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Thread started 05/19/09 9:05pm

sovembol

American Idol???

What is your pick for overall Idol winner??
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Reply #1 posted 05/19/09 11:09pm

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adam
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Reply #2 posted 05/19/09 11:31pm

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I prefer Lambert, but I think if Kris Allen takes it, we would have the upset of the year and some fantastic TV. I think Adam's career would b bettered 4 it.
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Reply #3 posted 05/19/09 11:42pm

ernestsewell

Adam, but Kris might be the dark horse this year and win it.
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Reply #4 posted 05/19/09 11:46pm

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I watched it once when there were like 4 male contestants left. Couldn't really tell those ones from each other either by their looks or the way they sang.

During the previous seasons at least there was a dreadlocked Stevie Wonder wannabe or a an overweight karaoke singer surviving the last rounds, so it was sort of easier. confused
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Reply #5 posted 05/19/09 11:53pm

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Adam is already a star and he could easily win it .....however the teens and young girls could easily put him in the winning spot. which ever way it goes both of the guys will have successful albums in the near future.



I personally think Idols final two should have been Adam and Allison the decision would be much more tough to decide....

Danny good voice yes ....overall package for American Idol not sure
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Reply #6 posted 05/20/09 12:03am

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Adam! beg
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Reply #7 posted 05/20/09 3:30am

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the winner's single?.... what a redundant bunch of cliche drivel
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Reply #8 posted 05/20/09 6:11am

Graycap23

I has 2 be Adam.
If Chris was any more average, they would call him the letter "C".
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Reply #9 posted 05/20/09 8:01am

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Graycap23 said:

I has 2 be Adam.
If Chris was any more average, they would call him the letter "C".

Don't you mean "K"? His name is spelled with a K. wink
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Reply #10 posted 05/20/09 8:06am

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daPrettyman said:

Graycap23 said:

I has 2 be Adam.
If Chris was any more average, they would call him the letter "C".

Don't you mean "K"? His name is spelled with a K. wink

Either way.....lol.
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Reply #11 posted 05/20/09 8:39am

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a tie! excited




no i really don't know but if Adam's allowed to cut loose with some over the top dancers like I've seen in some youtube videos I hope he wins. nod
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Reply #12 posted 05/20/09 8:54am

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adam is amazing but chris killed that shit with heartless; best performance of the year.
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Reply #13 posted 05/20/09 8:55am

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matthewgrant said:

a tie! excited




no i really don't know but if Adam's allowed to cut loose with some over the top dancers like I've seen in some youtube videos I hope he wins. nod
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If Adam wins, they will be doing some damage control for sure. He will have to keep his sexuality private for the masses. He may be seen in public with his significant other, but I think that 19 Entertainment will want to handle it like Ricky Martin's camp has handled his for years.
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Reply #14 posted 05/20/09 9:00am

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I think Adam will most definitely win this one.
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Reply #15 posted 05/20/09 9:16am

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daPrettyman said:

matthewgrant said:

a tie! excited




no i really don't know but if Adam's allowed to cut loose with some over the top dancers like I've seen in some youtube videos I hope he wins. nod
http://www.youtube.com/wa...Blmcak7cuA

If Adam wins, they will be doing some damage control for sure. He will have to keep his sexuality private for the masses. He may be seen in public with his significant other, but I think that 19 Entertainment will want to handle it like Ricky Martin's camp has handled his for years.

Really? People still care about this stuff?
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Reply #16 posted 05/20/09 9:29am

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Graycap23 said:

daPrettyman said:


If Adam wins, they will be doing some damage control for sure. He will have to keep his sexuality private for the masses. He may be seen in public with his significant other, but I think that 19 Entertainment will want to handle it like Ricky Martin's camp has handled his for years.

Really? People still care about this stuff?


oh yeah nod who ever wins American Idol is a product. let's not forget. his target audience will be tween age girls while he's signed with them. Even if one person minds so will his boss.

Maybe things will be different but there are alot of people in the biz still in the closet for that very reason.
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Reply #17 posted 05/20/09 9:45am

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Graycap23 said:

daPrettyman said:


If Adam wins, they will be doing some damage control for sure. He will have to keep his sexuality private for the masses. He may be seen in public with his significant other, but I think that 19 Entertainment will want to handle it like Ricky Martin's camp has handled his for years.

Really? People still care about this stuff?

