Timmy84 said: blackguitaristz said: George's thang, the concepts behind it, to young black people (teens to 30's) were very much like a cult following. I can't speak on anywhere else in the country BUT in So. Cal, this was VERY much the case. Again I gotta say from when I was 8 years old on up, my older cousin and his friends, who were in their teens, all bumped the fuck out of Westbound Funkadelic as much as Warner Brothers Funkadelic. Whenever I would go to my older cousin's house, who lived in a certain area of L.A. which was Crip area, this shit got as much play as Parliament and Bootsy did. Why, because it was ALL Funk Mob. People today and in the past years crack me up because many STILL DON'T associate early Funkadelic as black music. Like if you listened to it, you are some "special" brutha that nobody understands or can relate to. Maybe that's an experience for some in the 90's and shit. But again, out here in So. Cali, in the 70's, that was so NOT the case. Bruthas and Sistas PLAYED the funk Mob out here. George's thang...P-Funk, out here was as black as you can get. The hardest bruthas blasted this shit out of their garages while they were pumpin iron. House parties were NOT a jam if you didn't have Funkadelic. Understand me, NOT just Parliament, BUT Alice In My Fantasies Funkadelic. That's interesting. Guess it differs from where you rep, I guess. I can believe blacks in California GOT DOWN to Funkadelic... then again you're right that we definitely were more diverse back then than we are now. [Edited 5/17/09 1:37am] Out here in So Cali in the 70's, it wasn't SHIT to see O.G.bruthas who had blue and pink rollers in their hair mobin' in their Impalas, BLASTING "Super Stupid" or Hardcore Jollies version of "Cosmic Slop". Out here, it was all the same as hearing "I'D Rather Be With You" or "Flashlight". It was a certain mindset definately and George's thang tapped into it out here big time. It was a certain sensibilty that was attached to Funkadelic with that age demographic that I mentioned earlier that existed out here in the 70's. It carried over into the early 80's, 80-83, as well with Zapp and Roger, Prince, Cameo, etc. Those artists represented a freedom, a wildness,...not just in their image. But in their SOUND. And acts that had that freedom and wildness attached to them ALL exploited rock in their music. That was their association. Early Cameo 77-82, 81-82 Prince and The Time, Zapp & Roger, that was ALL carry over from early to late 70's Funkadelic. And all of that was what I call and what was called out here at that time was "O.G." music. Westbound Funkadelic was VERY street. And VERY black. To it's core, that's what it was and IS. Crips, bloods and others, THAT'S what they played. It was common as hell to see a George Washington hair wearing looking motherfucker who just took his rollers out of his hair and didn't even bother to comb that shit out, spelling letters in his steps mobin'to "Shit Goddamn, Get Off Your Ass and Jam". [Edited 5/17/09 2:25am] [Edited 5/17/09 2:26am] SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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You go to St. Louis all the brothas and sistas from back in the day know the older Funkadelic stuff. Go see P-Funk in St. Louis and they like the Funkadelic as much as Parliament. | |
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Thumparello said: You go to St. Louis all the brothas and sistas from back in the day know the older Funkadelic stuff. Go see P-Funk in St. Louis and they like the Funkadelic as much as Parliament.
----- From speaking to old heads in the D.C area Funkadelic was very popular in D.C. Apparently, our one a.m. rnb station (WOL) at the time played Funkadelic continuously. To this day George has a huge following in D.C. | |
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I kind of figured the older people back in the day looved Funkadelic. It seems to only get credit by rockers now and days. Its a shame that black people dont embrace the sound today...but there is nothing that can be done about that. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: I kind of figured the older people back in the day looved Funkadelic. It seems to only get credit by rockers now and days. Its a shame that black people dont embrace the sound today...but there is nothing that can be done about that.
There are alot of great spinoff acts that are very Funkadelic sounding. Check out Ruth Copeland, Eddie Hazel and Bernie Worrell's All The Woo In the World. They did alot of spinoff projects that are very interesting if you can find them. The Brides of Funkenstein and Parlet lps are very good too. | |
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paisleypark4 said: I kind of figured the older people back in the day looved Funkadelic. It seems to only get credit by rockers now and days. Its a shame that black people dont embrace the sound today...but there is nothing that can be done about that.
