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Printablescriptgirl said: Just because I don't like Marvin doesn't mean my posting rights should be revoked.
You must be pretty young to not get the genius of Marvin. It's not that you LIKE him or NOT. It's about the respect. Like I said earlier, I'm not a big Sly fan, but I do RESPECT him for his creativity and work. He did some incredible work and influenced everyone from Prince and MJ to Gamble and Huff. Same can be said for James Brown. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Wekk, I'm a HUGE Sly fan and I LOVE Donny and Curtis. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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scriptgirl said: Wekk, I'm a HUGE Sly fan and I LOVE Donny and Curtis.
What is it about Marvin Gaye that you don't like? Prince believes he is a musical prophet that has been chosen by Jehova to guide his fans to the "truth". | |
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Ego Tripping Out (the Odyssey mix):
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It's not anyone thing. Just certain people you don't have an affinity for. Like I don't have affinity for MJ, but I love P. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Guess what? The DeBarges weren't the only conflicted Christians:
Taken from Belgium in '81. | |
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scriptgirl said: It's not anyone thing. Just certain people you don't have an affinity for. Like I don't have affinity for MJ, but I love P.
Are you a bigger fan of the person as a singer? Or as an artist? There is a difference. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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THe only MJ music I like is from "Off the Wall", which is I think is one of the most perfect cds ever.
Prince, I just love. Always have, always will. Can't explain it really. He speaks to me in a way most don't. "Lack of home training crosses all boundaries." | |
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Does most fans have the box set?
 "Funkyslsistah… you ain't funky at all, you just a little ol' prude"!
"It's just my imagination, once again running away with me." | |
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 TIMMY!!! | |
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God Is Love (the 45" version):
http://www.imeem.com/rnbm...d-is-love/ Sad Tomorrows (the 1970 version of "Flying High in the Friendly Sky"): http://www.imeem.com/rnbm...tomorrows/ | |
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funkpill said: TIMMY!!!Hey, Funk!  | |
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funkyslsistah said: Does most fans have the box set?
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Timmy84 said: funkpill said: TIMMY!!!Hey, Funk! Teach em!!! 
And this is a young blood school'n U purple heads | |
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funkpill said: Timmy84 said: Hey, Funk! Teach em!!!
And this is a young blood school'n U purple heads I try.  | |
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Timmy84 said: funkpill said: Teach em!!!
And this is a young blood school'n U purple heads I try. I have said this time and time again....This is why I hang out here. There so so much knowledge here. We all have so much to offer to one another, Timmy is well versed in Marvin, Ness does his thing, etc. It makes logging on worth while... "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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shorttrini said: Timmy84 said: I try. I have said this time and time again....This is why I hang out here. There so so much knowledge here. We all have so much to offer to one another, Timmy is well versed in Marvin, Ness does his thing, etc. It makes logging on worth while... Sometimes where there's too much drama going on, you have to find a way to get around especially in threads that invite drama. I use it with music. This thread was a perfect chance to do so. Nice posting, TD3. | |
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TD3 said: Does anyone know if this concert is on DVD or cd? I don't think this is the concert that is on the Deluxe Edition of What's Going On...is it? It's been a while since I've heard it. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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daPrettyman said: TD3 said: Does anyone know if this concert is on DVD or cd? I don't think this is the concert that is on the Deluxe Edition of What's Going On...is it? It's been a while since I've heard it. Yes, it's out on DVD - http://www.amazon.com/Rea...B000EPFDAI [Edited 5/20/09 16:49pm] | |
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Apples and oranges! Never cared for this conversation when it meant assigning supremecy to a particular fruit. (This used to be an all too common format for discussing women rappers. And where all my ladies at these days anyway?)
