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Reply #30 posted 04/30/09 12:32pm

Empress

diamondpearl1 said:

The midget/gremlin that appears on the front of Rolling Stone Magazine is NOT rock & roll. He's not hip-hop. He's merely a "rapper" to those brainwashed by the top 10, 20, and 40 on the radio and BET.


thank you for speaking the truth!!

At least the next release of RS magazine has a real musician on the cover. One with talent that no one else has matched in a very long time.
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Reply #31 posted 04/30/09 12:57pm

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No offend to Lil'Wayne, but I'm not convince that he can rock out like Public Enemy:

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Reply #32 posted 04/30/09 1:14pm

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TonyVanDam said:

No offend to Lil'Wayne, but I'm not convince that he can rock out like Public Enemy:



Nope, lol.
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Reply #33 posted 04/30/09 11:55pm

Mara

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Not really related but.....


Lately I've been listening to ALOT of Jimi Hendrix. I know I'm late to the party boxed but he really is brilliant! O my goodness, I haven't even been able to fully digest his music yet, but I just had to mention him for a minute cool


That's awesome. I need to get my hands on some Jimi Hendrix Experience, myself.

BTW, check out "Maggot Brain" by Funkadelic. The guitar solo on that title track is amazing.

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Reply #34 posted 05/01/09 8:20am

angel345

Haven't anybody learned anything from Little Richard?
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Reply #35 posted 05/01/09 8:40am

bellanoche

Have any of you seen the documentary "Electric Purgatory?" It's about black rockers.

perfection is a fallacy of the imagination...
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Reply #36 posted 05/01/09 10:43am

Mara

I would recommend people watch the Afro-Punk documentary, but I actually DIDN'T LIKE it when I saw it at a gallery one time.
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Reply #37 posted 05/01/09 2:55pm

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japanrocks said:

who better than Lil Wayne to introduce rock music to the black community? he is getting more respect than Tupac.....that is how big he is

never thought i would live to see the day when a "thug wearing saggy pants" rapper does a rock album

unfortunately i do not think anyone will buy it, except for white kids

and so then Lil Wayne will debut at #1

watch!
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I HATE HIM..but when i heard Prom Queen, Amazing Love and Hot REvolver..I really give him props. No other rapper is doing this..its brave. It sounds good to me..no matter who it is..SOMEONE is breaking the mold
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Reply #38 posted 05/01/09 3:07pm

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Nice concept of the thread to awaken our creative thoughts. and this following comment is directed to japanrocks: the ONLY way Lil Wayne could even think of getting more respect than Tupac (which he is not-Tupac still holds the Guiness Book of World Records for best selling rapper so get your facts straight), is to stop with his pretentious, stupid attempt at rock. What he is doing is a disgrace to rock and roll. If he wasn't a rapper and tried to make it into rock, he'd be turned down immediately. The only reason he is getting so much publicity as a "rocker" is that his foot is already in the door as a successful rapper, so he can indulge his secret rocker fantasies. His rock stuff sucks big time.
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Reply #39 posted 05/03/09 12:27am

japanrocks

he is also featured on Fall Out Boy's new release

here is an interview and sample

http://www.youtube.com/wa...az60DpxTIo

oh, and the only difference between Wayne and Tupac is that Wayne is alive and is not gonna get caught up in silly games like Pac
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Reply #40 posted 05/03/09 3:05am

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You want Black Rock?? I give you...





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Reply #41 posted 05/03/09 3:23am

TyphoonTip

RenHoek said:

You want Black Rock?? I give you...





headbang


I think Biscuits is one of the few CDs I've had to buy again from over-playing! biggrin

They should have left it at Stain though.

They're last effort was poor to say the least.
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Reply #42 posted 05/03/09 4:25am

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Well placed marketing gimmick by the RS magazine, but all this will do is take the attention away from the real Black rock musicians who have been toiling away for years without proper acknowledgement.

I am all for artist experimentation and if Lil Wayne is indeed cutting a rock album, I applaud his efforts, but it still does not hide the facts that there is a whole generation of listeners who don't realize that rock is indeed an extension of the Black Community. Hip hop does not reflect the black experience nor is it a clear indicator of all of our listening tastes.

If Lil Wayne foray can interest some young folks into wanting to dig deeper into the past of our neglected art, then good for him, but a lot of people need to remember the past to understand where he is going musically
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Reply #43 posted 05/03/09 4:29am

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Reply #44 posted 05/03/09 6:16am

PFunkjazz

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Black rock performances within past two years.












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Reply #45 posted 05/03/09 8:09am

angel345

It's funny how back in the day when Ike Turner was keeping Tina in the go-go type of music, she wanted to go in the rock direction all along.
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Reply #46 posted 05/03/09 10:10am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

Timmy84 said:

I agree with what the guy is saying. We gotta reclaim rock for real, it's music for everybody but black folks who love current R&B/rap think rock is "white" when it's never been "white".

It's weird that music has to be about color.
Why can't rock music, R&B, rap, any kind of music, just be for different kinds of people?
I guess it's a bigger issue in the States than here in Finland, though.
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I think you misunderstood what timmy said, he didn't said that rock and other genres are only for black people,music is for everyone but what he he said that the creators of those kind of genres are black which is true, they are responsible for creating different genres of music...Fact.