Yep. Especially in mainstream America.

I grew up in a very small East Texas town. You should hear some of the comments that a lot of people make about topics like gays, Obama and other social issues.

I was on Facebook chatting with a classmate of mine and she was so furious at Obama for cutting out the abstinence program. She said things that I wouldn't dare say about him and his policy. She was born and raised in the East Texas area and has never left. It's sad to say, but there are millions of people like that in the US.

I find it ironic that in the area I grew up in, a lot of people talk about how they hate gay people. However, a lot of the gay guys I've met since I've been an adult in the Dallas and Houston area grew up in East Texas. One guy I met says that there must be something in the water because he knew so many gay guys from that area. lol

So, yes, I know that there are still people that care about that. I'm sure if you talk to a lot of people in KY, AL, GA, MS, MO, etc. you will find a LOT of people are still very conservative.
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Reply #18 posted 05/20/09 9:46am

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matthewgrant said:

Graycap23 said:


Really? People still care about this stuff?


oh yeah nod who ever wins American Idol is a product. let's not forget. his target audience will be tween age girls while he's signed with them. Even if one person minds so will his boss.

Maybe things will be different but there are alot of people in the biz still in the closet for that very reason.

So true, Matt. Someone that is 12 years old has to have a heartthrob to look at and download their music. lol
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Reply #19 posted 05/20/09 9:54am

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If Adam wins, they will be doing some damage control for sure. He will have to keep his sexuality private for the masses. He may be seen in public with his significant other, but I think that 19 Entertainment will want to handle it like Ricky Martin's camp has handled his for years.


Okay I'm going to use your comment as a forum for my reply on this matter. Not everything is a direct reply to you of course. I'm just covering some points in general.

Adam Lambert isn't in the closet. He probably never has been. He ain't hiding anything either, before, during or after. There are a mass of videos and pictures of him out on the web and many were posted BEFORE he was on idol. He has friends and friends posted pics. HE posted pics. He's in drag or some sort of theatrical attire, performing in clubs, etc. I hope he wins JUST so we have the first out gay American Idol.

He's not the first contestant to be gay. Jim Verraros, Clay Aiken, RJ Hilton, and others have been gay.

Now, for the issue of being OUT. Gay people do NOT have to announce "I'm gay!" to the world to be considered out. Why do straight people, or even other gay folks, think there has to be some huge announcement for a gay person to be "out" ? Do straight people announce they're a breeder when they are in the public eye, or even among friends? Oh, it's because people ASSUME they're straight until told otherwise. I wonder what would happen if we assumed everyone was gay. EVERYONE was gay, until they announced otherwise. Sounds preposterous doesn't it?

Adam is out, and gay. His family knows, his friends know. The people that matter to him on a one to one basis know he's gay. And as a gay man let me say (and other gay folks here might agree with me on this), being gay is about 10% of who you are on a day to day basis, that 10% being who I'm attracted to. Otherwise there is no difference. A gay guy can still kick your ass, and you have nothing but the bragging rights to tell your buddies that a fag beat you up.

I say all that to say, Enetertainment 19 isn't going to try and squelch his gay side, and make him into something he's not. He's too strong of a personality and person for that, I think. Clay hid because he was probably in denial about it, being secretive about it. Ricky Martin's camp handled it based on Ricky, if he is gay, not wanting anything to come out. Regular gay folks are just who they are, like Adam. If someone happens to realize we're gay, so what, who cares. We know Adam as a great singer and performer, with that Axl Rose/Steven Tyler type voice. Oh, he's gay? Yeah, who cares.
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ernestsewell said:

daPrettyman said:

If Adam wins, they will be doing some damage control for sure. He will have to keep his sexuality private for the masses. He may be seen in public with his significant other, but I think that 19 Entertainment will want to handle it like Ricky Martin's camp has handled his for years.


Okay I'm going to use your comment as a forum for my reply on this matter. Not everything is a direct reply to you of course. I'm just covering some points in general.

Adam Lambert isn't in the closet. He probably never has been. He ain't hiding anything either, before, during or after. There are a mass of videos and pictures of him out on the web and many were posted BEFORE he was on idol. He has friends and friends posted pics. HE posted pics. He's in drag or some sort of theatrical attire, performing in clubs, etc. I hope he wins JUST so we have the first out gay American Idol.

