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Reply #60 posted 06/05/09 5:37am

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rocknrolldave said:

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I hate the first bit "If you don't have sex with me for the cameras, I'll push you off a balcony". GREAT message to send out!

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That wasn't the message it was sending out, the message was one of cynicism of the motives of those around her, now she's famous. He's really into her, he loves her, he's making her feel great, he's....ah wait, he's just trying to make a name for himself.


I'm sure all the kiddies picked up on that rolleyes
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Reply #61 posted 06/05/09 5:48am

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purplesweat said:

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That wasn't the message it was sending out, the message was one of cynicism of the motives of those around her, now she's famous. He's really into her, he loves her, he's making her feel great, he's....ah wait, he's just trying to make a name for himself.


I'm sure all the kiddies picked up on that rolleyes



ah yes, pop music, only listened to by kiddies.

Quite right. My bad.
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Reply #62 posted 06/05/09 5:59am

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rocknrolldave said:

purplesweat said:



I'm sure all the kiddies picked up on that rolleyes



ah yes, pop music, only listened to by kiddies.

Quite right. My bad.


My 8 year old cousin loves Gaga. confused
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Reply #63 posted 06/05/09 5:59am

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rocknrolldave said:

purplesweat said:



I'm sure all the kiddies picked up on that rolleyes



ah yes, pop music, only listened to by kiddies.

Quite right. My bad.


I think Lady GaGa's min audience is around 20!

Real young teens prefer someone less artsy like Beyonce, Pussyshaved Dolls or Rihanna.
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Reply #64 posted 06/05/09 6:28am

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purplesweat said:

rocknrolldave said:




ah yes, pop music, only listened to by kiddies.

Quite right. My bad.


My 8 year old cousin loves Gaga. confused



Well, aside from the fact that that's just one person and not necessarily representative of the audience as a whole, do you think Lady GaGa should deliberately gear her music and videos towards 8 year olds? Or should she go ahead and try and make the points she wants to make, whoever is listening?
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Reply #65 posted 06/05/09 6:33am

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There are no 8-year-olds at GaGa's shows. It's pretty clear who her fanbase is.

Not quite sure how "the kids might listen" is a reasonable argument for criticism of GaGa when we're on a Prince fan site (or ever, for that matter).
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Reply #66 posted 06/05/09 7:11am

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I'm still loving Poker Face...

speaking of which, Casey Stratton does a really cool cover of it and it's available for free download on his website:


http://www.caseystratton....audio.html
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Reply #67 posted 06/05/09 9:04am

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ugh rolleyes
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Reply #68 posted 06/05/09 12:59pm

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VoicesCarry said:

There are no 8-year-olds at GaGa's shows. It's pretty clear who her fanbase is.

Not quite sure how "the kids might listen" is a reasonable argument for criticism of GaGa when we're on a Prince fan site (or ever, for that matter).
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so, who is her fanbase?
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Reply #69 posted 06/05/09 1:06pm

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VoicesCarry said:

There are no 8-year-olds at GaGa's shows. It's pretty clear who her fanbase is.

Not quite sure how "the kids might listen" is a reasonable argument for criticism of GaGa when we're on a Prince fan site (or ever, for that matter).
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so, who is her fanbase?


18-34 would be her strongest demographic
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Reply #70 posted 06/05/09 1:24pm

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so, who is her fanbase?


18-34 would be her strongest demographic


thanks, so I hit the nail with my guess - around 20.

at her concerts... besides Madonna and Lola, who visited them? Girls, boys?

I imagine, at this point GaGa might be a role model for young women.
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Reply #71 posted 06/05/09 1:34pm

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18-34 would be her strongest demographic


thanks, so I hit the nail with my guess - around 20.

at her concerts... besides Madonna and Lola, who visited them? Girls, boys?

I imagine, at this point GaGa might be a role model for young women.
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It's very mixed. A lot of women, a lot of men (many of them gay).
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Reply #72 posted 06/05/09 1:55pm

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VoicesCarry said:

graecophilos said:



so, who is her fanbase?


18-34 would be her strongest demographic


hmm Ok that explains it then. I'm out of her demo. I guess she's got an alright voice considering what's being marketed these days. I just don't see what the bru-haha over this woman is. shrug And this video... I guess I just don't get the appeal of the snuff film shots.
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Reply #73 posted 06/05/09 8:29pm

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rocknrolldave said:

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My 8 year old cousin loves Gaga. confused



Well, aside from the fact that that's just one person and not necessarily representative of the audience as a whole, do you think Lady GaGa should deliberately gear her music and videos towards 8 year olds? Or should she go ahead and try and make the points she wants to make, whoever is listening?