Music in general is for everyone, not for certain, race, culture, or color but the creators of those genres must be given credit when credit is due.
MICHAEL JACKSON
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Reply #47 posted 05/03/09 10:26am

2elijah

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Well placed marketing gimmick by the RS magazine, but all this will do is take the attention away from the real Black rock musicians who have been toiling away for years without proper acknowledgement.

I am all for artist experimentation and if Lil Wayne is indeed cutting a rock album, I applaud his efforts, but it still does not hide the facts that there is a whole generation of listeners who don't realize that rock is indeed an extension of the Black Community.
Hip hop does not reflect the black experience nor is it a clear indicator of all of our listening tastes.

If Lil Wayne foray can interest some young folks into wanting to dig deeper into the past of our neglected art, then good for him, but a lot of people need to remember the past to understand where he is going musically


Absolutely. I grew up with black musicians who played that type of music. I love the fusion of blues/rock together. If you look back at blues guitar artists from back in the 50s and before that, you can hear the "rock" in their music. There's a host of black artists who play rock music, progressive rock, etc.,, but don't get attention or are overlooked by the music industry. I just looked at that youtube of Danielia Cotton, and absolutely loved it, she has a blues-rock fusion sound. Even artists like Bette-Mabry Davis never got the attention she deserved during her time.
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Reply #48 posted 05/03/09 11:41am

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2elijah said:

I just looked at that youtube of Danielia Cotton, and absolutely loved it, she has a blues-rock fusion sound.



I'm tryin' to break thru to you folks on the Org, but I'm runnin' out of patience. wink

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Reply #49 posted 05/06/09 1:10am

japanrocks

is this considered Black Rock too? or is this not good enough



music knows no color
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Reply #50 posted 05/06/09 1:42am

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UGH! He looks like something you don't feed at night and must sleep outside
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Reply #51 posted 05/06/09 1:50am

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seeingvoices12 said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


It's weird that music has to be about color.
Why can't rock music, R&B, rap, any kind of music, just be for different kinds of people?
I guess it's a bigger issue in the States than here in Finland, though.
[Edited 4/30/09 0:49am]


I think you misunderstood what timmy said, he didn't said that rock and other genres are only for black people,music is for everyone but what he he said that the creators of those kind of genres are black which is true, they are responsible for creating different genres of music...Fact.


That's not entirely true either. Other races played a huge part in the growth and development of the genre. It's just not as black and white as everybody likes to claim (no pun intended).
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Reply #52 posted 05/06/09 2:28am

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seeingvoices12 said:

FuNkeNsteiN said:


It's weird that music has to be about color.
Why can't rock music, R&B, rap, any kind of music, just be for different kinds of people?
I guess it's a bigger issue in the States than here in Finland, though.
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I think you misunderstood what timmy said, he didn't said that rock and other genres are only for black people,music is for everyone but what he he said that the creators of those kind of genres are black which is true, they are responsible for creating different genres of music...Fact.

Music in general is for everyone, not for certain, race, culture, or color but the creators of those genres must be given credit when credit is due.

My response was not really directed at Timmy, even though I quoted him. I was just chiming in with my views on the matter smile
It is not known why FuNkeNsteiN capitalizes his name as he does, though some speculate sunlight deficiency caused by the most pimpified white guy afro in Nordic history.

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Reply #53 posted 05/06/09 5:12am

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WildStyle said:

seeingvoices12 said:



I think you misunderstood what timmy said, he didn't said that rock and other genres are only for black people,music is for everyone but what he he said that the creators of those kind of genres are black which is true, they are responsible for creating different genres of music...Fact.


That's not entirely true either. Other races played a huge part in the growth and development of the genre. It's just not as black and white as everybody likes to claim (no pun intended).


Im not black, and Im not white...so I try to be objective as possible but you said it yourself, other races played a part in the growth and development of a certain genre but Im talking about the roots, the creators of those genres. wink

At the end we are all the same....
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Reply #54 posted 05/06/09 8:30am

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japanrocks said:

is this considered Black Rock too? or is this not good enough


RATM and Tom Morello are definitely black rock.

All-black bands or black lead artists, multi-racial bands and bi-racial lead artists all qualify. Heck as far as I'm concerned even cool white guys like Les Claypool and Warren Haynes are black rockers. cool
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Reply #55 posted 05/06/09 10:05am

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PFunkjazz said:

Heck as far as I'm concerned even cool white guys like Les Claypool and Warren Haynes are black rockers. cool
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I guess that makes Justin Timberlake and Robin Thicke black R&B artist, then?
Sorry, this is where we part ways.
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Reply #56 posted 05/06/09 10:06am

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FuNkeNsteiN said:

Why can't rock music, R&B, rap, any kind of music, just be for different kinds of people?
I guess it's a bigger issue in the States than here in Finland, though.
[Edited 4/30/09 0:49am]


For real.

Classical music originated from Europe, just because I have white skin doesn't mean it's 'mine' or that I had anything to do with it.

Associating music to skin colour just keeps people trapped in the same old game.
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Reply #57 posted 05/06/09 2:54pm

PFunkjazz

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BlaqueKnight said:

PFunkjazz said:

Heck as far as I'm concerned even cool white guys like Les Claypool and Warren Haynes are black rockers. cool
[Edited 5/6/09 8:35am]

I guess that makes Justin Timberlake and Robin Thicke black R&B artist, then?
Sorry, this is where we part ways.


Well do you consider Justin or Robin "cool"? biggrin
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