SoulDogg said:

That is where u are quite wrong. I dig of most of his work, but not this cd. Even Dre's beats are pretty weak.
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blumer said:

THose are the most down to earth tunes. However I understand if you dont like the Slim Shady persona. I for one LOVES it. It was part of the reason I didnt like Eminem Show or 8 mile because his crazy side was not there at all. it's what brought me in. Hearing "Brain Damage" for the first time. It was kind of like an awakening to a side of rap I never heard before. Someone just spazzing out and talking about stuff no rapper would ever say..especially him being a white dude only heightened the experience.

Graycap23 said:

Than there I was wrong, but still have some more criticism if u want to begin a cd or what ever discuss.

SoulDogg said:

I hear u.

I´am hearing the cd right now, and if I look to the hip hop scene in the last decades, nobody ever did such of songs even the old Em cds aren´t compared to this cd.

Beautiful is my favorite song of the cd, you can feel his pain in his voice, second I would choose 3 A.M cause it´s lovely hard & Pschyco than underground/Ken Keniff it´s more the old style of Em but more gangsta and Ken Keniff crazy as always.

It´s a fresh start of Marshall Matters III again in the hip hop scene.

And love 2 hear Dr.Dre again in a song, a long time I didn´t hear him spit some new shizzle.

He´s lyrics are more Pshyco, he have improved in his Vocabulary and his wordplay. So my opinion is that it is a good cd.
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SoulDogg said:

It is! I feel like I am the only one who has the album even though 600,000 people bought it I cant seem to find anyone that can give me a great in depth review because even on the internet I see people judge it by his previous albums and personality rather than THE ALBUM itself...kind of how Rolling Stone reviews Prince's albums.


Anyway Beautiful is heart wrenching. That reminds me of stuff like "If I Had" and "Marshall Mathers" I think he is talking to his daughters in the chorus.

paisleypark4 said:

U can see it like that or u can see it universally, to every person that can think that or in that way.

SoulDogg said:

Thats the way I took it originally...but in a deeper sense I took it there. its not a classic, but its GOOD!! My money's worth.

Graycap23 said:

I read Dre produced all of it? That would be my only reason for checking it out

Cinnie said:

He did except for Beautiful Em produced that himself. Alot of the album has a dark spacey bass booming beat. Insane, Medecine Ball and Hello are the standout productions on the album in my opinion. Hello's beat is drum pattern heavy but the way it flows with his lyrical spasm; its crucial. Its like a slick Timbaland beat from 98.

paisleypark4 said:

thanks Ike

PaisleyPark4 said:
[/quote]It is! I feel like I am the only one who has the album even though 600,000 people bought it I cant seem to find anyone that can give me a great in depth review because even on the internet I see people judge it by his previous albums and personality rather than THE ALBUM itself...kind of how Rolling Stone reviews Prince's albums.[/quote]

yeah....well, i gave up on the org a while ago when it comes to people's opinion about new and interesting music .....i mean there is a Debarge sticky and people like vaindaddy invent words like 'shit-hop'.....wtf?

album was number one again this week

and as far as the song Beautiful is concerned, i read the lyrics first before listening and was pretty moved.....enough to post them on another thread to give a depressed person a little hope

Dre and Em.....great combo

this review says it all.....


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Posted: May 22, 2009 07:33 PM
Review: Eminem's Relapse
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Once again, Eminem just doesn't give a fuck. Perhaps he never stopped, but the results of his, ahem, care-free attitude are vastly different on his fifth major label release. Call it a return to form (with a twist), as there's a sharp lyricist's fervor -- recalling his days as a "true emcee" -- one that was wholly absent from The Eminem Show and Encore (his third and fourth records). Relapse recaptures the angry verbal acrobatics from those first two records that sold a cajillion copies and caused every white kid in the suburbs to pour peroxide in his hair. And yet, despite re-bottling that immature angst, Relapse is different and, in a way, it's mature.

Contemporary pop culture knows everything about Eminem. They've followed the violent turns and lawsuits of the marriages, divorces, re-marriages and re-divorces with his star-crossed and beloved Kim, mother of his also-famous daughter, Hailie. Even if we've rarely seen a photograph of Hailie, she's been a character in his rhymes since the now-teenager was a toddler. His life was fictionalized, tweaked really, for an Oscar-winning film. We know everything about Marshall Mathers...and on Relapse, he leaves Marshall behind. Instead, he embodies characters that we know aren't him, but allow him to re-channel the shock-and-awe rebellion (and skill) that made him great in the first place.

Marshall never murdered anyone, but Eminem more than ably begins Relapse with a vicious serial killer anecdote called "3 AM." Marshall wasn't molested as a child, but Eminem can open up "Insane" with "I was born with a dick in my brain/Yeah, fucked in the head/My step-father said that I sucked in the bed/Till one night he snuck in and said/'We're going out back, I want my dick sucked in the shed'/Can't we just play with Teddy Ruxpin instead?" Marshall never had a relationship with Mariah Carey, but Eminem can sure piss off Nick Cannon with the lyrical mastery found on the completely surreal "Bagpipes from Baghdad."

These characters aren't Eminem or Marshall or even Slim Shady...those personalities have finally solidified into an album of storytelling brilliance. The narrative no longer belongs to the writer.