Well as I pointed out, it wasn't just the older people back in the 70's who loved Funkadelic. But teenagers and folks in their 20's were digging them something supreme. Like I also stated, I was all but 8 years old and I was already loving them. And that's not on point about only rockers digging Funkadelic. From N.W.A, Dre and Ice Cube solo joints, Too Short, Digital Underground and Mos Def all have shown love for Funkadelic. Dre was sporting a Funkadelic t-shirt in the video "Dre Day".. [Edited 5/19/09 0:38am] SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: paisleypark4 said: I kind of figured the older people back in the day looved Funkadelic. It seems to only get credit by rockers now and days. Its a shame that black people dont embrace the sound today...but there is nothing that can be done about that.
Well as I pointed out, it wasn't just the older people back in the 70's who loved Funkadelic. But teenagers and folks in their 20's were digging them something supreme. Like I also stated, I was all but 8 years old and I was already loving them. And that's not on point about only rockers digging Funkadelic. From N.W.A, Dre and Ice Cube solo joints, Too Short, Digital Underground and Mos Def all have shown love for Funkadelic. Dre was sporting a Funkadelic t-shirt in the video "Dre Day".. [Edited 5/19/09 0:38am] I was just thinking that. They really made GC popular again with all their sampling. There are alot of great spinoff acts that are very Funkadelic sounding. Check out Ruth Copeland, Eddie Hazel and Bernie Worrell's All The Woo In the World. They did alot of spinoff projects that are very interesting if you can find them. The Brides of Funkenstein and Parlet lps are very good too. I did listen tot he Brides and Parlet's albums....may have to give them another chance because I wasnt feeling them that much. I do have Junie Morrison and Sweat band, however until I GET Funkadelic...I dint think I can move on just yet. I still FORGOT what most of Hardcore Jollies and Standing On The verge sound like. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said:[quote]blackguitaristz said:[quote]
I was just thinking that. They really made GC popular again with all their sampling. There are alot of great spinoff acts that are very Funkadelic sounding. Check out Ruth Copeland, Eddie Hazel and Bernie Worrell's All The Woo In the World. They did alot of spinoff projects that are very interesting if you can find them. The Brides of Funkenstein and Parlet lps are very good too. I did listen tot he Brides and Parlet's albums....may have to give them another chance because I wasnt feeling them that much. I do have Junie Morrison and Sweat band, however until I GET Funkadelic...I dint think I can move on just yet. I still FORGOT what most of Hardcore Jollies and Standing On The verge sound like.[/quote] Great!! I could go on and on about Funkadelic and what they mean to me but that's for another post. Others have summed it up just fine. You know who you are. I didn't buy the actual albums, little too young, but do remember having some 45's. Since then, I have everything I can get my hands on and still listen quite regularily. Last weekend as matter of fact. I never ever get tired of P-Funk and there's always somthing to discover/rediscover. We should start a post on all the P-Funk related projects. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said:[quote]paisleypark4 said:[quote] blackguitaristz said: I was just thinking that. They really made GC popular again with all their sampling. There are alot of great spinoff acts that are very Funkadelic sounding. Check out Ruth Copeland, Eddie Hazel and Bernie Worrell's All The Woo In the World. They did alot of spinoff projects that are very interesting if you can find them. The Brides of Funkenstein and Parlet lps are very good too. I did listen tot he Brides and Parlet's albums....may have to give them another chance because I wasnt feeling them that much. I do have Junie Morrison and Sweat band, however until I GET Funkadelic...I dint think I can move on just yet. I still FORGOT what most of Hardcore Jollies and Standing On The verge sound like.[/quote] Great!! I could go on and on about Funkadelic and what they mean to me but that's for another post. Others have summed it up just fine. You know who you are. I didn't buy the actual albums, little too young, but do remember having some 45's. Since then, I have everything I can get my hands on and still listen quite regularily. Last weekend as matter of fact. I never ever get tired of P-Funk and there's always somthing to discover/rediscover. We should start a post on all the P-Funk related projects. There is so much depth to their music. Its going to take me years and years to really GET everything. The different versions dont hardly sound any different too much to me since I dont really KNOW by heart all the songs. Its so good to know there is a big audience online or else i would never know who to turn to. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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Funk is for sharing.
You should check out all the different versions of Heart Trouble. They are all pretty different and unique. It will take you all the way back to The Parliaments right up to George C. & His Gansters of Love. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: Funk is for sharing.
You should check out all the different versions of Heart Trouble. They are all pretty different and unique. It will take you all the way back to The Parliaments right up to George C. & His Gansters of Love. See...I got that album too but other than My Automobile and Oh Lord, Why Lord I cant rememebr the other tunes. Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: Bfunkthe1 said: Funk is for sharing.