God, I'm not even saying that. I'd just like to see a pop star, any pop star, come out with a half decent message these days besides sexfamesexfamesexfame....
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Reply #74 posted 06/05/09 11:26pm

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purplesweat said:

rocknrolldave said:




Well, aside from the fact that that's just one person and not necessarily representative of the audience as a whole, do you think Lady GaGa should deliberately gear her music and videos towards 8 year olds? Or should she go ahead and try and make the points she wants to make, whoever is listening?


God, I'm not even saying that. I'd just like to see a pop star, any pop star, come out with a half decent message these days besides sexfamesexfamesexfame....


All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to If U Seek Amy

whistling
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Reply #75 posted 06/06/09 12:11am

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Bitch is killing it with the sales. 13 consecutive weeks in the Top 10 selling 40-50k/week. The album just passed 900k total sold in the US.

She could be one of the best selling artists of the year eek

Is the electropop revival finding itself back into the mainstream?
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Reply #76 posted 06/06/09 1:40am

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God, I'm not even saying that. I'd just like to see a pop star, any pop star, come out with a half decent message these days besides sexfamesexfamesexfame....


All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to If U Seek Amy

whistling


I despise that song like no other lol
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Reply #77 posted 06/06/09 2:16am

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purplesweat said:

rocknrolldave said:




Well, aside from the fact that that's just one person and not necessarily representative of the audience as a whole, do you think Lady GaGa should deliberately gear her music and videos towards 8 year olds? Or should she go ahead and try and make the points she wants to make, whoever is listening?


God, I'm not even saying that. I'd just like to see a pop star, any pop star, come out with a half decent message these days besides sexfamesexfamesexfame....

Man, I hear ya, but then they'd be labeled a "wholesome", "disney-esque" "goody goody" pop star and not taken seriously...at least until their breakdown...arrest...public nudity...SOME type of adversity where they can disappear for a hot minute then reinvent themselves and come back to public acclaim.

I happened to catch a small bit of the Pussycat Dolls "live" show on Palladia a couple of days ago. The hetero perv in me wanted to watch/drool/leer over these half-naked chicks writhing around on stage in front of all the pre-pubes in the audience, while the rational part of myself was wondering exactly what was "empowering" about wearing next-to-nothing in front of thousands of people and shaking your tits and ass.

Needless to say, the hetero perv locked the ration part in a closet and enjoyed what the small bit he saw... wink
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Reply #78 posted 06/06/09 3:55am

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bboy87 said:

VoicesCarry said:

Bitch is killing it with the sales. 13 consecutive weeks in the Top 10 selling 40-50k/week. The album just passed 900k total sold in the US.

She could be one of the best selling artists of the year eek

Is the electropop revival finding itself back into the mainstream?


you think she does electro-pop?

Poker Face is totally supposed to sound like Timbaland, even thise cheesy male voice throw ins.
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Reply #79 posted 06/06/09 5:36am

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Rogue588 said:

purplesweat said:



God, I'm not even saying that. I'd just like to see a pop star, any pop star, come out with a half decent message these days besides sexfamesexfamesexfame....

Man, I hear ya, but then they'd be labeled a "wholesome", "disney-esque" "goody goody" pop star and not taken seriously...at least until their breakdown...arrest...public nudity...SOME type of adversity where they can disappear for a hot minute then reinvent themselves and come back to public acclaim.

I happened to catch a small bit of the Pussycat Dolls "live" show on Palladia a couple of days ago. The hetero perv in me wanted to watch/drool/leer over these half-naked chicks writhing around on stage in front of all the pre-pubes in the audience, while the rational part of myself was wondering exactly what was "empowering" about wearing next-to-nothing in front of thousands of people and shaking your tits and ass.

