridiculous! This song demeans Black America! This song shouldn't be played on the radio! This song supports awful Black stereotypes! This song is harmful to Black American culture! But you were shaking your ass in the club last night to "Drop It Like It's Hot" - YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. And the reason why I thought this thread was full of it is because as I was reading the posts in the Pretty Ricky thong thread, nobody seemed to be offended by his example of another Black American minstrel acting a coon. Y'all were more concerned with his choice of coloured thong than the fact that another young, talented black man was on the internet, in a red/pink thong, grinding and licking his lips - no wonder the world thinks we're a fucken joke! Where was the righteous indignation over that clear example? Aren't we suppose to conduct ourselves more nobly than that? - simply because of the hurtful black stereotypes? You guys are focusing on one word and a coon's use of that word while letting other coons get home safe? Hypocrites. I'll call you out faster than a McDonald's pick up order at Oprah's.

If you don't like my opinion, come to Boston and let's sip on this Merlot together, the night is young! But one thing you know is that you'll never get a Chuckaducci opinion that's based out of his ass. I don't make posts so retards can applaud or stroke my ass. I make posts because I have an unique perspective; because I'm all heart baby!
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Reply #56 posted 06/06/09 11:56am

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chuckaducci said:

Heheheh, it seems like my posting style is still very popular around here. Y'all still ain't used to it. If arrogance is not suffering fools gladly, then so be it. You numbnuts don't bother me.


If y'all weren't so concerned about addressing my arrogance and lusting over a chance to zing me for past verbal ass whuppings I mercilessly, yet gleefully bestowed upon that ass, you would be able to get over your hard on for me and focus on my posts. Never did I belittle the Black American experience in America. To suggest otherwise betrays your idiocy. I explicitly wrote:


Of course, when the word was used by these nimwits, they definitely weren't thinking of Hebrew slaves or any other countless cultures that have been held in captivity at one point in history. But, why the fuss over it? Are we talking about the Black elite using that word carelessly? No. We are talking about uneducated numbnuts who haven't a clue. The misuse of that word by this rap group is a symptom of what is ailing Black America today.


...So why BK is giving me static about a slight belittling of the Black American diaspora on my part, I have no idea. As for the rest of his schlocky post on the Black American experience, I ain't interested, son.


Then, I get BlockheadKing's static about me telling people what they can and can't get offended by. As I sip on this fine California Merlot, I wish to say to that: um, shaddup? Nowhere did I tell anybody what they can or can't be offended by! Here's my point again, lovers:

If you are genuinely concerned about the effects demeaning Black American art has on the Black American experience, in regards to this song and/or other many examples of contemporary Black coonery, then I apologize. Obviously my posts aren't directed towards you.

BUT!

If you came up in this thread, huffing and puffing and throwing your chest out about how this song is ridiculous! This song demeans Black America! This song shouldn't be played on the radio! This song supports awful Black stereotypes! This song is harmful to Black American culture! But you were shaking your ass in the club last night to "Drop It Like It's Hot" - YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. And the reason why I thought this thread was full of it is because as I was reading the posts in the Pretty Ricky thong thread, nobody seemed to be offended by his example of another Black American minstrel acting a coon. Y'all were more concerned with his choice of coloured thong than the fact that another young, talented black man was on the internet, in a red/pink thong, grinding and licking his lips - no wonder the world thinks we're a fucken joke! Where was the righteous indignation over that clear example? Aren't we suppose to conduct ourselves more nobly than that? - simply because of the hurtful black stereotypes? You guys are focusing on one word and a coon's use of that word while letting other coons get home safe? Hypocrites. I'll call you out faster than a McDonald's pick up order at Oprah's.

If you don't like my opinion, come to Boston and let's sip on this Merlot together, the night is young! But one thing you know is that you'll never get a Chuckaducci opinion that's based out of his ass. I don't make posts so retards can applaud or stroke my ass. I make posts because I have an unique perspective; because I'm all heart baby!