He's not the first contestant to be gay. Jim Verraros, Clay Aiken, RJ Hilton, and others have been gay.

Now, for the issue of being OUT. Gay people do NOT have to announce "I'm gay!" to the world to be considered out. Why do straight people, or even other gay folks, think there has to be some huge announcement for a gay person to be "out" ? Do straight people announce they're a breeder when they are in the public eye, or even among friends? Oh, it's because people ASSUME they're straight until told otherwise. I wonder what would happen if we assumed everyone was gay. EVERYONE was gay, until they announced otherwise. Sounds preposterous doesn't it?

Adam is out, and gay. His family knows, his friends know. The people that matter to him on a one to one basis know he's gay. And as a gay man let me say (and other gay folks here might agree with me on this), being gay is about 10% of who you are on a day to day basis, that 10% being who I'm attracted to. Otherwise there is no difference. A gay guy can still kick your ass, and you have nothing but the bragging rights to tell your buddies that a fag beat you up.

I say all that to say, Enetertainment 19 isn't going to try and squelch his gay side, and make him into something he's not. He's too strong of a personality and person for that, I think. Clay hid because he was probably in denial about it, being secretive about it. Ricky Martin's camp handled it based on Ricky, if he is gay, not wanting anything to come out. Regular gay folks are just who they are, like Adam. If someone happens to realize we're gay, so what, who cares. We know Adam as a great singer and performer, with that Axl Rose/Steven Tyler type voice. Oh, he's gay? Yeah, who cares.

Thanks for saying that.

I don't think 19 is going to try to squelch his gay side, but they are going to make him be quiet about it (at least until they make their money). During all of the press interviews, Adam was asked about his sexuality. The only thing he would say was that he knew who he was. With him doing that, that tells me that 19 is telling him to not to confirm or deny anything until he wins. If he then wins, they will do something different.

I think Adam is definitely a strong personality, but he wants to make it big. I think he would be willing to do anything it takes to get there also (except for maybe play it straight). Now, that's not to say that it's any different than the way they handled Clay Aiken's career either.

BTW, what happened with RJ Helton? Last I heard, he made a gospel album and was being managed by Matthew Knowles. I know that Matthew is not his manger anymore, but what is he up to?
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OMG! I'm pleased but surprised!!!!! eek
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Reply #22 posted 05/20/09 7:05pm

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I know I didn't watch the show at all but I checked the ending: Kris won. smile
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OMG! I'm pleased but suprised!!!!! eek

I knew America was not ready for a gay idol.
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Reply #24 posted 05/20/09 7:08pm

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matthewgrant said:

OMG! I'm pleased but suprised!!!!! eek

I knew America was not ready for a gay idol.


I don't know if America is ready for any idol. Most of the "idols" careers have done crud and it's usually the second, third or fourth place finisher that do better than the winner.
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Reply #25 posted 05/20/09 7:10pm

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daPrettyman said:

matthewgrant said:

OMG! I'm pleased but surprised!!!!! eek

I knew America was not ready for a gay idol.


nod even though the show it'self was pushing for Adam, the people spoke on this one.

Adam will have a career regardless but wow. i'm really shocked lol
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Reply #26 posted 05/20/09 7:13pm

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matthewgrant said:

daPrettyman said:


I knew America was not ready for a gay idol.


nod even though the show it'self was pushing for Adam, the people spoke on this one.

Adam will have a career regardless but wow. i'm really shocked lol


You're shocked Kris won or that Adam made it that far? lol
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Timmy84 said:

matthewgrant said:



nod even though the show it'self was pushing for Adam, the people spoke on this one.

Adam will have a career regardless but wow. i'm really shocked lol


You're shocked Kris won or that Adam made it that far? lol


I love that Kris won. i think he's really talented. I'm shocked because I thought more people liked Adam.
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Reply #28 posted 05/20/09 7:21pm

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You're shocked Kris won or that Adam made it that far? lol


I love that Kris won. i think he's really talented. I'm shocked because I thought more people liked Adam.


I think they do, but I feel they may push him in the way they pushed Clay.
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Kris didn't deserve it imo. I was kinda shocked. Totally thought Adam was the better singer and entertainer. Even Danny or Allison would have been better. At least those two could really sing, but I guess America spoke and that's who they chose as their winner. It is what it is.

Adam is still my fave one though! I am looking forward to whatever he comes out with. I think he has a lot of potential.
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