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Reply #60 posted 05/31/09 8:50pm

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Nope. It comes ALL down to Halle's preference. Trust and believe. She gets scripts with Black male leads, she just doesn't accept them.


In other words, Hallie will say hell yeah to Sean Connery but a f*** no to Richard Roundtree?!?

Well that sucks!
disbelief


Well, maybe not those 2 old ass muthafuckas...but, yeah, something like that. lol
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Reply #61 posted 05/31/09 9:07pm

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Very True. I mean I been waiting for Spike short Lee to do A Black classic romance for a while now, and it's not happening. Both Denzel and Halle have the power yet no. They said something about it being chessy confused

Spike's first theatrical flick was on romance - "She's Gotta Have It". Then he did "Mo' Betta Blues."


No I mean Romance as in Two Black leads only! The whole classic feel to it. Spike has yet to do this. I want the Chick-Flick lol I want to cry, Laugh, watch it over and over again kind of film.

My question to these black directors is this so hard? Find some Black romance Novel and make it into a flick. Simple and Easy.
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Reply #62 posted 05/31/09 9:11pm

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Spike Lee should do one with two random Black actors. I mean white hollywerid do it all the time. Why is it so hard for there to be two leads falling in love like a Titanic or The Notebook. Tyler Perry also could do this instead of cooning and jiving.

I can't think of a last Black romance Classic. Some will say Love and Basketball and i say ugh lol


"Love Jones", wasn't that film made in the last century? lol


Hmmm hasn't seem it yet i'll check it out.
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Reply #63 posted 05/31/09 9:22pm

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tamewar said:

MuthaFunka said:


Spike's first theatrical flick was on romance - "She's Gotta Have It". Then he did "Mo' Betta Blues."


No I mean Romance as in Two Black leads only! The whole classic feel to it. Spike has yet to do this. I want the Chick-Flick lol I want to cry, Laugh, watch it over and over again kind of film.

My question to these black directors is this so hard? Find some Black romance Novel and make it into a flick. Simple and Easy.


There is a Hollywood belief that two black actors in a romance will not bring the desired box office numbers. So they try to keep it 'open' and cast a non-black opposite. Those that have depicted black-on-black romance have been smaller films. And those with bigger budgets or bigger actors have little to no romantic interaction or shared screen time. A director may do it but a studio will be reluctant to back it.
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Reply #64 posted 05/31/09 9:41pm

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No I mean Romance as in Two Black leads only! The whole classic feel to it. Spike has yet to do this. I want the Chick-Flick lol I want to cry, Laugh, watch it over and over again kind of film.

My question to these black directors is this so hard? Find some Black romance Novel and make it into a flick. Simple and Easy.


There is a Hollywood belief that two black actors in a romance will not bring the desired box office numbers. So they try to keep it 'open' and cast a non-black opposite. Those that have depicted black-on-black romance have been smaller films. And those with bigger budgets or bigger actors have little to no romantic interaction or shared screen time. A director may do it but a studio will be reluctant to back it.
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We'll that explain Hitch. Will Smith is the biggest movie star he can def make it happen, There more to it. Funny thing is Spike was calling out Tyler saying he keeps on making these wack black flicks when he can be making real ones. I say Spike is a hater lol.

It more of the fact of Black (women of color) actress not getting these roles and being replace with non-black women .

It's like watching 106 and Park and seeing Rocsi host i could care less but why not a Black women do the job it is B.E.T or as the boondocks would say Evil TV lol
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Reply #65 posted 05/31/09 9:52pm

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This is the third time Halle has kissed a random celebrity. First it was Adrian Brody, then it was Fred Durst (in that video), now this... lol

Adrian kissed her, he didn't roll up on that mf, come on now hammer
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Reply #66 posted 05/31/09 9:53pm

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This is the third time Halle has kissed a random celebrity. First it was Adrian Brody, then it was Fred Durst (in that video), now this... lol

Adrian kissed her, he didn't roll up on that mf, come on now hammer

lol Well he started it. lol
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Reply #67 posted 05/31/09 9:55pm

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tamewar said:

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There is a Hollywood belief that two black actors in a romance will not bring the desired box office numbers. So they try to keep it 'open' and cast a non-black opposite. Those that have depicted black-on-black romance have been smaller films. And those with bigger budgets or bigger actors have little to no romantic interaction or shared screen time. A director may do it but a studio will be reluctant to back it.
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We'll that explain Hitch. Will Smith is the biggest movie star he can def make it happen, There more to it. Funny thing is Spike was calling out Tyler saying he keeps on making these wack black flicks when he can be making real ones. I say Spike is a hater lol.

It more of the fact of Black (women of color) actress not getting these roles and being replace with non-black women .