Well when you use the word "self-righteous" it is as if you are attacking us for voicing our opinions about the song. If you know the org well you don't have to ask us if we think young African American rap artists have been only helping to demean our race..we know. They just jumped another broom and said "slave" as if other nationalties people don't already have enough things to laugh at rappers about. They part of the reason even our own African people don't like us now, from what i know when they told me their opinion of us. What they are shown.
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Reply #57 posted 06/06/09 12:32pm

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paisleypark4 said:

chuckaducci said:

Heheheh, it seems like my posting style is still very popular around here. Y'all still ain't used to it. If arrogance is not suffering fools gladly, then so be it. You numbnuts don't bother me.


If y'all weren't so concerned about addressing my arrogance and lusting over a chance to zing me for past verbal ass whuppings I mercilessly, yet gleefully bestowed upon that ass, you would be able to get over your hard on for me and focus on my posts. Never did I belittle the Black American experience in America. To suggest otherwise betrays your idiocy. I explicitly wrote:




...So why BK is giving me static about a slight belittling of the Black American diaspora on my part, I have no idea. As for the rest of his schlocky post on the Black American experience, I ain't interested, son.


Then, I get BlockheadKing's static about me telling people what they can and can't get offended by. As I sip on this fine California Merlot, I wish to say to that: um, shaddup? Nowhere did I tell anybody what they can or can't be offended by! Here's my point again, lovers:

If you are genuinely concerned about the effects demeaning Black American art has on the Black American experience, in regards to this song and/or other many examples of contemporary Black coonery, then I apologize. Obviously my posts aren't directed towards you.

BUT!

If you came up in this thread, huffing and puffing and throwing your chest out about how this song is ridiculous! This song demeans Black America! This song shouldn't be played on the radio! This song supports awful Black stereotypes! This song is harmful to Black American culture! But you were shaking your ass in the club last night to "Drop It Like It's Hot" - YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE. And the reason why I thought this thread was full of it is because as I was reading the posts in the Pretty Ricky thong thread, nobody seemed to be offended by his example of another Black American minstrel acting a coon. Y'all were more concerned with his choice of coloured thong than the fact that another young, talented black man was on the internet, in a red/pink thong, grinding and licking his lips - no wonder the world thinks we're a fucken joke! Where was the righteous indignation over that clear example? Aren't we suppose to conduct ourselves more nobly than that? - simply because of the hurtful black stereotypes? You guys are focusing on one word and a coon's use of that word while letting other coons get home safe? Hypocrites. I'll call you out faster than a McDonald's pick up order at Oprah's.

If you don't like my opinion, come to Boston and let's sip on this Merlot together, the night is young! But one thing you know is that you'll never get a Chuckaducci opinion that's based out of his ass. I don't make posts so retards can applaud or stroke my ass. I make posts because I have an unique perspective; because I'm all heart baby!



Well when you use the word "self-righteous" it is as if you are attacking us for voicing our opinions about the song. If you know the org well you don't have to ask us if we think young African American rap artists have been only helping to demean our race..we know. They just jumped another broom and said "slave" as if other nationalties people don't already have enough things to laugh at rappers about. They part of the reason even our own African people don't like us now, from what i know when they told me their opinion of us. What they are shown.


No, paisley, when I accused posters of being self-righteous, I definitely was pointing out the hypocrisy of those who flat out refused to listen to this song because they knew it was going to be demeaning to Black culture but had no problems watching the Pretty Ricky video. Even if you didn't watch the Pretty Ricky video while refusing to give audience to the song in question, but you are a proponent of contemporary Black popular music, you are a self-righteous hypocrite. You can't be listening to Jay-Z, Snoop, Rick Ross, Pharrell, Lil' Wayne, etc (all of whom write and popularize songs that are sometimes culturally demeaning) on one hand and refusing to listen to this song on the other.

