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Reply #30 posted 05/21/09 9:06am

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paisleypark4 said:



Correct. Hip Hop albums with rappers who are more lyrically above their counterparts deserve to be listened to on headphones...then bumped after you directly stored the information. Eminem like Nas, Common and Talib need more attention than just the regular ringtone pop rapper


Lets add DOOM to that list. His last record lyrically is so AMAZING.

I don't know if Eminem is talking about his mom in his new record (I don't think he is), but by Grays comment I can tell he hated the record before he even listened so therefore what was the point of the review? To reaffirm your dislike for someone? W


Yeah he did talk about her on "My Mom" nod

My Mom love valium, and lot's of drugs
That's why I am, like I am, 'cause I'm like her!
Because My Mom love valium, and lot's of drugs
That's why I'm on, what I'm on, 'cause I'm My Mom!

[Verse 1]
My Mom, My Mom, I know you're probably tired
of hearing 'bout My Mom, oohoh-Woohoh
But this is just a story of when I was just a
shorty and how I became hooked on va-al-ium

Valium was in everything, food that I ate
The water that I drank, fuckin' peas on my plate
She sprinkled just enough of it, to season my steak
So everyday I'd have at least 3 stomach aches
Now tell me, what kinda mother would wanna see her
Son grow up to be an under-a-fucking-chiever
My teacher didn't think I was gonna be nothing either
What the fuck you stickin' gum up under the fucking seat for?
Mrs. Mathers, your son has been huffing ether
Either that or the motherfucker's been puffin' reefer
But all this huffin' and puffin' wasn't what it was either
It was neither, I was buzzin' but it wasn't what she thought
Pee in a teacup? Bitch you ain't my keeper, I'm sleepin'
What the fuck you keep on fuckin' with me for
Slut, you need to leave me the, fuck alone I ain't playin'
Go find you a white crayon, and colour a fuckin' zebra
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Reply #31 posted 05/21/09 9:07am

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Graycap23 said:

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I've listened to the new album a few times now.

It's better than 'Encore' and 'The Eminem Show', but nowhere near 'The Marshall Mathers LP', 'The Slim Shady LP' or 'Infinite'

Some good tracks. Some crap ones. Some inbetween ones. Pretty mediocre for the most parts but there are some standouts.

What are the standouts? Hurry I need 2 go back 2 the trashbin and retreive the cd.



I liked "Bagpipes From Baghdad", "Stay Wide Awake", "Old Time Sake", and "Deja Vu". Rest of the album was meh.
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Reply #32 posted 05/21/09 9:13am

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why is the ad promotion for it so gory and evil though?
Does this album promote killin etc?
I swear the words "HATER" is wayyy over-rated...smh
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Reply #33 posted 05/21/09 9:17am

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paisleypark4 said:

larksanders said:




No what I find funny is that someone gave a review while not actually listening to the record. Didn't Gray say it was on the background while he was doing other things?

How the fuck can you give a HIP HOP record a review without listening to the lyrics?

I am no Eminem fan, but I can admit that he is very talented as an MC. But I guess you have love and appreciate HIP HOP to understand. Whats the point? most people here want to talk about Mariah, Michael, and Janet anyway. So lost....


Correct. Hip Hop albums with rappers who are more lyrically above their counterparts deserve to be listened to on headphones...then bumped after you directly stored the information. Eminem like Nas, Common and Talib need more attention than just the regular ringtone pop rapper


Naw dude i wasn't getting bent out of shape. I'm just trippin off of
Em fans who are fighting back with the standard old you haven't even
listened to the lyrics and you are just hating him for the wrong reasons.
In a nutshell, i've never really dug the dude from day one. For those
close minded people that assume i don't like him because he's a white
rapper that theory fails because i can name even more black rappers
whom i don't care for. There's only like 2 records from the dude that
that have actually kept my interest from beginning to end one of
which is lose yourself. You just said on a recent thread that you've never
been into lionel richie or the commodores and that's understandable based
on what you've heard from them. So if you've never been a fan it's highly
unlikely in 2009 you will become a lionel richie fan whether you've heard
3 songs or all of his new album. If you've never liked tribe called quest
in the 90's it's highly unlikely you'll become a fan now. It's the same
way with me listening to eminem. For the record, imho he is not on the same
level with common, nas, talib kweli, black thought. lol
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Reply #34 posted 05/21/09 10:46am

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phunkdaddy said:

paisleypark4 said:



Correct. Hip Hop albums with rappers who are more lyrically above their counterparts deserve to be listened to on headphones...then bumped after you directly stored the information. Eminem like Nas, Common and Talib need more attention than just the regular ringtone pop rapper


