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IN TOO DEEP


LAND OF CONFUSION (Prince cameo at 3:38 )


TONIGHT TONIGHT TONIGHT

[Edited 6/2/09 6:20am]

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Well, not at first (although it sure seems like that now)...


Peter Gabriel was their first lead singer, and Phil Collins was their drummer, starting in 1970..

In 1976, when Gabriel left to pursue a solo career, they looked for a number of lead singers...finally Collins came from behind the drums and started doing vocals as well.....






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paligap said:

That is just about right.

Under the leadership of Peter Gabriel, Genesis were one of forerunners of the progressive rock movement. But under the leadership of Phil Collins was when Genesis finally were making serious crossover hits.

never thought i would see a Genesis thread here

lol

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BTW one of my Genesis favorites--I love to hear Chester Thompson and Phil Collins slap the hell out of the drums!

Dodo






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absolutely not, Tony and Mike do some of the songwriting.. they bring that "darker" appeal to the music.. you can see when tho as the years went by and Phil did most of the songwriting it got more "pop" and less dark.

Not even close. Phil as a solo artist is much more pop friendly. Genesis has always had a foot deep in the Progressive Rock genre, and it almost seems that songs like "Invisible Touch" or "Tonight, Tonight, Tonight" are the sore thumbs and odd balls of their discography. I can't hear Genesis playing "Sussudio" and being real about it.

It's actually a great example of a singer leaving a group and truly doing something different. Genesis would have never recorded "In The Air Tonight", but Phil alone, writing his own music and doing his own thing...it was perfect for him as an artist. So many lead singers leave their groups, and they basically sound the same. Oh, it might have some other ideas in the album, but in short it's the same. Vince Neil left Motley Crue...still made a rock album; never stood out. Brett Michaels went solo. Still made a rock album; never stood out. Michael Jackson left The Jacksons. Still made a pop/R&B record but did well at it. But Phil leaving Genesis? I dare to say he was bigger than Genesis ever was.

I have to say, Phil Collins and that singer chap out of Genesis sound DAMN similar

No.

For the first eight years of their career he was "only" the drummer, though a very good one. Didn't write or sing hardly anything except for the odd track like More Fool Me.

After Peter Gabriel left, Phil became the singer but was not the main writer. Their first few albums with him as singer sounded a lot like the old ones, then after 1980 they started having some mainstream pop hits. But before 1983, they were still nowhere near as mainstream as his solo stuff.

By the time of Invisible Touch and that stuff in the mid-80s, you can hardly tell the difference, even though the other two guys are still writing some songs. I think they decided to sell out collectively. Most fans of the old, progresso Genesis didn't like those albums at all.

Genesis did make an album without Phil in 1998, using a different singer, but that was a total failure. It wasn't progressive enough for the old school fans, nor was it catchy enough to play on the radio.

that's what they slowly became--the Phil Collins band.