I don't know why y'all are so upset about the word "slave." Jay-Z's calling Black women "bitches" in 99 Problems! Where's the outpouring of Black Americans refusing to listen to or support his art? Snoop's lyrics in "Drop It Like It's Hot" are just as ignorant as "Whip It Like A Slave!" Yet, I'm willing to bet most of us were up in the club, shaking our asses to it. Rick Ross is making millions by slinging music about him slinging drugs - popularizing another negative Black stereotype. That's just as ignorant as "Whip It Like A Slave", isn't it?

It just seems like if you guys were so concerned about protecting Black American culture, you would have also refused to watch the Pretty Ricky video.
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Reply #58 posted 06/06/09 5:11pm

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TonyVanDam said:

Prospect said:

"Hawdy, folks!!!!" biggrin

Every once and a while, we need a hit song from some of our own people that will set us all back a couple of hundred decades to represent our level of progress.

This song is called "Whip It Like a Slave" and its by Dem Franchize Boyz, whom we thought we would never hear from again, and it features Lil Wayne, one of the biggest rap artists out now, which ensures it will be played everywhere and go under the radar. I bet the massa and the them at the record labels will ah-looooove this here! And BET probably cant wait to do the access granted for the video.

Here below is a 1 minute snippet of the song. Give it a listen, you hear?

http://www.zshare.net/aud...03013176d/



You have to be f***ing s***ing me?!? omg How the hell did Universal Records allowed them to release a song like THAT?!?

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Are you kidding?. Record labels love ignorant negros the more country ass backwards you are the better. After all the record companies can rip these idiots off and throw them away when their 15 mins is up and go find some other dumbass off the street corner.

It would make to much sense and cost to much money to look for talented artist that you could develop and turn into cornerstone artist for you label.

Why do you think someone like Van Hunt is putting is next cd out himself.
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Reply #59 posted 06/06/09 5:18pm

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chuckaducci said:

paisleypark said:


VENDETTA i repeat for you:
As sure as a day is 24 hours long, someone will be along to defend this bullshit.


First things first - reading comprehension must be an abandoned art. Because NOWHERE in my post did I defend the artistic merit of this song. I said it's as musically, artistically and lyrically vapid as most of Black American hip hop/pop music. So this statement is groundless.


WHATS WRONG WITH U?
Maybe you are not one of the people who are sensetized when somebody calls you N* out your name or had no thought for Nas' cover for the Untitled album, however when you joke about something in your OWN culture and community that we STILL are struggling to get over because of b.s. like this there is NO WAY we can sit and say "well I'm just going to dance and make my black people look even more stupid anyway".


Meh - this part of your post is a bit jumbled for me. But my point was the only reason folks were upset about this song is because of the word "slave" {as if Black Americans were the only people in history subjected to enslavement}. If he said instead "whip it good" while the lyrical content of the song remained, nobody would have cared to chastise the artists involved. I doubt an outcry from this board and a subsequent thread featuring Black musicians making music that is embarrassing or demeaning to our culture. I'm saying that is hypocritical and self-righteous! If you are going to attack one song for it's outright coonery, then attack them all. And although I do not haunt these boards as religiously as some of you do, I don't recall seeing threads about the culturally destructive minstrel elements of Lil' Wayne, Rick Ross, T-Pain, et al.

Like I said, y'all need to quit. Self-righteousness don't look good on you.

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Well if this is your point your dead wrong.

"I said it's as musically, artistically and lyrically vapid as most of Black American hip hop/pop music."

We have some weak RnB these days but nothing is as awful as "dirty south" rap.
I am sorry I will take some RnB chick or dude moning about sex any day over this crap.

If this song were sung by any other ethnic group it would still be stupid but, because it is being performed by these so-called "African-Americans it is even worse them stupid.

In addtion, I guess you don't come to this board often because loads of people on this board cannot stand any of the following coons.

Lil' Wayne, Rick Ross, T-Pain,

You can add Soul (asshole ) boy to the list as well.
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