Naw dude i wasn't getting bent out of shape. I'm just trippin off of
Em fans who are fighting back with the standard old you haven't even
listened to the lyrics and you are just hating him for the wrong reasons.
In a nutshell, i've never really dug the dude from day one. For those
close minded people that assume i don't like him because he's a white
rapper that theory fails because i can name even more black rappers
whom i don't care for. There's only like 2 records from the dude that
that have actually kept my interest from beginning to end one of
which is lose yourself. You just said on a recent thread that you've never
been into lionel richie or the commodores and that's understandable based
on what you've heard from them. So if you've never been a fan it's highly
unlikely in 2009 you will become a lionel richie fan whether you've heard
3 songs or all of his new album. If you've never liked tribe called quest
in the 90's it's highly unlikely you'll become a fan now. It's the same
way with me listening to eminem
. For the record, imho he is not on the same
level with common, nas, talib kweli, black thought. lol



On that mentality. I don't criticize Lionel or the Commodores because I really to be honest don't KNOW enough to JUDGE them. Their singles just have not caught my attention.

However I see many people on here who don't even own the album base ther entire judgement on the man from the media and not from the music. It's just like all the people who never buy Princes new albums but still say his new stuff is wack. There responses don't even matter. How is it going to benefit anyone and me to HATE Lionel when I never cared to buy his stuff?
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Reply #35 posted 05/21/09 8:48pm

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I like Deja Vu too. He is seriously talking about his alcohol and valium addiction and trying to hide the fact from his daughter.

He is a storyteller, that's what I like about him alot. May be talking to a brick wall...god..Cinne where are you sad
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Reply #36 posted 05/22/09 6:02am

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Militant said:

Graycap23 said:


What are the standouts? Hurry I need 2 go back 2 the trashbin and retreive the cd.



I liked "Bagpipes From Baghdad", "Stay Wide Awake", "Old Time Sake", and "Deja Vu". Rest of the album was meh.

I'll have 2 give it another shot. I hope I can salvage something from the disk.
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Reply #37 posted 05/22/09 7:50am

japanrocks

I kinda agree that his best days are behind him but there is enough on this new release to make me think he still has skills.....this is my fave....



not sure what the Christopher Reeve diss is about.....but the Dre beat is classic
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Reply #38 posted 05/22/09 7:53am

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Graycap23 said:

Militant said:




I liked "Bagpipes From Baghdad", "Stay Wide Awake", "Old Time Sake", and "Deja Vu". Rest of the album was meh.

I'll have 2 give it another shot. I hope I can salvage something from the disk.




Alot better than Eminem Show and Encore. Only one track feat 50, two with Dre (including the one with 50). Think you should Listen Without Prejudice ....and headphone
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Reply #39 posted 05/22/09 7:55am

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paisleypark4 said:

Graycap23 said:


I'll have 2 give it another shot. I hope I can salvage something from the disk.




Alot better than Eminem Show and Encore. Only one track feat 50, two with Dre (including the one with 50). Think you should Listen Without Prejudice ....and headphone

I always listen without prejudice. I love hearing "good" new music.
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Reply #40 posted 05/22/09 8:46am

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Graycap23 said:

paisleypark4 said:





Alot better than Eminem Show and Encore. Only one track feat 50, two with Dre (including the one with 50). Think you should Listen Without Prejudice ....and headphone

I always listen without prejudice. I love hearing "good" new music.


1. "Dr. West"
2. "3 a.m."
3. "My Mom"
4. "Insane"
5. "Bagpipes from Baghdad"
6. "Hello"
8. "Same Song & Dance"
16. "Déjà Vu"
17. "Beautiful"
20. "Underground"

If anything give these ones a try. havent heard a good storytelling rap album in a good minute. Probably since his last album. I always feel like I am being taken down a path of a tale. REading a journal...
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Reply #41 posted 05/22/09 9:01am

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paisleypark4 said:

Graycap23 said:


I always listen without prejudice. I love hearing "good" new music.


1. "Dr. West"
2. "3 a.m."
3. "My Mom"
4. "Insane"
5. "Bagpipes from Baghdad"
6. "Hello"
8. "Same Song & Dance"
16. "Déjà Vu"
17. "Beautiful"
20. "Underground"

If anything give these ones a try. havent heard a good storytelling rap album in a good minute. Probably since his last album. I always feel like I am being taken down a path of a tale. REading a journal...

I'll check them out.....with headphones.
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Reply #42 posted 05/22/09 11:09am

midnightmover

Sounds to me like he's at the same point Prince was at in the mid-'90s. Past his best, but still showing signs of the old magic here and there.
“The man who never looks into a newspaper is better informed than he who reads them, inasmuch as he who knows nothing is nearer to truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors.”
- Thomas Jefferson
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Reply #43 posted 05/22/09 11:29am

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midnightmover said:

Sounds to me like he's at the same point Prince was at in the mid-'90s. Past his best, but still showing signs of the old magic here and there.


It has been 11 years ay? u right
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Reply #44 posted 05/25/09 12:52am

japanrocks

I bet he pushes Green Day to number 2 but then Green Day stays in the top 20 longer
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Reply #45 posted 05/25/09 12:55am

purplesweat

I can't believe he devotes an entire track to a story about a step father having sex with his step son.