Needless to say, the hetero perv locked the ration part in a closet and enjoyed what the small bit he saw... wink


There's nothing empowering about them (or hardly any other pop stars, except maybe Pink and sometimes Beyonce), the "empowering" response is just designed to shut critics up and blind young girls into believing they're looking up to the right kind of woman rolleyes
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Reply #80 posted 06/06/09 9:37am

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Complete rubbish. I waited 3 minutes for the actual song to start and then...Nothing. Unoriginal,uninspiring and I've seen/heard it all before. Her voice is paper thin and the theatrics remind me of a swap meet version of Madonna. Even the choreography was lame. My ears and eyes hurt now. Thanks Lady Garbage.
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Reply #81 posted 06/06/09 10:24am

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Complete rubbish. I waited 3 minutes for the actual song to start and then...Nothing. Unoriginal,uninspiring and I've seen/heard it all before. Her voice is paper thin and the theatrics remind me of a swap meet version of Madonna. Even the choreography was lame. My ears and eyes hurt now. Thanks Lady Garbage.


That's hot.
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Reply #82 posted 06/06/09 11:09am

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purplesweat said:

InsatiableCream said:



All of the boys and all of the girls are begging to If U Seek Amy

whistling


I despise that song like no other lol


totally falloff
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Reply #83 posted 06/08/09 2:28am

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Do anyone else like Quicksand by Britney Spears?

It was written by Lady GaGa.
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Reply #84 posted 06/08/09 3:57am

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purplesweat said:

Rogue588 said:


Man, I hear ya, but then they'd be labeled a "wholesome", "disney-esque" "goody goody" pop star and not taken seriously...at least until their breakdown...arrest...public nudity...SOME type of adversity where they can disappear for a hot minute then reinvent themselves and come back to public acclaim.

I happened to catch a small bit of the Pussycat Dolls "live" show on Palladia a couple of days ago. The hetero perv in me wanted to watch/drool/leer over these half-naked chicks writhing around on stage in front of all the pre-pubes in the audience, while the rational part of myself was wondering exactly what was "empowering" about wearing next-to-nothing in front of thousands of people and shaking your tits and ass.

Needless to say, the hetero perv locked the ration part in a closet and enjoyed what the small bit he saw... wink


There's nothing empowering about them (or hardly any other pop stars, except maybe Pink and sometimes Beyonce), the "empowering" response is just designed to shut critics up and blind young girls into believing they're looking up to the right kind of woman rolleyes



If young girls are looking up to GaGa, it appears to me it's more a reflection on their upbringing than it is on her. WTF would somebody be letting their kid look up to her for anyways? Did they not listen to Pokerface and get the imagery getting her boyfriend hard but wanting to fuck outside of the relationship? In all sincerity, I don't know any parents, American or otherwise whose children or even pre-teens are listening to GaGa, but then that would be because they are conscious of what type of material their kids are exposed to and take as much conscious action as possible to filter what they deem appropriate material for their kids' ears. On the converse side, even if certain songs slipped towards the kids, why wouldn't a parent explain how and why certain themes and imagery from the artist in question was not appropriate for their consumption, and thus hardly appropriate to put on a pedestal.....?

...no accounting for parenting skills, I guess bored2
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Reply #85 posted 06/08/09 3:57am

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Do anyone else like Quicksand by Britney Spears?

It was written by Lady GaGa.


I do, you can hear Gaga in the background, I'd almost call it a duet:



Lady penned the song "Quicksand" for Spears -- and confessed that her fave Brit song is the super sexy "Slave 4 U." Gaga says, "I've gotta say 'Slave 4 U' was a moment for everyone. When that b**** came out with that slammin' body and that sweaty video we were all like, 'We can't hate on you.' She ended every pop diva queen's life. It's a good video."


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Reply #86 posted 06/08/09 4:19am

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Great video and song
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Reply #87 posted 06/08/09 7:17am

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purplesweat said:



There's nothing empowering about them (or hardly any other pop stars, except maybe Pink and sometimes Beyonce), the "empowering" response is just designed to shut critics up and blind young girls into believing they're looking up to the right kind of woman rolleyes



If young girls are looking up to GaGa, it appears to me it's more a reflection on their upbringing than it is on her. WTF would somebody be letting their kid look up to her for anyways? Did they not listen to Pokerface and get the imagery getting her boyfriend hard but wanting to fuck outside of the relationship? In all sincerity, I don't know any parents, American or otherwise whose children or even pre-teens are listening to GaGa, but then that would be because they are conscious of what type of material their kids are exposed to and take as much conscious action as possible to filter what they deem appropriate material for their kids' ears. On the converse side, even if certain songs slipped towards the kids, why wouldn't a parent explain how and why certain themes and imagery from the artist in question was not appropriate for their consumption, and thus hardly appropriate to put on a pedestal.....?

...no accounting for parenting skills, I guess bored2


you sound so 55 yo and narrow minded.
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