It's like watching 106 and Park and seeing Rocsi host i could care less but why not a Black women do the job it is B.E.T or as the boondocks would say Evil TV lol
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Hitch was not going to get done with a black woman. Will knows this as does Halle, Sam Jackson, and Denzel and others. It's a game.
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Reply #68 posted 05/31/09 10:06pm

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"Love Jones", wasn't that film made in the last century? lol


Hmmm hasn't seem it yet i'll check it out.



You gotta check-it-out. cool



Here's just a snippet of what I was able to find on U-Tube. Nice soundtrack in addition to the movie too: Lauren Hill, Maxwell, Me'Shell Ndegeocello, Cassandra Wilson...

http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related
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Reply #69 posted 05/31/09 10:07pm

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The fuck are ya'll talking about movie politics?


Have ya'll forgettin' about the ass?!

MuthaFunka, not you too! lol


Halle don't want US! lol

That's the other reason. Catch it?
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Reply #70 posted 05/31/09 10:09pm

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tamewar said:



We'll that explain Hitch. Will Smith is the biggest movie star he can def make it happen, There more to it. Funny thing is Spike was calling out Tyler saying he keeps on making these wack black flicks when he can be making real ones. I say Spike is a hater lol.

It more of the fact of Black (women of color) actress not getting these roles and being replace with non-black women .

It's like watching 106 and Park and seeing Rocsi host i could care less but why not a Black women do the job it is B.E.T or as the boondocks would say Evil TV lol
[Edited 5/31/09 21:45pm]


Hitch was not going to get done with a black woman. Will knows this as does Halle, Sam Jackson, and Denzel and others. It's a game.



hmmm This game is not a very good one neutral
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Reply #71 posted 05/31/09 10:14pm

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tamewar said:

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Hitch was not going to get done with a black woman. Will knows this as does Halle, Sam Jackson, and Denzel and others. It's a game.



hmmm This game is not a very good one neutral


That's the unfortunate part, lol. I remembered the big fuss when Denzel was in that film with Julia Roberts but in respect to the black female fan base he has (and it's still huge), he refused to participate in romantic scenes with her.
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Reply #72 posted 05/31/09 10:17pm

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Timmy84 said:

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hmmm This game is not a very good one neutral


That's the unfortunate part, lol. I remembered the big fuss when Denzel was in that film with Julia Roberts but in respect to the black female fan base he has (and it's still huge), he refused to participate in romantic scenes with her.


That movie was on earlier today. I had read the book long before so when the movie came out I was like huh? That was before I knew the deal but it always kinda bothered me that they would play it that far and then do nothing. Why bother? They were pretty faithful to the book up to that point so it was a glaring omission.
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Reply #73 posted 05/31/09 10:18pm

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tamewar said:

MuthaFunka said:


Spike's first theatrical flick was on romance - "She's Gotta Have It". Then he did "Mo' Betta Blues."


No I mean Romance as in Two Black leads only! The whole classic feel to it. Spike has yet to do this. I want the Chick-Flick lol I want to cry, Laugh, watch it over and over again kind of film.

My question to these black directors is this so hard? Find some Black romance Novel and make it into a flick. Simple and Easy.


Well, Mahogany and Lady Sings The Blues fall under that category.
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Reply #74 posted 05/31/09 10:19pm

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angel345 said:

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Halle don't want US! lol

That's the other reason. Catch it?

lol No, what?
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Reply #75 posted 05/31/09 10:21pm

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tamewar said:



Hmmm hasn't seem it yet i'll check it out.



You gotta check-it-out. cool


http://www.youtube.com/wa...re=related


Thanks! The movie looks good. And i love this clip.
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Reply #76 posted 05/31/09 10:25pm

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No I mean Romance as in Two Black leads only! The whole classic feel to it. Spike has yet to do this. I want the Chick-Flick lol I want to cry, Laugh, watch it over and over again kind of film.

My question to these black directors is this so hard? Find some Black romance Novel and make it into a flick. Simple and Easy.


Well, Mahogany and Lady Sings The Blues fall under that category.


Those two flicks were for Diana ego. Both were good but old. I want a Gone with the wind Movie type. I mean what would of been the difference if they had cast a Black man ala Denzel in The Bodyguard with Whitney Houston?
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Reply #77 posted 05/31/09 10:41pm

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JackieBlue said:

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That's the unfortunate part, lol. I remembered the big fuss when Denzel was in that film with Julia Roberts but in respect to the black female fan base he has (and it's still huge), he refused to participate in romantic scenes with her.


That movie was on earlier today. I had read the book long before so when the movie came out I was like huh? That was before I knew the deal but it always kinda bothered me that they would play it that far and then do nothing. Why bother? They were pretty faithful to the book up to that point so it was a glaring omission.