You should check out all the different versions of Heart Trouble. They are all pretty different and unique. It will take you all the way back to The Parliaments right up to George C. & His Gansters of Love. See...I got that album too but other than My Automobile and Oh Lord, Why Lord I cant rememebr the other tunes. You mean Osmium? If so , Heart Trouble is not on there. Matter of fact, Osmium is credited to Parliament not THE Parliaments. Legal issues. Heart Trouble is one of The Parliaments early recorded singles. I have it on some early Parliaments compilation. Btw, I love Osmium or First Thangs as it was repackaged and sold with some very cool extra tracks. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: paisleypark4 said: See...I got that album too but other than My Automobile and Oh Lord, Why Lord I cant rememebr the other tunes. You mean Osmium? If so , Heart Trouble is not on there. Matter of fact, Osmium is credited to Parliament not THE Parliaments. Legal issues. Heart Trouble is one of The Parliaments early recorded singles. I have it on some early Parliaments compilation. Btw, I love Osmium or First Thangs as it was repackaged and sold with some very cool extra tracks. yeah ok...I dont remember that track as I havent heard it. I do have Osmium / First Thangs with extra tracks on it Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: Bfunkthe1 said: You mean Osmium? If so , Heart Trouble is not on there. Matter of fact, Osmium is credited to Parliament not THE Parliaments. Legal issues. Heart Trouble is one of The Parliaments early recorded singles. I have it on some early Parliaments compilation. Btw, I love Osmium or First Thangs as it was repackaged and sold with some very cool extra tracks. yeah ok...I dont remember that track as I havent heard it. I do have Osmium / First Thangs with extra tracks on it Heart Trouble then morphed into You Can't Miss What You Can't Measure from Funkadelic's Cosmic Slop album. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: paisleypark4 said: yeah ok...I dont remember that track as I havent heard it. I do have Osmium / First Thangs with extra tracks on it Heart Trouble then morphed into You Can't Miss What You Can't Measure from Funkadelic's Cosmic Slop album. Speaking of CS The LP, I actually bought that at a used record store so I could hang the cover on my wall. Also had One Nation Lp. For the life of me I can't find either. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: paisleypark4 said: yeah ok...I dont remember that track as I havent heard it. I do have Osmium / First Thangs with extra tracks on it Heart Trouble then morphed into You Can't Miss What You Can't Measure from Funkadelic's Cosmic Slop album. Sittin there with a broken heart I love that tune. Aaah...I think conversations about the History can go on and on Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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paisleypark4 said: Bfunkthe1 said: Heart Trouble then morphed into You Can't Miss What You Can't Measure from Funkadelic's Cosmic Slop album. Sittin there with a broken heart I love that tune. Aaah...I think conversations about the History can go on and on Yes. As it should. Each one teach one on the "One". Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Bfunkthe1 said: paisleypark4 said: yeah ok...I dont remember that track as I havent heard it. I do have Osmium / First Thangs with extra tracks on it Heart Trouble then morphed into You Can't Miss What You Can't Measure from Funkadelic's Cosmic Slop album. I think I like the Heart Trouble from the compilation Toys the best. | |
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Meloh9 said: Bfunkthe1 said: Heart Trouble then morphed into You Can't Miss What You Can't Measure from Funkadelic's Cosmic Slop album. I think I like the Heart Trouble from the compilation Toys the best. And there's that version. I've been listening to Toys alot lately. Great stuff. GC posted a blog on his myspace back in march about a new Funkadelic release loaded with extras. Don't know if that meant new "old" material or new material with current lineup. Hmmm. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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great post!!!
I'm only 27, so I can't give a detailed description of the hood back in the 70's in Louisiana... BUT... all of my older uncles and male cousins.. ALL dug P-Funk my very introduction to P-Funk were two Parliament albums the Gloryhallastoopid & Funkentelechy vs. TPS ones I begged my aunt's husband to let me have them and he did I also remember digging through his record collection & seeing these in particular: (I also remember staring at the lady's ass for minutes at a time LOL) (this one spooked the hell out of me, indeed ) my aunt never let me play those particular ones... my uncle had Led Zeppelin & Cream albums in his crate as well maybe about 3 years ago was when I started to collect ALL THINGS P-FUNK and I' ve got a good percentage of the released stuff in my library I happen to be more fond of the WB Funkadelic stuff but I can appreciate & respect the Westbound stuff as well my best friend's father loves P-Funk as well one of his bdays I got him the first three Boosty's Rubber Band projects on CD for father's day I'm thinking about uploading all of my P-Funk to his iPhone [Edited 5/21/09 13:07pm] because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." | |
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My mother had most of the Funkadelic joints, but until reading this thread, I only had a hazy idea of what the diff was between Parliment and Funkadelic. I just took it all as one big Clinton thang, an overall sound.