Sure, from a critical perspective we can say that some work is more thoughtful and complex, clearly reflecting more musicality or talent, addressing deeper and more important cultural rivers ... pleasing us more than others. But you say tomato and I say tomoto - personal preference reflecting this place we call earth. And while I am a Million Miles ("I Love You"), 10 Zillion light years in fact, away from the person who stated that Marvin is over-rated, I love it when someone just says what is on their mind. And then we can get at it. Sure, I love watermelon and pears the best. But I'll eat a mango or a papaya now and then, you know? ...but don't get me started on them damn peaches with that crazy texture on the wrapping.  | |
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Timmy84 said: Brendan said: 
I like that. The things is, the more one is influenced, I believe the better off they will be. This of course provided that someone doesn't just walk around like a textbook, passing off carbon copies as if they were originals. What's really arrogant to me is anyone who thinks that they truly invent anything without massive/majority contributions from the past. And that's the beauty of it. Thing about artists like James, Ray, Marvin and Sly is that THEY ADMIT what influenced them. Doo-wop, blues, jazz and gospel was part of Marvin's psyche, he was influenced by doo-wop groups, by Sam Cooke, by jazz crooners, by the Pentecostal church; James had Louis Jordan, Little Richard and Little Willie John; Ray was influenced by gospel, jazz and country music and by musicians like Art Tatum, Nat "King" Cole (Marvin too) and Charles Brown; Sly learned from James, Sam, Motown and, some say, Jimi. Thing about Prince that is interesting is he NEVER admits to WHO he is influenced by though you see it in all of his music. In his funk music, Sly, James, Shuggie and George creep in it, in his more soulful music, Marvin, Chaka, Smokey and 'em I can definitely hear in Prince's falsetto. In his guitar playing, you hear Jimi and Carlos, Ernie Isley and Eddie Hazel, in his overall instrumentation, Todd Rundgren is an influence. And this is a man who claims he don't like men singing...yeah right Prince. In Prince's more mysterious days I would completely agree that he was less than forthcoming with regards to influence. But after he built a name for himself he has mentioned many influences, especially if they were black of either sex or white women (Joni Mitchell he can't say enough good things about). Perhaps he doesn't do it as graciously as he should ("I would be nothing without this person and that person"), but he has given many interviews where he shows tremendous passion for the music of the past (he once indicated that George Clinton should be made president due to his enormous musical contributions.) But Prince does still seem to go out of his way to feign a complete lack of knowledge of almost anyone who is both male and white; especially those as popular as The Beatles. You certainly don't have to like The Beatles, but it's quite impossible to completely avoid them.
But I can possibly understand a bit of where he's coming from when everyone and their brother seems to be praising some of these people already and you see your own race constantly misrepresented and undervalued. #!$@$ [Edited 5/20/09 19:45pm] | |
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Brendan said: Timmy84 said: And that's the beauty of it. Thing about artists like James, Ray, Marvin and Sly is that THEY ADMIT what influenced them. Doo-wop, blues, jazz and gospel was part of Marvin's psyche, he was influenced by doo-wop groups, by Sam Cooke, by jazz crooners, by the Pentecostal church; James had Louis Jordan, Little Richard and Little Willie John; Ray was influenced by gospel, jazz and country music and by musicians like Art Tatum, Nat "King" Cole (Marvin too) and Charles Brown; Sly learned from James, Sam, Motown and, some say, Jimi. Thing about Prince that is interesting is he NEVER admits to WHO he is influenced by though you see it in all of his music. In his funk music, Sly, James, Shuggie and George creep in it, in his more soulful music, Marvin, Chaka, Smokey and 'em I can definitely hear in Prince's falsetto. In his guitar playing, you hear Jimi and Carlos, Ernie Isley and Eddie Hazel, in his overall instrumentation, Todd Rundgren is an influence. And this is a man who claims he don't like men singing...yeah right Prince. In Prince's more mysterious days I would completely agree that he was less than forthcoming with regards to influence. But after he built a name for himself he has mentioned many influences, especially if they were black of either sex or white women (Joni Mitchell he can't say enough good things about). Perhaps he doesn't do it as graciously as he should ("I would be nothing without this person and that person"), but he has given many interviews where he shows tremendous passion for the music of the past (he once indicated that George Clinton should be made president due to his enormous musical contributions.) But Prince does still seem to go out of his way to feign a complete lack of knowledge of almost anyone who is both male and white; especially those as popular as The Beatles. You certainly don't have to like The Beatles, but it's quite impossible to completely avoid them.