I didn't believe this excuse for a second. Julia Roberts at this point a huge star what she doing kissing a Black men even if it's Denzel.

In He Got Game Denzel had no problem kissing and having a love scene with Milla Jovovich. So he and Julia can stop saving face and tell the truth.
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Reply #78 posted 05/31/09 10:49pm

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JackieBlue said:

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That's the unfortunate part, lol. I remembered the big fuss when Denzel was in that film with Julia Roberts but in respect to the black female fan base he has (and it's still huge), he refused to participate in romantic scenes with her.


That movie was on earlier today. I had read the book long before so when the movie came out I was like huh? That was before I knew the deal but it always kinda bothered me that they would play it that far and then do nothing. Why bother? They were pretty faithful to the book up to that point so it was a glaring omission.


Right. I think Denzel didn't want hate mail from black women talking about they destroyed their dream and shit. confused
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Reply #79 posted 05/31/09 10:49pm

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tamewar said:

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That movie was on earlier today. I had read the book long before so when the movie came out I was like huh? That was before I knew the deal but it always kinda bothered me that they would play it that far and then do nothing. Why bother? They were pretty faithful to the book up to that point so it was a glaring omission.


I didn't believe this excuse for a second. Julia Roberts at this point a huge star what she doing kissing a Black men even if it's Denzel.

In He Got Game Denzel had no problem kissing and having a love scene with Milla Jovovich. So he and Julia can stop saving face and tell the truth.


Didn't he also kiss Angelina Jolie in that movie he was in around '99?
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Reply #80 posted 05/31/09 10:51pm

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Timmy84 said:

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I didn't believe this excuse for a second. Julia Roberts at this point a huge star what she doing kissing a Black men even if it's Denzel.

In He Got Game Denzel had no problem kissing and having a love scene with Milla Jovovich. So he and Julia can stop saving face and tell the truth.


Didn't he also kiss Angelina Jolie in that movie he was in around '99?


The Bone Collector... no kiss there.

There was no kiss written in The Pelican Brief screenplay altho the novel was different.
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Reply #81 posted 05/31/09 10:52pm

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tamewar said:

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Well, Mahogany and Lady Sings The Blues fall under that category.


Those two flicks were for Diana ego. Both were good but old. I want a Gone with the wind Movie type. I mean what would of been the difference if they had cast a Black man ala Denzel in The Bodyguard with Whitney Houston?

Dian ego or not, they were films that fall under that category though.
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Reply #82 posted 05/31/09 10:53pm

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Timmy84 said:

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That movie was on earlier today. I had read the book long before so when the movie came out I was like huh? That was before I knew the deal but it always kinda bothered me that they would play it that far and then do nothing. Why bother? They were pretty faithful to the book up to that point so it was a glaring omission.


Right. I think Denzel didn't want hate mail from black women talking about they destroyed their dream and shit. confused


That's exactly why he didn't do it - he knew where his bread and butter came from: Black women.
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Reply #83 posted 05/31/09 11:08pm

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Right. I think Denzel didn't want hate mail from black women talking about they destroyed their dream and shit. confused


That's exactly why he didn't do it - he knew where his bread and butter came from: Black women.


Yeah that explains it, lol.
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Reply #84 posted 05/31/09 11:10pm

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That's exactly why he didn't do it - he knew where his bread and butter came from: Black women.


Yeah that explains it, lol.


Did he have an excuse for Milla Jovovich?
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Reply #85 posted 05/31/09 11:12pm

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Those two flicks were for Diana ego. Both were good but old. I want a Gone with the wind Movie type. I mean what would of been the difference if they had cast a Black man ala Denzel in The Bodyguard with Whitney Houston?

Dian ego or not, they were films that fall under that category though.


True. But lets get out of the 70's and think now where are the black romances.
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Reply #86 posted 05/31/09 11:12pm

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tamewar said:

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Yeah that explains it, lol.


Did he have an excuse for Milla Jovovich?

By 98, he had been in the game for 17 years, so he had secured his fan base, and he didn't have to worry about that sort of stuff then.
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Reply #87 posted 05/31/09 11:13pm

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tamewar said:

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Dian ego or not, they were films that fall under that category though.


True. But lets get out of the 70's and think now where are the black romances.


They're out there, not just in major studios.
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Reply #88 posted 05/31/09 11:17pm

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tamewar said:

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Yeah that explains it, lol.


Did he have an excuse for Milla Jovovich?


Director Spike Lee gave Denzel THIS explaination: The character is release from prison for one week only. Getting sex from any woman will do if you're fresh out of prison!
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Reply #89 posted 05/31/09 11:18pm

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Did he have an excuse for Milla Jovovich?

By 98, he had been in the game for 17 years, so he had secured his fan base, and he didn't have to worry about that sort of stuff then.


I guess he crossover.
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