I hope to God he's not singing from experience but geez, why would he think anyone wants to hear about that?
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Reply #46 posted 05/25/09 12:14pm

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Poor attempt at a comeback.
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Reply #47 posted 05/25/09 5:24pm

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Annihilator said:

Poor attempt at a comeback.



What I dont get is how come nobody has a real attempt at posting WHY they think so with valuable merit. Where is the insight people?
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Reply #48 posted 05/25/09 5:40pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Annihilator said:

Poor attempt at a comeback.



What I dont get is how come nobody has a real attempt at posting WHY they think so with valuable merit. Where is the insight people?


It doesn't sound good.
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Reply #49 posted 05/25/09 5:49pm

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Annihilator said:

paisleypark4 said:




What I dont get is how come nobody has a real attempt at posting WHY they think so with valuable merit. Where is the insight people?


It doesn't sound good.



....aaaanndd..... *couch cough* ....examples are.....and the reson why is....
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Reply #50 posted 05/25/09 7:18pm

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paisleypark4 said:

Annihilator said:

Poor attempt at a comeback.



What I dont get is how come nobody has a real attempt at posting WHY they think so with valuable merit. Where is the insight people?

cuz he sucks
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Reply #51 posted 05/25/09 8:11pm

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BoOTyLiCioUs said:

paisleypark4 said:




What I dont get is how come nobody has a real attempt at posting WHY they think so with valuable merit. Where is the insight people?

cuz he sucks


lol
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Reply #52 posted 05/25/09 9:21pm

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to hell with ya'll im out
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Reply #53 posted 05/26/09 12:48am

japanrocks

great comeback

watch his new release go to number one this week
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Reply #54 posted 06/01/09 3:09am

Mara

It's not as bad as you think.
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Reply #55 posted 06/01/09 6:32am

japanrocks

just like i said

eminem number one

green day number two
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Reply #56 posted 06/01/09 8:12am

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great comeback

watch his new release go to number one this week




Now that I finished the album I believe this piece is of merit to his previous albums. It's actually not as depressing as Eminem Show and alot more personal than Encore. I'd put it right under the Marshall album.
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Reply #57 posted 06/01/09 10:49am

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Graycap23 said:

Sounds like a cartoon. What a mess.


What kind of criticism is that? I mean okay u don´t like Eminem, it´s cool to me but damn don´t begin a topic like that, have a better point to begin.

Another Point did u ever tried to rap a song of him? Or even tried ur self to write a lyric and get the Flow on it with the beat?

I can tell ya is quite difficult.

What I have heard of his new cd I think it's way more better than the hip hop nowadays, Lyrically he is one of the best in the hip hop scene nowadays. Eminen Writes about things that a lot of people can relate on, it's not about cars, chicks and Bling Bling, look at that first off all than Critique his cd. And u have the funny/crazy stuff of Slim Shady, Personally I skip those songs cause I am more into lyrics that someone can relate on it, that he spit about something real in this society, but still he marks his teritory with those songs.
"The Power of mankind, is the power of those that can find some peace of mind."

"The desire of a man is have a woman who understand all his situations."

Sign Soul Dogg
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Reply #58 posted 06/01/09 10:53am

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SoulDogg said:

Graycap23 said:

Sounds like a cartoon. What a mess.


What kind of criticism is that? I mean okay u don´t like Eminem, it´s cool to me but damn don´t begin a topic like that, have a better point to begin.

Another Point did u ever tried to rap a song of him? Or even tried ur self to write a lyric and get the Flow on it with the beat?

I can tell ya is quite difficult.

What I have heard of his new cd I think it's way more better than the hip hop nowadays, Lyrically he is one of the best in the hip hop scene nowadays. Eminen Writes about things that a lot of people can relate on, it's not about cars, chicks and Bling Bling, look at that first off all than Critique his cd. And u have the funny/crazy stuff of Slim Shady, Personally I skip those songs cause I am more into lyrics that someone can relate on it, that he spit about something real in this society, but still he marks his teritory with those songs.



Ya dig? That's what i don't get. Everybody on here say they want people to NOT rap about cars girls and jewlery, but they so closed minded that they cant even see when someone is NOT doing that at all. Eminem...NEVER stooped to the sellout rap music level. He is as real as they come in mainstream
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Reply #59 posted 06/01/09 1:03pm

blumer

Em spazzes out on Underground, my personal fav on the album and nice closer, hope Relapse 2 continues in this vain.


Album was a grower to me and enjoy pretty much every song with We Made You and Crack A Bottle being the worst. 3 AM is really good, Deja Vu, Beautiful, Stay Wide Awake are all dope. Still doesn't have a Stan or The Way I Am or Lose Yourself standout song but still a vast improvement over Encore which had 3 or 4 good tracks at best.


Edit: Underground link (Criminal Part 2 basically, but if you don't enjoy this you don't enjoy Em)
http://www.youtube.com/wa...sHh7yJBVcU
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