But I can possibly understand a bit of where he's coming from when everyone and their brother seems to be praising some of these people already and you see your own race constantly misrepresented and undervalued. #!$@$ [Edited 5/20/09 19:45pm] In Prince's early days, he didn't have to mention where he got his influence from . It was so predictable. He used the mic stand like James, setup his band like Sly and did his own music. "Sexy Dancer" could have easily been a James Brown groove. **--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••--**--••**--••-
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Here's an interesting article from People Magazine on Marvin Gaye....http://www.people.com/peo...92,00.html
I am a fan of Marvin Gaye and Prince, but yall are wrong for adding El Debarge up on this thread in comparison...LOL! He can't hold a candle to neither of those artist in my opinion. As far as Nona Gaye dating Prince she said the relationship was VERY superficial. I bet Marvin Gaye rolled over in his grave since it was beef between him and Prince. They both shine in their own right! El is a whole different issue. However I do like his rendition of Sexual Healing and After the Dance. I am not sure what's wrong, but it's probably your fault! | |
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Nona Marvisa Gaye stands 5'10 at least. I'd really like to have seen the stiletto hills Prince wore when they painted the town!  The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines.  | |
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daPrettyman said: scriptgirl said: Not a fan of Marvin's. Never have been.
I wasn't either until I got the "Let's Get It On" album. Then I fell in LOVE with his music. Nor was I until while being deployed to Operation Desert Storm I heard"Distant Lover" I was so moved, It spoke to me and I've been hooked every since. Not every album but "Let's Get It On" "I Want You" and "Here My Dear" are the ones I feel the most conected to. For any man that's ever been through the trials ups and downs of a divorce and baby mama drama " Here My Dear" will speak to you. | |
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Graycap23 said: Just curious. Is there anybody who did not influence Prince?
lol good question. but the answer is probably no. he seems to be able to incorporate a lot of influences into a style of it's own it's kinda hard to tell sometimes. When I hear "Money Don't Matter" I hear a Steely Dan sound, with "Willing and Able" I hear Curtis Mayfield and the Gospel screams of Aretha Franklin, when I hear "Soft and Wet" I hear the Emotions. I've never heard an artist who could do pop,gospel,rock,r&b,blues effectively. | |
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daingermouz2020 said: daPrettyman said: I wasn't either until I got the "Let's Get It On" album. Then I fell in LOVE with his music. Nor was I until while being deployed to Operation Desert Storm I heard"Distant Lover" I was so moved, It spoke to me and I've been hooked every since. Not every album but "Let's Get It On" "I Want You" and "Here My Dear" are the ones I feel the most connected to. For any man that's ever been through the trials ups and downs of a divorce and baby mama drama " Here My Dear" will speak to you. Your reason for liking an artist is probably the most accurate reason, because you connected with his music. This is one of the reason's why I started digging early Babyface. The songs that he wrote for himself and other people seemed to touched me. Babyface is not the greatest singer in the world, but Face had the ability to sing exactly whatever it was that I was feeling at the time. With Marvin, it was the same thing. I cannot listen to "What's Going On" or "Hear My Dear", without tearing up, because the words hit me like a freight train. "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" | |
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Chic35 said: Nona Marvisa Gaye stands 5'10 at least. I'd really like to have seen the stiletto hills Prince wore when they painted the town!
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OldTeenager said: Here's an interesting article from People Magazine on Marvin Gaye....http://www.people.com/peo...92,00.html
I am a fan of Marvin Gaye and Prince, but yall are wrong for adding El Debarge up on this thread in comparison...LOL! He can't hold a candle to neither of those artist in my opinion. As far as Nona Gaye dating Prince she said the relationship was VERY superficial. I bet Marvin Gaye rolled over in his grave since it was beef between him and Prince. They both shine in their own right! El is a whole different issue. However I do like his rendition of Sexual Healing and After the Dance. Was there really beef between Prince and Marvin?  Did these guys even meet each other? I know that,in 1979,Marvin was a little concerned that the "younger cats" (Rick James,Prince) were stealing his thunder,but I thought it was just a case of friendly competition. | |
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