When I was a very small kid, like 3-7 years or so, I'd study those covers. They scared the shit out of me, but also left a huge impression. In the Reagan era, the "America Eats Its Young" cover needed no explanation. That cover art was so wild and educational. Imagine if someone tried that today? The impact wouldn't be quite so strong on tiny cd things as it was on gatefold covers, but the outrage would be huge. | |
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brooksie said: My mother had most of the Funkadelic joints, but until reading this thread, I only had a hazy idea of what the diff was between Parliment and Funkadelic. I just took it all as one big Clinton thang, an overall sound.
When I was a very small kid, like 3-7 years or so, I'd study those covers. They scared the shit out of me, but also left a huge impression. In the Reagan era, the "America Eats Its Young" cover needed no explanation. That cover art was so wild and educational. Imagine if someone tried that today? The impact wouldn't be quite so strong on tiny cd things as it was on gatefold covers, but the outrage would be huge. Their covers scared the shit outta me too. I lumped everything into the Clinton thing as well. Some of it was pretty good and some of it you had to be high on something to listen to it. Most people was getting high at parties listening to this type of music back then. The message you are about to hear are not meant for transmission. Should ONLY be accessed in the privacy of your mind. Words are so intense so if you dare to listen.Take off your clothes and meet me between the lines. | |
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brooksie said: When I was a very small kid, like 3-7 years or so, I'd study those covers. They scared the shit out of me, but also left a huge impression. In the Reagan era, the "America Eats Its Young" cover needed no explanation. That cover art was so wild and educational. Imagine if someone tried that today? The impact wouldn't be quite so strong on tiny cd things as it was on gatefold covers, but the outrage would be huge. Yeah, the Funkadelic album covers scared the shit out of all kids! Maggot Brain, Cosmic Slop and especially Let's Take It To The Stage. Let's Take It album cover did it for me when I was little. Linda Blair's body with the album cover scrawled all on her stomach with the devil grinning and shit! Yeah, that was NO joke! But I also dug the artwork to Tales of Kidd (with Kidd dressed up like Gene Simmons of KISS) and Hardcore Jollies. The inside of the gatefold artwork was just as good if not better than the covers. I LOVE Pedro Bell's artwork man. SynthiaRose said "I'm in love with blackguitaristz. Especially when he talks about Hendrix."
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blackguitaristz said: brooksie said: When I was a very small kid, like 3-7 years or so, I'd study those covers. They scared the shit out of me, but also left a huge impression. In the Reagan era, the "America Eats Its Young" cover needed no explanation. That cover art was so wild and educational. Imagine if someone tried that today? The impact wouldn't be quite so strong on tiny cd things as it was on gatefold covers, but the outrage would be huge. Yeah, the Funkadelic album covers scared the shit out of all kids! Maggot Brain, Cosmic Slop and especially Let's Take It To The Stage. Let's Take It album cover did it for me when I was little. Linda Blair's body with the album cover scrawled all on her stomach with the devil grinning and shit! Yeah, that was NO joke! But I also dug the artwork to Tales of Kidd (with Kidd dressed up like Gene Simmons of KISS) and Hardcore Jollies. The inside of the gatefold artwork was just as good if not better than the covers. I LOVE Pedro Bell's artwork man. I will never forget when I was a real little kid. My aunt took me over this dudes house that had naked women all over the walls and the astrology sex position poster ( we all know the one ) he had all these funkadelic albums and I was looking at the covers like WTF??? now I can't live without the imagery, it's one of my favorite things about parliament funkadelic, the art work. I love love love it. Pedro is the man! | |
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according to the liner notes by Dean Rudland from the reissue of Free Your Mind
"Back at home in the United States things were different, unlike the UK there was a substantial and ever - growing audience for the sort of black rock thing that Funkadelic were doing as was proved by their continued success in the R&B charts with the release of the second album" Released in July 1970, "Free Your Mind.." spent ten weeks on the Billboard R&B charts and reached #11. | |
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During the late 1970s, I was strictly buying disco and in the early 1980s, I was strictly buying the current funk of the day. I never backtracked and bought anything old that I didn't already have until shit hop took over in the 1990s and nothing current was listenable let alone suitable for buying. Andy is a four letter word. | |
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