Relapse isn't perfect, but the missteps are at least predictable. "We Made You" is the jokey first single that sounds beyond-dated in 2009. "Hello" is lackluster. "My Mom" retreads familiar territory even as Eminem tries to make it meta. And yes, there is that ridiculous hint of an accent (normally reserved for songs like "We Made You") sprinkled throughout serious tracks like "3 AM"...but it's certainly better than Auto-Tune (if not an all-out snide response to T-Pain's trick-du-jour).

Beginning with "The Way I Am," the final song recorded for arguably his best album, The Marshall Mathers LP, Eminem was stuck in a rut, dealing with his own fame. The Eminem Show and Encore were obsessed with his own celebrity and how he shielded himself from the public, and maybe from his creative center too.

Relapse all but abandons that mantra, until the end, when he unearths that demon from his back, once and for all, on "Beautiful" (It might not be a coincidence that "Beautiful" is the only pre-sobriety track included on Relapse, according to a recent Shade45 interview with Em). The track is succinct and paranoid and just bizarre enough to work, and might've been one of his greatest ever had he not wasted two albums on the concept already. But in the big picture, he's no longer rhyming about how famous he is and how hard it is to be famous...he finally just doesn't give a fuck.

And once you listen to the piggy-backing syllabic dexterity exploding all over "Underground," absolutely slaughtering an off-beat production few rappers (dead or alive) would ever even attempt, you won't give a fuck either. It's not the real story of Marshall Mathers, but it might be as close to real as rap gets.

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Okay, first off, I'll be honest and say that I haven't listened to Eminem's new CD, but if I find it at the library, I'll rent it and give it a spin...with headphones. Money is too tight for me to just be going out and buying every new album release that just piques my interest, especially if I'm not really a huge fan of the artist to begin with. I don't dislike Eminem, but I'm not a huge fan of his or the majority of hip-hop in general. I find most of it to be ridiculously violent, materialistically obsessed, sexist, or just downright stupid and a waste of perfectly good brain cells and time. Hearing about money, cars, bling, fucking bitches, beefing, and killing people for the majority of the album really isn't worth a listen from me no matter what genre of music these themes are put in.

That's probably why hip-hop is slowly dying, because most of them want to keep using these same assinine subjects over and over again on every 'new' album release. I can flip on the evening news and see this stuff; don't really need to hear it in song form. There seems to be only a few hip-hop artists who actually have something intelligent and positive to say and those are the ones that keep me from completely hating the genre all together.

I like that there are Eminem fans who aren't saying this is his best album, because there are many fans who insist on praising every single release that their favorite artist drops; and, that's unrealistic and a little fanatical to me. No artist releases a masterpiece with every new work, just my own personal opinion. Beauty is in the ear of the beholder after everything is all said and done.

Personally, I don't go out and spend money buying an album if I don't at least like most of the released singles. Unfortunately, this has backfired on me more than once because I've bought many albums where the lead singles were the only good songs on the entire album; and, the rest, I had to struggle to try and connect with. In the end, that album will end up sitting in my CD case, never to be played again. If after listening to a song for the first minute, I can't find anything worthwhile or amazing about it, than I could listen to it a million times and it would probably still just be okay to me.

Lastly, I'm extremely picky about who I give Soundscan points to because that's what many (not all) artists seem to want nowadays...that number 1 spot and that platinum status. I'm not helping anyone debut at number one with an album that offers nothing new, remotely interesting, or praise-worthy to me. After reading some of the reviews on here in regards to Em's new album; and, hearing many of the lead singles, which don't really impress me at all (mainly because he's been there and done that already IMO), it really doesn't sound like he's doing anything much different from his previous albums. I'll do believe that he's a really good MC and a great lyricist, but when the subject matter is something that I've heard more than once already, than a good delivery doesn't always overshadow the repetitive themes for me if I've heard about this subject a million times already; but that's just me.

Someone mentioned about how the .org just talks about MJ, Janet, Mariah, and Madonna alot, but most of those threads include a lot of .orgers who criticize these people. Mariah and Janet have been getting criticized for doing the same type of album over and over again with every 'new' album debut (I've criticized them for doing this more than once; and I'm a big fan of both of them), so if that's what Eminem did with 'Relapse', why should the reaction be any different for him just because he sits in a different genre from them? I'm not saying his album is horrible, but for an artist who has been in the game for over 10 years, I'm not going to praise him or anyone else for doing the same type of album as his previous albums...I feel the same way about Britney Spears; still don't understandy why she's getting praised.

I've already heard about his dislike for his mom, many times. I've heard him spoof other celebrities, many times. I've heard him make fun of Mariah already (still love 'Superman' to this day btw ), but I'm not going to bend over backwards to hear an album that doesn't offer anything different no matter who's album it is. I don't like Kanye, but even his last album was totally different from anything I'd heard from him, so I'll give him props for taking a chance and trying something new. This is all just my

I thought this website was interesting and just wondered if Eminem's album would really come out on top at the end of the year with some of these other heavy hitters of hip-hop also dropping releases. Will he pull a Lil' Wayne and be the highest selling album of 2009 over Jay-Z, 50, or any of the others on that list? Only time will tell.

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